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Echo

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Oct 29, 2017
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Yes, aside from one character returning & reminding you he was the character from the first game who controlled Jehuty, the game's plot is stand alone.

The first wasn't nearly as good as the sequel. It was cool, but you could tell that it was experimenting still.

Not sure if this version of the release has it, but in the original PS2 version of the game, in the menu it had a story recap "Previous Story" that showed a Kojima-like mini movie (combining cutscenes with gameplay) of what happened in the first game.

If anything I'm sure you can find it on youtube.

found it:


If they remastered the first one first everyone familiar with the series would do nothing but ask when are they remastering the second game. The second game is leaps and bounds better than the first. The first game was more noted for coming with an MGS2 demo.

Thanks guys. I'll buy ZoE2 with confidence then.

Double thanks for the Video FlashbladeERA :)
 

Minamu

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Nov 18, 2017
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So ZOE is a hsck and slash? I had no idea, I paid no attention to this series as a kid. Are there any good vr videos around? Good or bad way to first experience the game/series?
 

Sheng Long

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Oct 27, 2017
7,590
Earth
So ZOE is a hsck and slash? I had no idea, I paid no attention to this series as a kid. Are there any good vr videos around? Good or bad way to first experience the game/series?

It's so much more than a hack n slash. Even not having the first, this is a good way to intro the series. And, well, there aren't any other games really except for some handheld stuff that was meh.
 

Minamu

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Nov 18, 2017
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It's so much more than a hack n slash. Even not having the first, this is a good way to intro the series. And, well, there aren't any other games really except for some handheld stuff that was meh.
So much more how? :D I'm mostly curious as to how VR works and if that's a good way to play it or if I should play it as originally intended first.
 

FlashbladeERA

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Oct 27, 2017
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The same recap in the OT. :P
Didn't mean to steal any of your thunder OP :(

Thanks guys. I'll buy ZoE2 with confidence then.

Double thanks for the Video FlashbladeERA :)

No prob. OP had the same link to it as well in the Backstory section.
It was a URL link instead of a media link like he had for the trailer section which is probably why we both didn't catch it (or assumed it re-directed to a wiki page)
 

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Oct 27, 2017
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For those playing on PC without VR. Try running the game in borderless with VSync on and use Rivatuner and set the FPS lock to 60. You get no frametime hiccups with that.

Notice how flat the line graph is for frame times.

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roflwaffles

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Oct 30, 2017
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ZOE2 was actually my second favorite game in PS2 behind DMC3SE.

I really don't want to support Konami now though.
 

Whompa

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Oct 26, 2017
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I feel like this is a feeler release for a full blown sequel...wonder if they' be able to get any OG team members back
 
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JehutyRunner

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Oct 26, 2017
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I feel like this is a feeler release for a full blown sequel...wonder if they' be able to get any OG team members back

Obviously Kojima is off the table, but Shinkawa will be as well. And not just because he's KP/semi-freelancer, but he went through shit on TPP (albeit not as extreme as Koj).

The only unknown is Shuyo Murata, the director of ZoE2. I don't know if he's left Konami (and therefore with Kojima or not) or is still there.
 

Cloud-Hidden

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Oct 30, 2017
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As a heads up, we'll be working with Konami on a Twitter giveaway. A couple of PS4 codes, as well as a ZOE branded PS4 controller and some other goodies (I think they mentioned socks and a pin? No, I'm not joking). I won't share the tweet here when it goes live since I'm sure that's against the rules, but since this is a niche game I'm not expecting a ton of RT entries, so y'all can keep an eye out for that if you want a good chance to win. Should go live next week if not the end of this week; they have to ship us the physical stuff.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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Okay I bought it on PS4. Excited to give it a go, but mostly just showing my support to remind Konami that people want remasters off them.
 

Slacker247

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Oct 27, 2017
4,063
I liked the first ZOE quite a bit, minus the lame 1HP mission. But yeah, Second Runner is bigger and better by leaps and bounds (baddum-tss!) First game is skippable - lead character appears in SR but that's really about it. Going straight into SR is absolutely perfectly fine!

I forget, but Jehuty doesn't have the first game's colour as an unlockable in this game does it? I like both colours, but sometimes like the first game's more.
 

Zonic

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Oct 25, 2017
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As a heads up, we'll be working with Konami on a Twitter giveaway. A couple of PS4 codes, as well as a ZOE branded PS4 controller and some other goodies (I think they mentioned socks and a pin? No, I'm not joking). I won't share the tweet here when it goes live since I'm sure that's against the rules, but since this is a niche game I'm not expecting a ton of RT entries, so y'all can keep an eye out for that if you want a good chance to win. Should go live next week if not the end of this week; they have to ship us the physical stuff.
Oh man, I will gladly enter a contest for the controller & the other bonus stuff. Can you at least let us know when it's live?
 
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As a heads up, we'll be working with Konami on a Twitter giveaway. A couple of PS4 codes, as well as a ZOE branded PS4 controller and some other goodies (I think they mentioned socks and a pin? No, I'm not joking). I won't share the tweet here when it goes live since I'm sure that's against the rules, but since this is a niche game I'm not expecting a ton of RT entries, so y'all can keep an eye out for that if you want a good chance to win. Should go live next week if not the end of this week; they have to ship us the physical stuff.
I'd love to get that ZoE controller.
still not sure whether to buy or not
 

Bradford

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Aug 12, 2018
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Man, I was really excited to play this but the controller issues and lack of Japanese support at all are a huge bummer. I'm hoping that on the 6th (when the game is out in Japan) I'll be able to set the language to Japanese on steam since it does display as available... what a mess.

I'm still excited to try out VR mode, though. But if the full text+audio language support (which is one of the reasons why I purchased the game on steam to begin with) isn't there I'll have to wait until I can mod it in somehow. Still, I'm super happy this got a release since it is an amazing game overall.
 

Sheng Long

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Oct 27, 2017
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So much more how? :D I'm mostly curious as to how VR works and if that's a good way to play it or if I should play it as originally intended first.

There's flight and ranged combat rather than just slashing with an energy blade. The combat isn't just mash to win either, there are enemies that require use of sub weapons to get around their defenses etc. It's pretty cool for an older title and the gameplay for a mech game is really fast paced. Can't comment on VR, haven't got mine yet.
 

BrickArts295

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Oct 26, 2017
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Demo got me pretty hyped. Its a shame they couldn't find a way to make the cutscenes VR.
 

Vilix

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Oct 25, 2017
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ZOE was the pentacle of Japanese developed games. I love the style, gameplay, and techno trance music. They just don't make games like this anymore. The closet that comes to ZOE is MGR and Vanquish. If they do make a true sequel to ZOE2 I hope PlatinumGames develops it.
 

Hazzaku

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Oct 25, 2017
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I wasn't gonna buy this having already owned the PS3 remaster ... but I saw that it was out on the US store and the price was pretty damn good.

Still no dual dub though for those who care.
 
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JehutyRunner

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Oct 26, 2017
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ZOE was the pentacle of Japanese developed games. I love the style, gameplay, and techno trance music. They just don't make games like this anymore. The closet that comes to ZOE is MGR and Vanquish. If they do make a true sequel to ZOE2 I hope PlatinumGames develops it.

To be frankly honest, I was recluctant at first of Platinum doing ZoE3. But that was when Kojima Productions was still a Konami-owned developer.

Now, they're the only shot of us getting a ZoE3 if someone was to develop. That or CyGames themselves. Because, as much shit as Konami deserves for not even observing the original dev team of the game, CyGames seems to have done a top notch job on this, at least going by the 40 minutes spent playing it on PC.
 

Whompa

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Oct 26, 2017
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I think this was a passion project for a big wig at CyGames who wanted to do a full on remaster of this. Maybe it could lead to something bigger.

Could be in the best interests of both companies. Learning the tech and development of zoe2 could help CyGames become a stronger dev studio and Konami would have a chance to dig into their graveyard of unfinished projects and Frankenstein some sort of sequel / prequel out of it.

I have no idea how publishing studios decide on their future projects though, especially Japanese ones.
 

Quad Lasers

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Oct 26, 2017
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Are we sure the name is long enough?

Interested to see if we end up getting some kind of japanese voices mod. My friend makes a huge stink about the English voices and I'm inclined to agree.
 

Valkerion

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Oct 29, 2017
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Forgot this was coming out. One of my favorite games of all time. Might have to buy it again for the third time lol. Any cool CE's?
 

Baron Von Beans

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Oct 27, 2017
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I haven't bought a new PS4 game since MoHun World. This weekend, I am 100% buying this. To support the franchise, but also because it's goddam Zone of the Enders in goddam VR. I can't wait.
 

Bradford

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Aug 12, 2018
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Is the opening cutscene/demo bugged for anyone else? I literally have to just sit and watch the 5 minute attract mode before the menu opens up before I'm able to even launch into the campaign itself, or edit any of the options. I think I'm going to refund until the issues get sorted out unless there's an easy fix. I've tried using both my keyboard and my gamepad, and both in VR and standard mode to no avail.
 

criteriondog

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Oct 26, 2017
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I loved the demo! I got the HD PS3 games but never touched them. Besides being 4K ready, (I don't have a VR headset), does this version add anything significant?
 

Zonic

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Oct 25, 2017
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I loved the demo! I got the HD PS3 games but never touched them. Besides being 4K ready, (I don't have a VR headset), does this version add anything significant?
Aside from 4K visuals (& I think better framerate) & I think a new "pro" control scheme, no, this is almost the exact same game. Down to the trophy list and icons being the exact same as the PS3 release, even keeping the fact the A & S ranking trophies don't stack.
 

Ada

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Nov 28, 2017
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Up to Vic viper on my Vive and I'm loving it. Can't wait to play more after work.