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BassForever

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Oct 25, 2017
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Reviews seem in line with what I expected. Not a day one buy but I'll get it down the road when it's on sale.
 

CarthOhNoes

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Oct 25, 2017
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Another thing to keep in mind is that a lot of heavily weighted sites (Polygon, Eurogamer, etc) got RID of review scores. Which means there are more reviews in the pool but some of the biggest outlets don't really contribute to the average as much as they used to.

Obsessing over the Metascore and not the actual review opinions is gonna he the death of some of y'all. Insom will be fine.

Quite so. It's getting great reviews. Really, really great.
 

Ryengeku

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Oct 26, 2017
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Ugh, please can we stop trying to compare every single Sony-exclusive to Breath of the Wild?
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Please make it stop.
 

Deleted member 41931

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Reviews are looking good. Eager to play Friday even if I still don't have the highest expectations for the writing/story.
 

Mister X

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Dec 5, 2017
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Eh, these statements never made sense to me. BotW is a game that takes a lot of controversial risks with Zelda traditions. If this "Zelda bias" was real, I think it would actually hurt BotW as the game completely changes the formula of the series
Zelda BOTW mostly copies the Elder scrolls open world formula, it was not a big risk imo. It's what Zelda fans always wanted.
Are you that person from Twitter who has a bio that says "BOTW IS NOT A 97" and searches for people talking about it just to pick fights
Looks like not agreeing with BOTW's score is a sensitive topic for a lot of people.

Zelda BOTW is still a great game though but FAR from a near perfect game imo, looks like that's a controversial statement here.

Anyway I'll leave it be. Have fun playing whatever you guys want.
 

Deleted member 17207

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Stop arguing against Metacritic. He decided that GTA IV and a random skate game are better than Botw. It's over you can't change the mind of a celestial God.
Lol.

To get serious, it's mind-boggling to me how a metacritic score matters to people here so much, especially when it comes to a +1/-1 difference.

Like......why.
 

SageShinigami

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Oct 27, 2017
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Yeah people expecting this to beat god of war was unrealistic. The only other game that has a chance at surpassing god of war this year is red dead.

The industry's emphasis on story meant GoW was never going to lose to Spider-Man. In the end, Spider-Man simply was unlikely to tell the kind of gripping story that could beat GoW.

Sales are one thing, but anyone thinking this was going to beat GoW critically was asking too much.
 

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Zelda BOTW mostly copies the Elder scrolls open world formula, it was not a big risk imo. It's what Zelda fans always wanted.

Looks like not agreeing with BOTW's score is a sensitive topic for a lot of people.

Zelda BOTW is still a great game though but FAR from a near perfect game imo, looks like that's a controversial statement here.

Anyway I'll leave it be. Have fun playing whatever you guys want.
Lol this confirms to me that you didn't play the game at all.
 

Doskoi Panda

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Zelda BOTW mostly copies the Elder scrolls open world formula, it was not a big risk imo. It's what Zelda fans always wanted.
LMAO, woooooow.

I'm gonna assume that your first exposure to the Zelda fanbase was post-Breath of the Wild because that's the only way you could earnestly believe this.

No, dude. An open-world 3D Zelda isn't what Zelda fans always wanted. It's literally the opposite of what Zelda fans always wanted. You'd know that if you knew about Zelda fans.
 
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Critical success down.

Now we just need the "Spider-Man sold X units in Y days; best selling Insomniac game ever" level commercial success.

Y'all on the come up, Insomniac!
 

zenspider

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Nov 7, 2017
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Right, but do you see the latter as working for every open world game? Do you want baron aimless exploration based games with every open world title?

Maybe it could, but is the "baron [sic], aimless" tag necessary? Obviously the people who think BotW is a step forward for the open-world genre don't feel that way, and loading your question like that makes it sound like you don't really want an answer as to how BotW can inform open-world designers going forward.
 

Gnorman

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Jan 14, 2018
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/sp...ive-on-september-4th-update-poll-added.63231/

On the contrary, at least 33% of people that took part in this poll thought it would do better. That's not even counting for the part of the vast majority who voted for 86-89 but thought it would get 88 or 89.

I did not think it would get better scores FWIW, but clearly lots of people did.

Certainly not no one.
Lol you know full well half of the votes will be from fanboys of other consoles just so they could come into the review thread and say the game scored less than people expected.

When did an 87 average become mixed signals by the way? I know I'm old but to me an 87 for a game i was interested in is an instant purchase.
 

DukeBlue

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Nov 6, 2017
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Zelda BOTW mostly copies the Elder scrolls open world formula, it was not a big risk imo. It's what Zelda fans always wanted.

Looks like not agreeing with BOTW's score is a sensitive topic for a lot of people.

Zelda BOTW is still a great game though but FAR from a near perfect game imo, looks like that's a controversial statement here.

Anyway I'll leave it be. Have fun playing whatever you guys want.
Maybe play the game before you write things that are clearly false? That ES comparison...laughable
 

Astandahl

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Oct 28, 2017
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Lol.

To get serious, it's mind-boggling to me how a metacritic score matters to people here so much, especially when it comes to a +1/-1 difference.

Like......why.
Are you really downplaying a +1/-1 difference? Am i reading this right? Look at the massive difference in quality between Bioshock and Halo 2. The first is a decent game i would rent the second is pure garbage crap ( only 95 on MC bleah )
 

Euler007

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/sp...ive-on-september-4th-update-poll-added.63231/

On the contrary, at least 33% of people that took part in this poll thought it would do better. That's not even counting for the part of the vast majority who voted for 86-89 but thought it would get 88 or 89.

I did not think it would get better scores FWIW, but clearly lots of people did.

Certainly not no one.

More excel fun.
33.4% voted for 90+, 62% of the reviews scored 90+
44.9% voted for 86-89, 7.6% of the reviews scored 86-89
17.9% voted for 80-85, 24.1% of the reviews scored 80-85
3.7% voted for 80-, 6.3% of the reviews scored lower than 80

It's not a direct comparison, but numbers are fun.
 

Phendrift

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Oct 25, 2017
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LMAO, woooooow.

I'm gonna assume that your first exposure to the Zelda fanbase was post-Breath of the Wild because that's the only way you could earnestly believe this.

No, dude. An open-world 3D Zelda isn't what Zelda fans always wanted. It's literally the opposite of what Zelda fans always wanted. You'd know that if you knew about Zelda fans.
Wait, whaaaa? Lots of Zelda fans wanted that. Maybe not in the exact way BotW executes it, but BotW was made in direct response to SS linearity complaints
 

Mister X

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LMAO, woooooow.

I'm gonna assume that your first exposure to the Zelda fanbase was post-Breath of the Wild because that's the only way you could earnestly believe this.

No, dude. An open-world 3D Zelda isn't what Zelda fans always wanted. It's literally the opposite of what Zelda fans always wanted. You'd know that if you knew about Zelda fans.
Been playing Zelda since the NES. Zelda fans I know always wanted a true open world game.

.....so spider man looks good right guys?
 

Raijinto

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Lol you know full well half of the votes will be from fanboys of other consoles just so they could come into the review thread and say the game scored less than people expected.

When did an 87 average become mixed signals by the way? I know I'm old but to me an 87 for a game i was interested in is an instant purchase.

I was just responding to the other comment regarding that 'no one expected better', so I don't know what you're referring to with your second sentence there. I agree- 87 is great.

And the poll was absolutely fine whilst it was ongoing as far as I'm aware- I didn't know that it was sabotaged at all. Do you have proof of that?
 

Renna Hazel

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm happy to hear that just goofing off around the city is fun. That's the main thing I was hoping for in this game, having it just be something that feels fun to play regardless of missions and such.
 

Doskoi Panda

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Oct 27, 2017
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Because Zelda fans can never resist bringing it up.
actually, it was brought up in this thread as a joke and someone who really dislikes the game made a post railing on it. one that they got warned for. that's how it happened. actually.

something tells me you knew that, though, and just chose not to give a shit
Wait, whaaaa? Lots of Zelda fans wanted that. Maybe not in the exact way BotW executes it, but BotW was made in direct response to SS linearity complaints
Been playing Zelda since the NES. Zelda fans I know always wanted a true open world game.
I can recall years of people explaining in detail how 3D Zelda would not work as an open world game. It was a point of contention among Zelda fans for years.
 
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nib95

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Oct 28, 2017
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There is no use an demanding what "exactly" I want, because if I demand a specific thing then every other game doesn't do exactly that will be a disappointment. I maintain an open mind about new mechanics and ways to reshape the genre because otherwise everything will be disappointing.

In terms of a "wishlist" in an open-world game, specifically for superhero games, I've always wanted to see a game that shakes up the formula with respect to mission structure. More specifically, I'd love to see a game that treats its villains not as a mission enemy or a mission boss, but rather an independent agent within the open-world structure that has its own motivations and performs actions independently, both as a reaction to what the player is doing or as a pre-emptive strike. I'd like to see villains that pop up unexpectedly, at different times that the player may not anticipate, as the villain hatches schemes throughout the city based on character-specific parameters (one villain might be stealing from a bank to fund his ridiculous doomsday device: if he's successful in getting away, the next time you see him he's trying to fire up said doomsday device he's now built). A game where its villains operate independently (or perhaps even collaborate) from the game's established linear mission structure would make the world feel far more alive and involved than a series of missions or lightly procedurally-generated side activities.

Again, this is just one example, one that would work with a superhero open world game but not with BOTW, just like how BOTW's open traversal system and exploration-heavy design works specifically for a Zelda game but not others. I still think Spider-Man PS4 is going to be fun for what it is, but I'm thirsty for for the next evolutionary step.

I don't think what you've described would change the game much, since what you've described actually already occurs in the game to some extent only without the same level of variable accountability, but I do like your idea none-the-less.
 

Orayn

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Oct 25, 2017
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Looks like not agreeing with BOTW's score is a sensitive topic for a lot of people.

Zelda BOTW is still a great game though but FAR from a near perfect game imo, looks like that's a controversial statement here.
I love BotW but don't really care about scores, it just seemed like the exact same talking point.
 

-Le Monde-

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Dec 8, 2017
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All the praise it's getting is going to make the weekend wait unbearable. :(

I've yet to make a choice, between the bundle, or the game. I have both preordered, but time is running out. :x
 

Siresly

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Oct 27, 2017
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I demand someone somewhere give it another 10/10 so I can be right about my prediction.