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Are you not entertained? Or: let's talk about the restructuring
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Huh. Well that's a pretty drastic change to get them in the forefront. Tbh I would only go to the OTs pages to find certain ones I was interested in and follow them from there .Seemed like a better system to me than cluttering the entire forum with all of the ones I'm not interested in.
That behavior is an immediate sign that the three-forum setup may not work even with the OT issue fixed.
Ironically, this thread is full of people (including myself) asking how to hide the OTs, and the answer seems to be ignoring prominent members lol
Nah, Gaming pretty much pushed politics out of its side by and large.
Well, there has been the announcement thread which offered room for feedback, but I won't pretend as if the framing of the thread encouraged detailed and thought out feedback. It also probably did not help that the time between the announcement and the execution has been short.
The next big change will be 2.0 which is more of a visual change but will also incorporate some new neat features as well. There will be a feedback thread as well, and I will make sure to have more overall community involvement in decisions and to have those feedback threads.
The only "hilarious" thing here is that a) you accuse us of not giving a fuck despite me being here responding and staff reading the feedback as well and b) this basically serving as a feedback thread, and even if this thread would not exist, I'm pretty sure our members would find ways to make their voices heard. This could have been managed better, but those grand statements you are trying to make are making my eyes roll more than anything
Like are you just here to to be a L magnet or what
Appreciated Spyder
First off, thanks for taking the time to articulating your thoughts in such constructive manner - definitely a welcome change in a sea of hot takes and GIFs (which I don't mind, but I appreciate these more serious posts)
What the staff and myself stand behind is the interest in helping to create a better atmosphere on the forum and the restructuring was one proposed solution to that ([quote and add snarky reply here]).
At first I wasn't sure about it because our members are probably way too used to the old structure, but when I saw the data, I did not have any major objections and was ready to give it at least a shot. I have to admit that I didn't expect people to feel *this* strongly about it, but reading the replies I understand that we misread your priorities when it comes to this forum and that I at least will make an effort to make your voices heard in the future.
As for the rest of the staff, most admins and mods agreed to give this a try at least as well. Some raised similar concerns as some people did in this thread, and emphasized that they do not want a "no politics" zone in Entertainment. Again, I don't think most of them expected the response, but as you have already outlined in your post, we could have done a way better job of proposing this idea.
I agree that the time window we gave to the community from the announcement to the execution was not fair and should have been done differently. I'll also make sure to communicate more stuff in the future
I think I can agree with his observation as well; thanks for your input Monk
I mean y'all don't even have this pinned, haven't changed the title, or the poll, like come on. You should know how to read the room.
That eye blinding purple on the new themes has been widely criticized across the board. It hasn't been altered or even spoken about in months. Don't get your hopes up.
This is the worst. First the new shitty themes, now this? ERA admins what the fuck are you doing?????
Damn, I never did get a Gold account at the old place, now it turns out I'd been denied membership into the "Prominent Member" class of this forum as well. Life ain't fair, I tell you.
Yup, this is how I feel. They need to either consult the community more or drop the "transparent, for the community" spiel and just do whatever they want. The current setup doesn't seem to be pleasing most people.
When I first logged on and accidentally hit the entertainment section because of muscle memory, I saw this thread title and assumed it was a shitpost.
Did none of you seriously consider how this change would only compound this non-problem? The quieter OTs will only sink faster and faster as the busier OT and new threads push them further down. How are people expected to come across the Palaeontology OT now it's gone from being three pages back under the old system, to twenty-three pages back under this system?
Reverse it. Add a thread ignore feature for those who want it after.
Is the failed feedback thread the one that went up with the announcement, a mere two days before the change?
Also, how long was the thread open for before being locked?
Also, why was the post count of the thread hidden?
In accordance with transparency, can we please get a list of the Prominent Members?
I agree, epecially since OT creators are getting ignored to make the forum more usable.
Yep. And they'll come back with "Well you didn't have to join this forum", but since they were essentially the first to market they sort of got to lay claim to all the strong communities looking for an immediate home following the exodus.
It was real smart of them to canvas the community discords and whatnot so quickly and so thoroughly, but I think so many of us bought on to this site in that initial excitement based on promises or expectations that they're struggling to meet. And I know that's not part of their official End User License Agreements or whatnot, but the initial promise was what built the userbase of this site, first and foremost.
Listening to the users first and acting upon their voices should be the cornerstone of this site.
Nah it was thought out. They just don't want any real feedback at the end of the day
Then may this please be stickied so people can easily find it?
You are the only person so far to have actually interacted in a way that acknowledges feedback rather than talks over it out of the admin team, and it's very much appreciated.
Thanks, I genuinely appreciate that for changes made in the future.
In regards to the current change, are the admins planning to circle back and reevaluate what's been done?
Yes, this kind of back & forth is super important and definitely appreciated.
Can y'all even tell us who the "prominent community figures" were that contributed to this current decision? How were they chosen? What was the input process like and for how long did it last before the decision to go-ahead was made? The lack of transparency on this particular part feels quite awful for us apparently non-important community members (aka, most of the users on the site).
nah, negative thread is bad optics for lurkers who then may click on a stickied feedback thread
if you're going to make a major change on how this site runs you don't use prominent members. You have a a thread that everyone can post in or have a simple Poll. cuz I don't know who the prominent members are they could be anybody you haven't told us. We don't know how many they are , we don't know what their goals are, we know nothing. Hell I'm probably probably remember since I'm a major part of multiple communities and I was shot this down immediately.
Etcetera was a great news aggregate, but now this is all just so blah. A culmative hangouts section, with an entertainment and news/random etcetera split would have been the far better solution, but now its a flood of OTs with no chance in hell to find things to read at an acceptable pace. I'm used to browsing through the sub sections and opening tabs to read, but now its a case by case situation, getting bored far faster. - 100/10, its that bad.
Or at least put this one in both of the Entertainment and Etcetera sections.
Nah dawg, papa Nibel knows better than a common user like yourself
I guess the good news is this could really help my productivity.
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