Why is This Place So Much Less Fun?? (A Case for Shitposts)

harry the spy said:

Neogaf was far, far, worse from that point of view. Beyond the memes about it amirox was an unbearable piece of shit (besides being a pedophile but we didn't know that). And no, I never got banned or really engaged with him. He was the worst but lots of mods were clearly enjoying their power.

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Word. GAF had mods I was genuinely afraid to respond to. Like...they would show up in a thread, and I would sprint out. ResetEra has infinitely better moderation. I feel like I can (reasonably) respond to mods/admins and disagree with them, and not catch a ban here.

Goddamn that classic wife post would've been perfect for the first page, like within the first few replies. Imagine the responses.

Zubz said:

Cybersai was a legit pedophile who posted nigh-R34 of underage Pokèmon protagonists while talking about his lust for them, & defended Kid Chi-Chi's barely-an-outfit outfit. I'm fine never seeing Cybersai again.

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WTF, I wasn't aware of that. I found his behavior of trolling and admitting doing so on era on other forums pathetic and gross but this here is on a whole other level. Fuck that dude.

Too bad people brought up the CDPR thread and other social issue related moderation... I'm fine with that. I just think goofy threads get shut down too early and mods are quick to give warnings and bans for trolley comments.

Seems like the arguments just turned into "so you want to defend pedophiles, transphobia, and racism?"... No. I think most people agreeing with op's general premise don't want looser moderation on any of that.

harry the spy said:

Neogaf was far, far, worse from that point of view. Beyond the memes about it amirox was an unbearable piece of shit (besides being a pedophile but we didn't know that). And no, I never got banned or really engaged with him. He was the worst but lots of mods were clearly enjoying their power.

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Shout-outs to them 1984'ing any threads about Amirox's arrest so it felt like you were reading Snapchats trying to parse that info.

Yeah I agree with the premise entirely.

I've only been warned once (and it was fair), but I see a lot of red on top of posts that I feel were just harmless fun. Discussion is tone policed way too much and I often feel like joking around can be like walking on eggshells. And way too often silly threads are just locked for no reason.

A lot of the time I take a look at Etcetera, see nothing fun (mostly just politics and news stories), and go elsewhere.

The less serious threads just aren't left to run their course. I post a lot in the Smash discussion threads because they move so fast and are so full of shit posts that it's actually really enjoyable.

Zubz said:

Cybersai was a legit pedophile who posted nigh-R34 of underage Pokèmon protagonists while talking about his lust for them, & defended Kid Chi-Chi's barely-an-outfit outfit. I'm fine never seeing Cybersai again.

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Nobody's perfect

Agreed 100%

Everyone needs to lighten the hell up.

Also, why can't we have emojis like literally every other forum? That right there is a prime example of staff here taking shit wayyyy too seriously.

Vincent Alexander said:

Word. GAF had mods I was genuinely afraid to respond to. Like...they would show up in a thread, and I would sprint out. ResetEra has infinitely better moderation. I feel like I can (reasonably) respond to mods/admins and disagree with them, and not catch a ban here.

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Exactly. I get it if people think this place is still uptight, but in comparison with GAF? Especially during the shitshow 2016-2017 period???? Posting there was like posting in a minefield, I'm sorry.

Oh for that people keep wondering why people keep using "other place" and euphemisms in place of gaf; Voldermorting something is funny, and namedropping the place might have a tendency to derail threads

Machachan said:

Your post is a perfect example of what sucks here, yeah.
The tiniest moderation of transphobia is immediately screamed about by a good number of dudes, who are so *used* to hating on LGBT people that even this little is seen as an overreach.

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Yikes.

This forum is just smokes and mirrors.

Dennis8K said:

High level-User stuff.

Top echelon.

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It just clicked that we officially have our own version of GAF Gold over here---Prominent Member! Ok. The restructuring was all worth it now. .

Flow said:

oh no doubt. Neogaf was more fuckery than here. Least when you get warned or banned on here everyone knows if the reason is bs.

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Yup. That transparency cannot be overstated.

A Robot said:

Yikes.

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Zero nuance describes parts of this forum pretty good.

RE... TWEET!!!!

Bernd Lauert said:

Zero nuance describes parts of this forum pretty good.

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What nuance do we get from giving transphobes a place at the table?

And let's eschew the genuinely ignorant in that statement. What do we get from having some guy come in to shit on trans folks?

Where's the Dreamcast Porn Party guy?

We had loads of fun in that one thread about that Filip guy's plagiarized IGN reviews. I'm not sure that would have been possible in the authoritarian forum some members imagine ERA to be.

Armored Ape said:

Too bad people brought up the CDPR thread and other social issue related moderation... I'm fine with that. I just think goofy threads get shut down too early and mods are quick to give warnings and bans for trolley comments.

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That is a very different discussion but I do think there's a discussion to be had there.

It was just an immediate wave of red "banned" posts, most of which seemed to be more ignorant rather than malicious, and no attempt was made at having a conversation and even educating people. Just a simple "say you agree or you get a ban".

Like yeah, a lot of those bans were justified, but there was literally 100+ people banned just like that.

Sibersk Esto said:

... a thread every week where they can point and laugh at some socially awkward dipshit until SunhiLegend makes a gif they can quote for 20 pages...

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I now know what is missing from my life. This please

Camells said:

Where's the Dreamcast Porn Party guy?

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Lol. I hope he got a tag for that thread

I have to agree with you, OP, but I think it's more the users than it is the mods. I still like it here and there are plenty of cool and intelligent people, but sometimes there just seems like there's not much room for discourse when it comes to certain subjects...I've been teamed up on a few times and I feel like for the most part I'm pretty open, reasonable and friendly. I think it's partially because of what's going on in the world right now, but a lot of people just seem...angry. I'm not saying you shouldn't be angry, but I would ask that people realize they're talking to human beings here, and should make sure to direct that anger to people that really deserve it, like politicians or your asshole neighbor.

And when it comes down to it, this place is still better than 99% of the internet. I always try to keep that in mind.

I quite agree with the OP on this one. But where he sees it as a negative, I'd say it's been the biggest positive of ERA so far.

I've seen and been a member of plenty of other forums and I don't think i've ever seen a place more petty and filled with shitposts then the old one. The fact that even one of the moderators stooped to that level (you all know who I mean...) really marked it out as a shitty forum.

And frankly, I'd go much further by saying this: by allowing so much pettiness and shitposting to exist, it enabled a lot of these "personalities" to get away with some real abusive bullshit. All under the guise of some "friendly ribbing".

What's considered restrictive by the OP is actually also known as "normal moderation of the discussion" in other message boards. I'm glad the team here is doing their best to keep the discussion on track.

Here's to the moderators of ResetERA! *raises glas filled with brandy*

And good riddance to the petty dumpster fire that was the old place.

The strict moderation made sure my bait threads were ALWAYS on and popping until they figured out I was doing too much damage (?) getting people BANT etc. The moderation being somehow even more strict than GAF makes posting here more boring in general though, especially because the tone of the moderation trickles down to posters here being overly serious.

Here is better than the alternative though.

Give me shitposts or give me death

Weiss said:

What nuance do we get from giving transphobes a place at the table?

And let's eschew the genuinely ignorant in that statement. What do we get from having some guy come in to shit on trans folks?

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When you apply zero nuance to these issues, it can easily happen that you label people as transphobes who aren't transphobes at all.

SNES Jr said:

This is a perfect example of what sucks about this place beyond the lack of humor. Nuance is not allowed at all.

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Literally what was nuanced about what he said? He very explicitly said:

So what if he is pro trump? let him have his opinion.

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A couple of days ago i went into the old forum and they were talking mad shit about how ERA was banning people left and right for the whole CDPR Tweet and it just made me think about wth goes on in here sometimes.

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It was whining about intolerance not being tolerated by moderation and the community.

Probably my favorite memory of GAF was following the BaconBitz Christmas wallpaper thread live as it unfolded. I can't imagine anything like that thread happening here.

Pretty telling that the OP says that want to see more lighthearted nonsense and the discussion goes straight to whether pedophiles should be given a voice. No one has a black and white, A or B choice between being a piece of shit or perpetually having a stick up their ass. I still read this forum a lot because too my knowledge there's really nothing else like it, but I completely agree with the OP that Era just isn't fun to browse.

It sucks because GAF is a shitshow right now. That fun culture was just lost, Era has a far more serious tone and while GAF is still finding its collective voice it doesn't feel like it will recapture that atmosphere either.

There's that guy who makes creepy threads about staring at girls

Basically a living meme

Mahonay said:

Lol. I hope he got a tag for that thread

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He did! And he's one of the only posters so far to get one, too.

Bernd Lauert said:

When you apply zero nuance to these issues, it can easily happen that you label people as transphobes who aren't transphobes at all.

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And I ask, what nuance is there in someone who's just here to say "yeah I don't think trans people are valid?" I've already said that someone who genuinely doesn't know should be given a chance to learn if they actually take a step to recognize where they're wrong, but that's not the kind of person who gets banned on ERA.

So I ask you, what nuance is there in this situation?

I remember when GAF thought a webcam girl was dead....she wasn't....then started debating console graphics in her room....then got her to put a shoe on her head.

Plenty of bullshit bans/warnings here but i'm not pining for the "glory days" of gaf. The mods were trash with cults of personality.

Still annoyed they shut down that one pornhub incest thread when we started posting stuff about Dreamworks Monsters vs Aliens. That thread was harmless and fun. Vulgar but didn't need to be locked just because it had "run its course".

Generally I do feel I have to avoid joke posts as people will always jump fown my throat and don't let up for several pages.



But on the other hand... what counts as fun to one person might not be fun to another . The OP mentions harmless "ribbing" but there's plenty of times were someones made a serious posts and they get a lot of condescending, dismissive shitty responses non-stop. The less of that the better.

this has been the trend for a while now.

at the end of the day we are all nerds talking about nerd shit.

we all could stand to loosen up a bit (myself included).

But the real answer is that many of the real fun times happen in OTs

The lack of pro-Trump threads is why Trump won.

And also obviously what this place needs to be more fun.

Bernd Lauert said:

When you apply zero nuance to these issues, it can easily happen that you label people as transphobes who aren't transphobes at all.

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Except we're applying a lot of nuance. More than deserved even - a lot of die-hard CDPR-defenders weren't banned, even if their arguments skirted transphobia. Not a single ban I saw there wasn't for a post that was blatant in its defense of, or support for, transphobia, blamed LGBT people for our own oppression, or directly supported flat out alt-right positions.

We can see this in this very thread, even. People that are very angry about the bans, but don't use transphobic language directly, don't get hit by a banhammer.
I DO see people lacking nuance, though. Those are usually the ones that are very angry about these bans in the first place, and just view bans as mod overreach without looking at the context of what was banned or why.

ResetEra will be freed from the masses of the mods as soon as Finn actually wins something in Star Wars.

i_am_ben said:

The greatest of all GAF threads

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Nah, that goes to alexmogil Ambien Buhuhuhu Rubhive thread. The possum is an honory second.

As for OP, we had some already in the short timespan ERA has been around. Chibi Robo fire, IGN plagiarism thread, and all the others posted in this thread. Oh also the ghost house invasion thread was good.

KtotheRoc said:

I'm having fun in the Twitch Pokémon marathon thread.

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Mods answer to ME there. They have no power.

I don't understand how this thread gets made after the IGN plagiarism thread just a couple weeks ago.

RatskyWatsky said:

Admins tried to do something to improve the site but everyone went ballistic and didn't want to give it a chance so they changed it back to the way it was after like 2 hours.

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I was so confused after the server update because I logged in at the end of the day and saw nothing has changed. Thanks for the explanation.

ZeoVGM said:

I don't understand how this thread gets made after the IGN plagiarism thread just a couple weeks ago.

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I'm thinking that some people MAY be exaggerating just a TEENY bit about how there is no fun allowed in Era.

Or maybe they should leave EtcetEra for a bit and try the dark side known as Gaming.

Vincent Alexander said:

I remember when GAF thought a webcam girl was dead....she wasn't....then started debating console graphics in her room....then got her to put a shoe on her head.

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Yeah, this shit ain't gona fly here and that's sad.
I want "I need to ly down" threads back in my life :(

I can't comprehend how someone can create this topic after the plagiarism from a IGN staff some time ago.

You know what, I'll throw my cards on the table too. I've been banned three times now.

The first time I called someone "a stan for child porn" in one of those anime game threads. That lasted a week.

The next time was for two days for accumulated warnings due to hostility (as in I was constantly being a condescending prick to people over a video game).

And finally I edited a dude's post who was defending the homophobia of Koichi Sugiyama and got banned for three days.

That last one I genuinely thought was unfair, but if I can get banned for mocking a dude who was white knighting for an old bastard who outright laughs at the prospect of queer kids committing suicide then I don't want to hear about how this place is your boogeyman for Outrage Culture PC Police Safe Space bullshit or whatever.

Handicapped Duck said:

I was so confused after the server update because I logged in at the end of the day and saw nothing has changed. Thanks for the explanation.

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Wait, the entertainment section really is gone! That feels weird. I was wondering why some threads from there were in this subforum. Guess people were too confused what goes where, or something?
I guess I went to bed too early to miss the people going ballistic over it, haha.

You know shit is bad when the plagiarism thread is the one being bandied around ad nauseum.