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Chicken Wing

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Can someone explain please
 

trikster40

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Oct 28, 2017
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Neat! Hope this is a start of a turn around for him and he can get the respect he deserves

I think he's got the respect, just not the job. I'm guessing that dream is over. Hoping this campaign ad will get kids and athletes to realize it's more than just about a paycheck and it's not worth gaining everything if you have to compromise your principles.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Nike signed Kaepernick to an endorsement deal back in 2011.





The key being "Nike sat on Kaepernick for 2 years w/ no idea what to do with him." They went as far as removing him from marketing material and didn't have a plan for what they were going to do with him. And the fact that other companies (Adidas, and Puma in particular) expressed interest in him speaks to businesses realizing the potential of his image and marketing potential.

At the same time, those businesses knocking on KAepernick's door, put pressure on Nike to choose whether to retain him or let him go to another company and potentially make them a lot of money. If Kaepernick had no suitors, you bet damn well that Nike wouldn't have given a shit about Kaepernick and would probably let him become a free agent. All because he wouldn't have the leverage he would have now by having Adidas and Puma knocking on his door.

It's a complete business move that's being masqueraded by the feel-good messaging that Nike's marketing is providing right now, and everyone is getting fooled by it big-time.

Very interesting.

And you're misrepresenting the reaction from people. Obviously Nike isn't doing this out of the goodness of their hearts. It's a calculated move to enter this debate on one side. Either way I'm personally grateful and encouraged to support them. At a minimum I'm talking about them in a neutral or positive way.
 

Slayven

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Oct 25, 2017
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What company was it that said they would sign him in a minute if he was on a team?
 

Merv

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Oct 27, 2017
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I've seen some cut socks and burning sneakers, but nothing that looked decent.. Anybody destroy anything of value? My sister in law is conservative and posting anti-Nike stuff, but has a closet full of Converse. I posted a comment on my timeline, not at her, but trying to elicit a response.

Also seeing a lot of Pat Tillman post's, I just respond with the article about his wife saying "don't do it".

For the people that say he's not playing, because of his ability I post some Chart Party.

 
Oct 26, 2017
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Why you assume we're getting fooled? Of course it's a business move. Can't it be a business move and still feel good to have them stand behind him and put his face out there?

But yes, your point that Nike wouldn't give a shit about kap if he couldn't make them money/provide some benefit is about as true and obvious as you could possibly get. Lol.

It can't, because if the point is that Nike truly cared about standing behind Kaepernick, then they should have stood by him during his original endorsement deal instead of basically putting him in marketing purgatory for two years, and mulling over his extensions. Yes, I'm well aware of Kaepernick's performance in the NFL and how that would warrant a global brand having second thoughts, but they did what other companies and the NFL did, and basically caved when it came to Kaepernick's protests causing controversy.

In fact, Nike had no problems standing behind Tiger Woods during the time that his sex scandals were revealed to the public, AND after his DUI crime. They had no problems keeping Kobe Bryant's endorsement deal intact during the time that he was accused of raping a woman. It's only when Kaepernick stood up for what he believed in, that Nike had second thoughts instead of doing what they did with their marquee guys, and they had far worse image problems than Kaepernick did. The fact that it took Adidas and Puma knocking on the door speaks for itself.

People know that a faceless corporation known for exploiting foreign labor isn't actually woke.

Do they? From talking heads on news media to people ITT, I've seen a lot of praise for Nike while ignoring some of the more problematic context behind this deal as well as how Nike treated Kaepernick in relation to how they treat their other marquee players. In fact, I don't see a lot of people bringing up the hypocrisy of Nike using social justice as a marketing tool when they are responsible for the crap they inflict on poor countries by exploiting their cheap labour.
 

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Oct 27, 2017
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I don't understand what all the butt hurt is about marketing his message. Isn't that the foundation of advertising. Advertise and exploit peoples feels to make them fall in love for product.
 

AkumaNiko

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Oct 28, 2017
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These idiots remind me of otaku who destroy their collections when voice actress of an anime character gets a boyfriend or gets married.

oh i remember back in the day when tales of vesperia announced a "complete" edition with new character and story add on just for playstation and people were cracking their x360 game disks.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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It can't, because if the point is that Nike truly cared about standing behind Kaepernick, then they should have stood by him during his original endorsement deal instead of basically putting him in marketing purgatory for two years, and mulling over his extensions. Yes, I'm well aware of Kaepernick's performance in the NFL and how that would warrant a global brand having second thoughts, but they did what other companies and the NFL did, and basically caved when it came to Kaepernick's protests causing controversy.

In fact, Nike had no problems standing behind Tiger Woods during the time that his sex scandals were revealed to the public, AND after his DUI crime. They had no problems keeping Kobe Bryant's endorsement deal intact during the time that he was accused of raping a woman. It's only when Kaepernick stood up for what he believed in, that Nike had second thoughts instead of doing what they did with their marquee guys, and they had far worse image problems than Kaepernick did. The fact that it took Adidas and Puma knocking on the door speaks for itself.



Do they? From talking heads on news media to people ITT, I've seen a lot of praise for Nike while ignoring some of the more problematic context behind this deal as well as how Nike treated Kaepernick in relation to how they treat their other marquee players. In fact, I don't see a lot of people bringing up the hypocrisy of Nike using social justice as a marketing tool when they are responsible for the crap they inflict on poor countries by exploiting their cheap labour.

They don't truly care about kap. Or tiger or kobe. They care about making money. I like that they're giving money and notoriety to someone who was blacklisted for standing up (so to speak) for an important cause.

And yes, it can. It feels good to me. Feels good to a lot of people it seems.

EDIT: To sum it up, would I rather kap be blacklisted by NFL, not utilized/picked up by nike and not have his face publicized, or would I prefer he be blacklisted by the NFL but be paid by nike, kept in the public eye, and given an extended platform to share his message.

Seems easy to me.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I saw one of my coworkers post the Pat Tillman version of the Nike ad.

I think I need to go back and make my FB for close friends only. I don't think I want to know the politics of anyone that I work with.
 

JeffG

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Oct 27, 2017
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They don't truly care about kap. Or tiger or kobe. They care about making money. I like that they're giving money and notoriety to someone who was blacklisted for standing up (so to speak) for an important cause.

And yes, it can. It feels good to me. Feels good to a lot of people it seems.

EDIT: To sum it up, would I rather kap be blacklisted by NFL, not utilized/picked up by nike and not have his face publicized, or would I prefer he be blacklisted by the NFL but be paid by nike, kept in the public eye, and given an extended platform to share his message.

Seems easy to me.
The Young Turks have an opinion on it
 

Randam

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Oct 27, 2017
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They don't truly care about kap. Or tiger or kobe. They care about making money. I like that they're giving money and notoriety to someone who was blacklisted for standing up (so to speak) for an important cause.

And yes, it can. It feels good to me. Feels good to a lot of people it seems.

EDIT: To sum it up, would I rather kap be blacklisted by NFL, not utilized/picked up by nike and not have his face publicized, or would I prefer he be blacklisted by the NFL but be paid by nike, kept in the public eye, and given an extended platform to share his message.

Seems easy to me.
Yeah.
Maybe Nike's intentions are the most truest, but the reaction sure are worth it
 

Maven

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Oct 27, 2017
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On one hand this is making conservatives furious and I love it, on the other hand this is deeply cynical and phony. The bigwigs at Nike aren't woke, they just want our money, and to mix a serious movement about police brutality with a corporate ploy to sell more sneakers makes me uneasy.

That's all this is. To make money

After discovering boost and ultraboost from Adidas I've switched. I have a couple pairs of Nike's on their last legs I am not going to replace them with another Nike product

Adidas is where it's at
 
Oct 26, 2017
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They don't truly care about kap. Or tiger or kobe. They care about making money. I like that they're giving money and notoriety to someone who was blacklisted for standing up (so to speak) for an important cause.

And yes, it can. It feels good to me. Feels good to a lot of people it seems.

EDIT: To sum it up, would I rather kap be blacklisted by NFL, not utilized/picked up by nike and not have his face publicized, or would I prefer he be blacklisted by the NFL but be paid by nike, kept in the public eye, and given an extended platform to share his message.

Seems easy to me.

They don't truly care and yet, two athletes with more negative imaging and marketing implications got treated better endorsements-wise than an athlete whose only message comprised of bringing attention to police brutality, and the hypocrisy of calling America a free country when black people continue to be gunned down by the police at a disproportionate rate, on top of exercising such force rather disproportionately.

Even if the point is that Nike is giving money, more notoriety and a platform for Kaepernick, that platform has long since been twisted and turned into a completely different beast. The same message he's shared at the NFL level won't be shared, especially if Nike is going to control what he says and how he gets to present it. It'll turn into exactly what you see, which is focusing on believing in yourself even if it means alienation and sacrifice.

That said, it doesn't sit right with me that a corporation is using Kaepernick and his notoriety as a means to sell more product.
 

freakybj

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Oct 26, 2017
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Van Lathan (the guy that confronted Kanye West on TMZ for his stupid slavery comment) has Jason Whitlock on his podcast this week to take him on about his messed up views on black athletes like Kaepernick and Lebron James doing activism.

https://soundcloud.com/redpillpodcast/029-whats-with-whitlock-w-jason-whitlock

Edit: If you have time I really encourage a listen. Things get heated about 50 min in when Van confronts Whitlock about Don Imus and how Whitlock's career rose when he criticized black hip hop instead of confronting Don Imus' racism when he made that nappy headed hoes comment.
 
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Oct 26, 2017
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was waiting for this to show up. trump with his words



He's such a dumbass, does he think the 5 or so instances of people stupidly burning their Nike clothing on Twitter, is proof that Nike is trending downwards?

I bet he also thinks Nike's stock going down is an indicator of people moving onto other brands, when it was really more of a NAFTA issue with trade barriers as Puma, and Adidas were also trending downwards.
 

vertigo

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Aug 25, 2018
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Its hard for us patriotic americans with all these corporations supporting the liberal agenda and disrespecting our country. If this keeps going im going to have to destroy all of my shit.
(/s, obvs)
 

LucidMomentum

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Nov 18, 2017
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While the parodies are funny, I kinda don't like them since they've mostly been in relation to negative characters (Thanos, Griffith, etc.) which has the connotation that Kapernick is similar.

However, the fact that one man has done so much to show us how fucked up this country's priorities are is incredible.

Like, it's gotten so far beyond Police Brutality at this point.
 

RedMercury

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Dec 24, 2017
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Ain't no Nike going on this body...Nothing to do with race...He's a shitty quarterback who uses his millionaire status to get his message out...You know how many hard working American's would be fired on the spot for making their beliefs known??? And all the military men and women who have died, been wounded, and served that feel disrespected??? I'm the biggest Patriot's Fan in the world, and if Tom Brady every did this - I would do / say the same thing...I'm all about Social Justice...Find another way, Colin...

Look at what nike shoes have cost in the past. As far as lives lost from murders. Let alone the monetary. I've only ever had New Balance (style still made in USA).

A couple of responses from now-removed distant relatives on facebook.

I wonder how many of these people either have Confederate flags on their cars or clothes or have never complained about people flying that flag (prob all of them), you would think if they cared so much about patriotism they would be pretty pissed about that flag being used. they should be all gung-ho to get those statues down too considering the Confederacy literally tried to tear down our democracy.
 

F34R

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Oct 27, 2017
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I don't need an army man to tell me that it's okay to peacefully protest, and the people who are racist fucks about it aren't going to be swayed by him either
Then it wasn't for you. ;) I posted it on facebook for some of my friends to see beyond the idea that he's disrespecting the military, the flag, etc.