Wow. Quite the turnaround there. Now only the switch is getting a physical release in the west. A shame about the performance though
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SNK HEROINES ~Tag Team Frenzy~Announced Coming to Switch/PS4, Summer 2018
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Had no idea. It wouldn't have stopped me from trying it either. I don't know about Abstraction Games- do they have a bad rep?
No, there is a physical American release...with a catch:
There is no official reason but when the NISA president ran his mouth a while ago he said that SNK and Nintendo came to him wanting to make this a Switch exclusive. For some reason they couldn't make it full but they did make the NA physical a full switch exclusive.
They worked on the Steam version of KOF XIV. They're also porting Ark to Switch.
Well, that's disappointing, thanks for the impressions!
Probably too late for me to change my mind, but hoped for at least smooth 30 fps :/
That's cool! I mean that sounds cool...
I hate when people block too much in fighting games. :D
There are always ways to counter people blocking constantly in fighting games.
When is the embargo up? Have there been any thoughtful positive hands on impressions of the game?
I'm a little scared.
I'm a little scared.
Thanks! I'll grab a thoughtful breakfast before I decide to read them. I've read quite a bit of twitter hot takes and hope the actual reviews aren't in the same vein.
I see positive things about the PS4 version. Just asked someone on my friends list, currently playing it, how it ran and was told it's a stable 60 FPS on there.
Are there hot takes on framerate issues, though? Or is it just people just ragging on the game in general? I've decided I'm not going to rate how the game itself is until I get to try it on PS4. I have no doubt that the Switch version is that much inferior to it, performance-wise, at this point.
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This should be a good game to kinda put seasoned pros and newer players into something of the same pool for... at least a small amount of time! I'm cool with the idea of a fighter simplifying the growingly more obtuse methods around stuff. I wouldn't want this in everything, sure, but it's worth trying every once in a while! The game actually seems built around it's decisions, rather than being a janky beginners mode tossed into a game that can't support it.
And tossing items and psycological torture at your opponents with items should help with the blocking problem too!
There's been a bit of a loketest in Japan, WNF with Hellpockets has had the game with public play for hours on stream a few times, and many convention-goers who have played it come away with a strong desire to play more.
The Switch Version is the only one to really be scared for... and if Abstraction Games dedication to patching the steam XIV is any indication, they should be willing to iron out many of the early issues.
SNK themselves has put out multiple near-30 min webisodes where the voice actor & actresses have played against each other and shown off features, too. They've already announced post-release support, and seem to be treating the game more seriously than many would have anticipated.
All of that gives at least SOME confidence.
I'm fine with the sacrifice in a game in which response time, reactions, and timing don't matter. I am playing Battle Chasers on switch even though I own it on pc for this reason.
To each their own, of course, but I would never consider this acceptable, especially when you have something like DBFZ showing that these concessions aren't necessary.
You can call in partner assist?
A guy was using Leona and called Terry to assist after a regular throw. Leona did the throw and before the opponent hit the ground an arcade machine popped out of the ground and launched the opponent again (while they were still in the getting thrown animation).
EDIT: Okay, I think this tag system will be deeper than people are expecting. There seems to be quite a bit to it.
For example you can cancel any move/special into tag so you can do Terry's power wave and cancel it into tag.
The incoming character pops in instantly and can run right behind his power wave at the opponent from across the screen.
A guy was using Leona and called Terry to assist after a regular throw. Leona did the throw and before the opponent hit the ground an arcade machine popped out of the ground and launched the opponent again (while they were still in the getting thrown animation).
EDIT: Okay, I think this tag system will be deeper than people are expecting. There seems to be quite a bit to it.
For example you can cancel any move/special into tag so you can do Terry's power wave and cancel it into tag.
The incoming character pops in instantly and can run right behind his power wave at the opponent from across the screen.
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It will be nice to watch it before the Direct. Tomorrow is going to be a very good day.
Back from the dead since i could go through the game.
The undocked mode is not that terrible, i feared it would dip deep, but nha it remained playable and enjoyable for me and i didn't regret my purchase, docked mode could have been 60 locked :/
The game is a ton of fun, but it's a very simple/accessible one, i cannot wait to get enough "money" to put on the proper costumes... at least the originals are in there and not behind DLC paywall.
I wish it were still summer, it would have been a blast to play with my niece :'(
The undocked mode is not that terrible, i feared it would dip deep, but nha it remained playable and enjoyable for me and i didn't regret my purchase, docked mode could have been 60 locked :/
The game is a ton of fun, but it's a very simple/accessible one, i cannot wait to get enough "money" to put on the proper costumes... at least the originals are in there and not behind DLC paywall.
I wish it were still summer, it would have been a blast to play with my niece :'(
The studio behind both the Switch and PC port is the same one that did KOF14, so it's entirely plausible that SNK picked/suggested them for the job.
Who knows how much money went into the ports, or how big a pain in the ass it is to work with that engine. One would think a game as graphically unimpressive as this one would run just fine on Switch at any resolution.
Softbody physics must be taxing too much the Tegra ;) (i kid of course)
I hope performance will get better.
Jiggle Physics is very important indeed. lyte edge mentioned that he downloaded a patch and after the patch it's performance increased pretty well.
Nintendo Life Review:
http://www.nintendolife.com/reviews/nintendo-switch/snk_heroines_tag_team_frenzy
http://www.nintendolife.com/reviews/nintendo-switch/snk_heroines_tag_team_frenzy
It was out on the japanese eshop ahead of time, and thanks to the switch being (at laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast) region free, i bit there :)
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Seems like a fair review, specially considering the shortcomings of the switch version.
This game screams "7/10" and that's ok
Well my copy shipped this morning:P We'll see how things go one way or another :P
At least if they have/add stick support that will encourage me to use the TV more. That and earning the OG outfits will probably keep me busy.
At least if they have/add stick support that will encourage me to use the TV more. That and earning the OG outfits will probably keep me busy.
Swimming in 7's lol
Performance issues. The framerate appears to be 30 FPS (I'm not 100% sure on this, but it certainly doesn't feel like 60) when docked and in handheld mode, it's not as smooth and feels like it may possibly be uncapped, going between 30-60 FPS. If not, it's just not a stable 30. The PS4 version reportedly has none of these issues and runs at 60 FPS.
The Nintendolife review doesn't mention any of these technical issues and also doesn't mention online (saying it wasn't available), so I think it's kind of unfair to drop a review without having tried that part first.
OK, here's some crappy phone footage. I couldn't do much with the phone in one hand, but it's noticeable even when just jumping. Notice the framerate drop at 0:02 when Athena gets close to Nakoruru and again at 0:08 when she jumps away. These types of drops happen often.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqta4adjgpY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqta4adjgpY
There is, but it just lets you record a few seconds. Might be worth going back to do for a simple combo playback but I think the video of the jumping is enough to show the dips I've been talking about.
Direct-capture footage of handheld play from the Switch. I think it's harder to see frame rate drops with this footage.
https://twitter.com/lyteedge/status/1037740548193312768
Also at this point I guess we should just start posting in the review thread?
https://twitter.com/lyteedge/status/1037740548193312768
Also at this point I guess we should just start posting in the review thread?
It looks good pretty good to me. I don't know if I should wait for a sale to buy it.
Much appreciated. Handheld version looks a little bit rough. Maybe sub-720p but Docked version seems quite nice enough. Drops while performing special moves are a little bit frustrating.
Thanks for that.
Docked seems nice to me. But undocked is indeed really rough, big shame :/
damn i had a hard laugh with Terriet' and Yuri endings xD
Very nice idea for them.
Don't forget that in the artwork section you view them in full screen :P
Very nice idea for them.
Don't forget that in the artwork section you view them in full screen :P
They know how to get to me... Kula ballerina (damn the switch screenshots quality are bad... give me tiff instead of ugly jpeg)
I was already pretty down on this game based on the concept and the tiny roster (despite recycled assets!) but the performance on Switch makes this a hard pass.
Going from KOF XIV to this is a serious downgrade.
So the most important thing for a 2D fighting game. Got it.
Going from KOF XIV to this is a serious downgrade.
So the most important thing for a 2D fighting game. Got it.
PS4 version is going to be the version to get regardless.
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