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CountAntonio

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think the resetera migration kind of killed OT communities because discord was such a big part of the migration. Every OT had it's own discord community and people got really close there and realized how handy a discord channel could be.So many just didn't see the use of going back to the slower more complicated forum. I don't think there is a way to bring them back and I don't think that is a terrible thing. People who want to use an OT seek it out. Maybe if anything make "Search for a community" bar at the top of hangouts or something.
 

Pancoar

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
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*Jim Sterling Voice* Prominent Members!!!!

Kinda funny that this change was supposed to promote OTs ended up doing the opposite once people started mass blocking/ignoring threads and thread creators. xD
Will people even bother unblocking/unignoring things now?

Where there is a will there is a way lol you know it's bad when people will find a workaround. Seriously, if people want to go to the OTs they will, no need to have them hog the front pages.
 

Deleted member 9838

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Oct 26, 2017
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Can someone explain the big fuss over that new section? I liked it. Nice dumping ground for the anime threads :]


(Please don't flame me I'm joking)
 

Deleted member 2652

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deltaplus in the future, how dramatically different do you see a situation like this being? specifically with how the staff delt with community feedback and communication.

"we are listening" and "as you can see, we heard you" are vastly different sentences. I want to know if the second option is your aim.
 

Deleted member 45

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Well, I'm not a prominent member of ERA despite having the "Community Resettler" tag and I was the creator of two Etc OTs but I wasn't contacted for my opinions on this navigation change.

deltaplus If Etc OTs are for shows currently airing, why was my Etc OT on the Star Trek franchise moved over to Hangouts after the navigation revert to remove the Entertainment section?: https://www.resetera.com/threads/star-trek-franchise-ot-to-boldly-go.20345/

Would you mind filing a report on the OP mentioning this? There may be some threads post reversion that may not be where they used to be.

Also, I'm a Stargate fan :P

EDIT: I just moved it to Etc.
 

Namyu

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Oct 25, 2017
1,562
You responded to my post by bringing up homophobia. I admit I was a bit reactionary, but that doesn't change the fact that homophobia was in no way part of my post, so much as the implication that the staff might be bigoted, to which you responded by saying they're lenient on homophobia. Thus implying that they don't take it very seriously.

Sure, I ended up stretching my point. But you're not far off from what I'm talking about.

I saw someone quote your post about not taking moderation seriously and just replied with what I felt was a more fitting reason. Homophobia was an example I used in criticizing the way the mod team works, not the people behind it or yourself (if they were homophobes people wouldn't be getting those 3 day/1 week bans at all)

Shauni put it well in their post, marginalized communities on here have been very vocal about how they feel in regards to moderation and the mod team just stick their fingers in their ears, like how the previous community thread was not only closed but outright deleted
 

Shauni

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm not trolling. I'm pointing out the obvious.

Make a coherent argument for why the gaming forum should exist while also arguing that the entertainment forum should not.

I mean, there's not really outside gaming being as active as it is. Logically, you could easily just turn gaming into entertainment. But I think if they even attempted that the rage they'd get from gaming side would make this look like a fart.
 

Cheerilee

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Oct 25, 2017
3,969
I think that splitting Etcetera and making six forums might be the way to go.

Videogames
Videogame Hangouts

Entertainment
Entertainment Hangouts

Etcetera
Etcetera Hangouts

It would give Entertainment threads some more room to breathe without being smothered by Disney, it would give Etcetera threads some more room to breathe without getting smothered by Trump, and it would double the potential to promote OT's from the Hangouts through the use of stickied spotlight threads.
 

mute

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Oct 25, 2017
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Only used the new layout for ~5 mins last night. Wasn't the worst thing in the world but I definitely prefer just having two main boards (videogames/other stuff) and sticking to my thread subs for whatever I want to follow in each hangout/community section. I don't really feel the need to browse those sections for whatever reason. I kinda like the mix of things as they are in Etc, and separating the "entertainment" out wasn't necessary, but what do I know.
 

J-Wood

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Oct 25, 2017
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Not sure if this is a feedback thread or not but my two cents:

I totally get where the team is coming from about stuff getting buried and not having a hanger to be active. However, I feel if you want to have an entertainment section, then you really have to go all the way. What I mean by that, is that you need to have a sub forum at that point for multiple areas. Example:

Games (not a forum, just a header)
Current releases
Hangouts and communities
Ectera (not a forum, just a header)
Movies and TV
Technology
Music
Politics
Everything else
 

Deleted member 2652

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Not sure if this is a feedback thread or not but my two cents:

I totally get where the team is coming from about stuff getting buried and not having a hanger to be active. However, I feel if you want to have an entertainment section, then you really have to go all the way. What I mean by that, is that you need to have a sub forum at that point for multiple areas. Example:

Games (not a forum, just a header)
Current releases
Hangouts and communities
Ectera (not a forum, just a header)
Entertainment
Technology
Politics
Everything else
please no
 
Oct 28, 2017
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I'm happy we're back to the video games/everything else split. It'd be great if we could ignore threads by tag in the future. I cringe every time the Muellerites celebrate the Second Advent in several threads whenever we find out about another dumb/criminal thing Trump has said/done.
 

Deleted member 176

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  • Gaming
    • Hangouts
  • Entertainment
    • Hangouts
  • Disney
    • Hangoits
  • Sports
    • Hangouts
  • Anime/Manga
    • Hangouts
  • Nintendo Gaming
    • Hangouts
  • Trump
    • Hangouts
  • EtcetEra
    • Hangouts
I think this would solve everyone's problems.
 

Deleted member 45

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Oct 24, 2017
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Quick question for yall - how do you feel about Discussion being ordered over Announcements? This was something I'd been wanting to do for a long time since it puts everything above the fold on mobile.
 

TDLink

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Oct 25, 2017
8,411
Can guarantee any attempt at this will result in another exodus turning this place into another alt-right GAF wannabe haven.
Why exactly? There is a group of people here who love discussing politics but there is a much larger group that just wants to talk about Entertainment. This is foremost an entertainment enthusiast forum. Separating out the political stuff so it doesn't mitigate threads about Entertainment isn't a bad thing. If anything it would allow greater focus on each thing for the people who enjoy whichever more.

I still think Entertainment/Etcetera is the better way to go than Etcetera/Politics for the record. After extracting Entertainment, it may leave most of Etcetera politics anyway. But there are plenty of other topics could fall under it that aren't Entertainment related, as this change originally envisioned.
 

Muffin

Member
Oct 26, 2017
10,342
It's like people don't understand why GAF lived so long. And why so many other forums declined.

We don't need to split forums further. VG and non-VG is easy and intuitive. Splitting will only make some topics practically invisible to the average user and leave one section after the other to die.
 

Lackless

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Oct 27, 2017
4,137
They should make a Political section and if you have 1,000 post in there without getting at least a warning, you get ranked up to prominent.
 

Tarot Deck

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
4,233
800 years ago, 20 OTs came together and founded the ERA Government. The descendants of these OT creators, the Prominent Members, live in the holy land mERAjois. For a commoner to even defy one will carry the cost of a Admin from mod headquarters descending to dole out punishment.

It would be funny...


If you weren't one of them





jk
 

Zubz

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Oct 25, 2017
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no
Quick question for yall - how do you feel about Discussion being ordered over Announcements? This was something I'd been wanting to do for a long time since it puts everything above the fold on mobile.

I'd honestly prefer that. It'd be a bit more convenient since announcements are threads you tend not to look at too-too much.
 

smurfx

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Oct 25, 2017
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why not just let ot communities die if they can't support themselves? why does there need to be intervention? if there aren't enough members posting to keep them alive then they should just move on to others. don't know why we needed to seriously impact etcetera just to keep them going.
 

Deleted member 176

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800 years ago, 20 OTs came together and founded the ERA Government. The descendants of these OT creators, the Prominent Members, live in the holy land mERAjois. For a commoner to even defy one will carry the cost of a Admin from mod headquarters descending to dole out punishment.
Who is our Nefertiri
 

Deleted member 2652

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Why exactly? There is a group of people here who love discussing politics but there is a much larger group that just wants to talk about Entertainment. This is foremost an entertainment enthusiast forum. Separating out the political stuff so it doesn't mitigate threads about Entertainment isn't a bad thing. If anything it would allow greater focus on each thing for the people who enjoy whichever more.

I still think Entertainment/Etcetera is the better way to go than Etcetera/Politics for the record. After extracting Entertainment, it may leave most of Etcetera politics anyway. But there are plenty of other topics could fall under it that aren't Entertainment related, as this change originally envisioned.
citation needed
 
Oct 25, 2017
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The reason this happened is a lot more mundane. We got inundated with duplicates of the same thread and decided it'd be easier to lock them all and then reopen one to consolidate all the feedback. There was some delay because after the reversion this morning, our staff was exhausted, some went to sleep after being up for 30 hours (not exaggerating), and it fell to me to decide which one to reopen. I was boarding a plane (and am currently on one) so it took a bit for me to get wifi and communicate which thread to reopen.
I very much appreciate your openness in replying to this.

To be clear, I'm not saying there IS a vast conspiracy with mods and prominent members (although we all know I should clearly be a prominent member, grumble etc.). I'm saying that the thread locks gave a very unpleasant APPEARANCE, and browsing through the thread I definitely wasn't the only one reminded of the crazy locks in the old place near the end. I don't know the best answer but I think it's important to understand and acknolwedge this for the health of the community.

*edit* As another poster mentioned, I'm curious whether the intent was to open a single thread earlier in the day since I didn't see one around 12:30 EDT, and this thread appears to have been created around 1:30 EDT if my stamps are correct.
 

Shauni

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Oct 25, 2017
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Why exactly? There is a group of people here who love discussing politics but there is a much larger group that just wants to talk about Entertainment. This is foremost an entertainment enthusiast forum. Separating out the political stuff so it doesn't mitigate threads about Entertainment isn't a bad thing. If anything it would allow greater focus on each thing for the people who enjoy whichever more.

I still think Entertainment/Etcetera is the better way to go than Etcetera/Politics for the record. After extracting Entertainment, it may leave most of Etcetera politics anyway. But there are plenty of other topics could fall under it that aren't Entertainment related, as this change originally envisioned.

I don't know for sure what's being referred to, but if I were to guess it's that the designed would obviously be made in a way to marginalize politics (whether intentionally or not), therefore marginalizing and alienating those communities that are already part of an oppressed class, and they would just all leave.
 

Deleted member 6730

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I don't think it was done with ill intent but there was a reason this setup was used on Era's predecessor for a decade and Era now.
 

funky

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Oct 25, 2017
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Ya know, there are probably ways to re-balance Etcera and Hangouts and how smaller niche threads are handled other then completely upending the forum structure.

If Hangouts just because for the BIG threads that are very active and smaller less active threads could linger in the main side so when they get bumped people notice would anyone care?
 

Mass_Pincup

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Oct 25, 2017
7,129
Alright, that I can see. What I don't see is which of those threads would count as political enough to be cordoned off?


For me, Trump thread in general or Brexit thread regarding news on policies, think piece or opinion threads on policies and future trends would be in a politics section. Those threads are strictly political and don't really offer much beyond that. But a thread on the effect of Brexit in gaming, Trump's policies effect on game sales, the rise of women as main protagonist and any political idea relating to games or entertainment would be in Gaming or Etcera.
 

Deleted member 4260

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I'll say one last thing to the staff before I bow out of this thread: I said some things previously in the other thread last night that implied that you were separating Etc in order to please the alt-right/incels/whatever. I shouldn't have said those things, it wasn't cool and I regret it. Just the lack of communication just made the whole thing frustrating. Plus it was late and I was tired.

Anyways, later guys. Love you all.
 

Deleted member 176

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Ya know, there are probably ways to re-balance Etcera and Hangouts and how smaller niche threads are handled other then completely upending the forum structure.

If Hangouts just because for the BIG threads that are very active and smaller less active threads could linger in the main side would anyone care?
Even if people did care you could just add a hide thread button. If you get pissed off about a bicycling thread occasionally being on page 1 you're not gonna post in the bicycling thread.