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Dice

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Oct 25, 2017
22,730
Canada
New trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWEtCsi3Eo8

Looks better although the framerate is still tripping me up.

Oof, the animating itself really isn't that great either, it takes a ton of shortcuts. Here's hoping it's fucking amazing and gets aloted a bigger animated budget...or something

I mean, it looks like it'll be an entertaining show for sure, but yeah the animation ain't quite there (and it's not like other great animated shows don't suffer the occasional low frame rate....)
 

Kschreck

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,102
Pennsylvania
The art in this is absolutely stunning but the framerate is headache inducing even just from that trailer. Really unfortunate that they chose to do that as a "stylistic choice".
 

Reinhard

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,648
Ugh I don't think I'll be able to sit through a single episode with that horrible frame rate. Unfortunate since I like the people behind it.
 

Kino

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,337
Eh, I hate to jump on the dogpile, but the visuals really are hard on the eyes.
 

Mortemis

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
7,449
The art really does look incredible. If only it weren't so damn choppy, it's ruining it for me. If it's like the trailer I feel like it'll take me outta it.
 
May 26, 2018
24,097
The art really does look incredible. If only it weren't so damn choppy, it's ruining it for me. If it's like the trailer I feel like it'll take me outta it.

At times it feels okay, and other times it makes my brain feel like it's tilting sideways. Which is reallllly uncomfortable. I hope the story's so good that I just forget.
 

steejee

Member
Oct 28, 2017
8,730
Some of the scenes in the new trailer look fine, others look like the same horrid low fps stuff of the first.

WHHYYYY

It was only tolerable in Knights of Sidonia because virtually all the action was in the mechs, which they didn't seem to use the same framerate on. Here it just looks CHEAP
 

That Guy

Member
Nov 13, 2017
580
It looks so much better at 1.25x speed. Wonder if there will be a way to do that on netflix....
 

Dream Machine

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,085
Wow that was a real roller coaster of emotions.

I was pumped from the information and the image in the OP, then just watched the newest trailer. Yeesh, that style is uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunappealing.
 

MDSVeritas

Gameplay Programmer, Sony Santa Monica
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
1,031
Just saw the new trailer, it raised my hopes for the series considerably after admittedly being a little unsure about my thoughts on the framerate. Like most folks here I would definitely prefer it to look a bit smoother, but otherwise the production values of the series look on-point, and the teases of characterization and cast hint towards some cool characters arcs in this show. With the Avatar Head Writer behind it I'm hopeful going into it, looking forward to checking it out!
 

Htown

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,347
like, the it looks bad even among other animation I've seen that intentionally lowers the framerate

into the spider-verse is doing something similar, but it's smooth enough to look like stop-motion animation instead of just being choppy
 

Hella

Member
Oct 27, 2017
23,430
I... didn't realise this did the CG-faux-animated thing. Netflix's Godzilla movies do something similar and I find them unwatchable.

I'll probably still check it out, but I dunno how far I can make it with such a revolting visual style.
 

Wogan

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,071
Goodness there are some backwards ass decisions with the presentation on this. The visuals aren't springy enough to warrant the frame rate gimmick. It works with the Spider-man animation because it is bright and fast and kinetic. It fits the tone. It feels pointless here. I don't see why they thought it was a good idea. I really hope they are hearing this negative feedback.
 

Tuck

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,595
God that animation is rough. But everything else looks potentially good, so Ill watch.
 
Oct 26, 2017
3,532
I want to be more excited for this because of Aaron Ehasz involvement but I'm just not sure.

I think the characters will be fine but the story/world-building comes across as very generic. I do love dragons tho so I'm looking forward to watching this and Bojack when it launches.
 

Crossing Eden

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Oct 26, 2017
53,583
This show's art direction and character designs are so appealing, they absolutely nailed the look of the characters:
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Trafalgar Law

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Nov 6, 2017
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Net_Wrecker

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,737
The art is fantastic, but i also agree that it's a little too choppy in execution. The incredible and incredibly underrated Tron: Uprising did this style at a higher level.

The show could still be great beyond that though, so I'll check it out.
 

ObbyDent

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,910
Los Angeles
im legit fucking angry at the low framerate. like, in stills i love the art. thats not how animation should work. it should be best in motion. but this? this is such a waste of the animation, writing, and acting talent on display here.

ugh.
 

Princess Bubblegum

I'll be the one who puts you in the ground.
On Break
Oct 25, 2017
10,332
A Cavern Shaped Like Home

MadraptorMan

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Oct 27, 2017
947
Niigata, Japan
Ugh...as most have been saying that frame rate really makes it hard to watch. I could never make it through any of the CG anime with the same problem. It's a shame.
 

kurahador

Member
Oct 28, 2017
17,651
I wonder why they didn't use higher frame rate. That new Star Wars cartoon looks better in comparison due the frame rate even with inferior art direction.
 

Cheerilee

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,969
Damn, this looks like something I might really enjoy, but the framerate completely kills it for me. Ah well.
 

Slacker247

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,066
Pretty hyped. Hope the animation is up to par.


Also... Korra was amazing and people have bad taste and don't deserve this new series if they say otherwise!

Kinda agree. The Zaheer arc was good stuff.

If anything TLA has way too many filler episodes,for my liking anyway. Took a while to get going for me compared to Korra.
 

Inugami

Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,995
The new trailer has better animation... but the real cringe is that writing. "Unstoppable is just another kind of stoppable." "No it isn't." That's neither witty, funny, nor was it even properly paced and timed for the trailer.
 

Oddish1

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Oct 25, 2017
2,831
Kinda agree. The Zaheer arc was good stuff.

If anything TLA has way too many filler episodes,for my liking anyway. Took a while to get going for me compared to Korra.
TLA doesn't have filler to my recollection. It has episodes dedicated to character development rather than being focused on the "main plot" but that's completely different from filler.
 

Tagg

Attempted to circumvent ban with an alt-account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,717
FYI this has been received rave reviews ahead of the Friday premiere.

The show is rife with smaller elements, and the details seem designed to raise complicated questions for people to obsess over and elaborate on. Like Avatar: The Last Airbender, The Dragon Prince seems designed to not only build an elaborate world, but to build an elaborate fandom.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/7/17826544/the-dragon-prince-review-avatar-last-airbender-netflix

'The Dragon Prince' is the best new Netflix show of 2018
https://www.hypable.com/the-dragon-prince-review-netflix/

'The Dragon Prince' Is What 'The Last Airbender' Fans Have Been Waiting For
https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/...the-last-airbender-fans-have-been-waiting-for
 

Maxina

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
3,308
It wouldn't surprise me that the story/writing will be good considering who's behind it, but god damn the animation is horrifyingly bad. Almost as bad as the recentt Berserk anime.
 

Tagg

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Oct 25, 2017
2,717
It wouldn't surprise me that the story/writing will be good considering who's behind it, but god damn the animation is horrifyingly bad. Almost as bad as the recentt Berserk anime.
Unfortunately it seems like they were purposefully going for that look, and we won't be getting a smoother version anytime soon given each frame was apparently individually composited (at least based on one animator's explanation).
https://twitter.com/my2k/status/1032004063259287552
 
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Aurongel

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Oct 28, 2017
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The frame rate bothers me much less than the jarring mix of 2D and 3D present. I'll still give it a shot.