Soapbox: Why I Prefer Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate To World

lmao So in the end it's better for him, because it's on his favourite platform and MH: World isn't. Nice one.

Well the site's name is Nintendolife so...

both games are great; people always have to polarize themselfs like wtf for..

i had 60 hours in MHXX (just hiragana and kanji exhausted me but finished G4:).
i had 120 hours in MHW (will have more after G expansion)
now playing MHGU

I dont care about any hardware fans opinions because it is always biased.

I could play MH on my fridge if they release it. I play games dont care about HW religions. And to be honest - Nintendo fans are kinda the worst here.

I already have an uncomfortable feeling ITT. Doesn't feel like it's been made in good faith at all. It's just one person's opinion- no need to laugh at them for it at all.

Edit: and of course people are not reading even the subheading and realising that it is a reader who wrote the article. Of course.

Expected from a site called nintendolife

I bet they gave all nintendo games like 9-10

"Ungodly combo attacks" is one of the most hilarious phrases I've read.

I thought this article would be about how Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate has way more content or something but this is something else.

Clocked in 100s of hours in both games, MHXX has more content but World does everything else better. Once World or successive games reach the same monster/map count its a no-brainer.

Monster Hunter: World was the first Monster Hunter game that really clicked for me. I liked MH4U, but I dropped it rather quickly.

I use the insect glaive now, and basically that's it. I picked up the insect glaive in MHGU, and immediately dropped the game. The kinsect only flies in 2 dimensions with the fly forward command, and there's only one aerial attack as far as I'm aware. I'm used to spending like 90% of fights in the air.

I love just how much content is in both MH4U and MHGU, and hopefully we'll eventually get a package like that out of this new modern MH, but MHW made a lot of changes for the better.

I thought the author would go into it being on a portable device more than they did, which I get, since that's the reason I would prefer GU to World, but... he/she complains about things that make no sense like the load times being worse in GU (I pretty much stopped playing World because of the constant loading).

What a weird article.

Played a few hundret hours of World, played a few hundret hours of XX and currently playing GU. I like them all but World is definitely the future of the franchise.

If the author hasn't really played World, this articel is nothing more than pathetic fanboy bs.

It'd be nice if he used facts in his article, or arguments about his opinion based on empirical things, but this article is just... yeeaaaaaahhhhhhhh.

As someone who has not played a MH game since portable Tri I can say that World has some (serious) problems with the core of what a Monster Hunter game should be but this article seems like junk. What ungodly combo attacks? Does he mean Dualies? I am pretty sure they work almost the same in GU as they did in World and pretty much every MH game since.

So basically the author likes old style MH so he preferred Gen Ultimate over World.

Preferring the closed in zones because they give the illusion of being bigger seems super weird because World actually does all that to a much better degree but ultimately, it's the authors choice.

Uhhh... Getting the vibe that this fella hasn't played World (and XX) enough. You can't run around full speed with an unsheathed GS in MHW. And classic GS is totally viable if you spec focus and critical draw. What's this about blocking without sheathing? In both MHG, World, and all the others you can block while unsheathed and sheathed. Complaining about flashy attacks in World too. As opposed to XX, where the attacks are definitely not flashy at all... "Difficult to pull off" and "risk/reward" is exactly how the new World style GS plays. Maybe the writer accidentally picked up a switchaxe or longsword? I have no other explanation.

There are plenty of reasons to like XX over World (and I could agree with many of them), but this article seems really badly informed.

Raijinto said:

I already have an uncomfortable feeling ITT. Doesn't feel like it's been made in good faith at all. It's just one person's opinion- no need to laugh at them for it at all.

Edit: and of course people are not reading even the subheading and realising that it is a reader who wrote the article. Of course.

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If the writer's opinion was at least grounded in reality, it'd be less divisive. As it stands, it comes across as a bitter hit piece. Regarding people commenting about Nintendolife, maybe unwarranted but the writer is their Guides Editor, not a reader by the looks of it? The ending paragraph is also practically inviting vitriol. I suspect the response here is exactly what they intended.

Soapbox features enable our individual writers to voice their own opinions on hot topics, opinions that may not necessarily be the voice of the site. In this piece, guides editor Glen outlines why he's in love with Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate, despite the allure of the next-gen 'MonHun' experience on other formats...

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I must've been playing wrong then, because I used Greatsword for 50+ hours in World, and I was slow as a snail with my sword unsheathed lol

I have to wonder why even make this thread at all, unless you just want us to shit on this dude nobody here knows.

I actually prefer classic Monster Hunter to the 'bells and whistles' new Monster Hunter.

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I too prefer the classic Brave GS with its 5 billion frame parry into sheathe, fast charge draw slash and Moon Breaker.

Generations Ultimate has longer loading times than World?

How?

Kaguya said:

Nintendolife had this article recently, and it's an interesting piece. The writer is explaining why he prefer GU over World, which there plenty of reasons for anyone to do so, except in this case, the writer obviously have never played MH:W. :)

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And I'll admit, when Monster Hunter: World rolled around, I was a day one buyer. What wasn't to love? It was gorgeous, the environments were more open than before, it was much easier to play with friends, and the combat looked livelier than ever before. I spent months playing it deep into the night, obsessively crafting new gear, exploring new areas, and trying to make my character look as awesome as possible. This is the Monster Hunter I always wanted! Just like the good old days, I thought.

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So...are you saying he's a liar?

But yeah, it's Nintendo Life, so it's whatever.

On one hand I can see why someone would prefer generations over world.

On the other hand it's a site called Nintendolife comparing a Nintendo exclusive to an exclusively non Nintendo game.

Reminds me of a time when a friend was super excited because a magazine called maclife (or something like that) was positive on a new MacBook...

It's portable MH - that fact automatically makes it 10 times better than World.

Saw it earlier and thought it's gonna be a good joke,it certainly exceeded my expectations lol

While MHW does have it's flaws,so does Gen/GU,that aside,both are still great games

Imitatio said:

It's portable MH - that fact automatically makes it 10 times better than World.

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For you.

Ive already played Generations on 3DS, I still like World better.

For me: World - MH4U >>>>>>>>>>>>> Generations - Generations Ultimate

Kaguya said:

There's nothing wrong with opinions, there's something wrong with straight up lying about a game they haven't played though.

Edit: if you haven't played Word, he mentions being able to run at full speed with your weapon unsheathed(he's a GS user) which is just a wrong, mention World having flashy combos, when it's way more grounded and less flashy than GU.

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Complaining about GS mobility in world when Valor GS makes it way more mobile than World by a wide margin is really funny.

Kaguya said:

Nintendolife had this article recently, and it's an interesting piece. The writer is explaining why he prefer GU over World, which there plenty of reasons for anyone to do so, except in this case, the writer obviously have never played MH:W. :)

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Lol so you posted this because of the saltiness? he has played mhw.

John Bender said:

lmao So in the end it's better for him, because it's on his favourite platform and MH: World isn't. Nice one.

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no. generation ultimate has 30x more contents than MHW and is a better skill game, that's the point.

Even when everyone is now able to play mh one way or another, people still find ways to argue.

They both have their ups and downs, I'm enjoying myself with Valor style LBG/HBG in MHGU atm.

Don't know what's worse, people posting without reading here or the reviewer that didn't play any of the games he talked about.

Also, posting without reading the OP should be at least penalty worthy.

What does he mean it lets you block without sheathing? I'm pretty sure you can use block unsheathed in every Monster Hunter with the greatsword. And you could always do combos with it as well, the new addition is the integration of the shoulder bash to let you continue comboing even if you get hit and the super slow fully charged combo that you'll only use in certain situations. And no you can't run fullspeed with the greatsword pulled out, maybe he got confused with the longsword (with which you could always move at a brisk pace) or something since he doesn't seem to know what he's talking about? Anyway, why single this weird thing out? To ridicule everyone who likes GU as similarly absurd? There are legit reasons to like pre-World monhun more than World. Hell, there are even legit reasons to like pre-Generations/X monhun over that. Tri is my most favorite in the series but 4/U also looks like a solid choice if you want a proper adventure over this best-of remix deal and/or don't like some of the bigger changes in World (bigger changes not being the qol updates or the seamless maps, obviously) and/or didn't like swimming so Tri/U can't be your favorite (I loved it).

Bastos said:

Don't know what's worse, people posting without reading here or the reviewer that didn't play any of the games he talked about.

Also, posting without reading the OP should be at least penalty worthy.

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He is not a reviewer. The article is not a review.

As someone who played 200 hours of World, I find that line about running full speed with an unsheathed Greatsword hilarious. And I played with a Greatsword myself.

This is like spiteful fan fiction.

These anecdotes remind me of the people who complained before reveal about a story centric MH with lots of quick time events. But that can be excused because of a poorly informed leaker. This is way more impressive. The game is out and the person gets paid to write about a game he ignored.

Al3x1s said:

What does he mean it lets you block without sheathing? I'm pretty sure you can block unsheathed in every Monster Hunter with the Greatsword. Anyway, why single this thing out? To ridicule everyone who likes GU as similarly absurd? There are legit reasons to like pre-World monhun more than World. There are even legit reasons to like pre-Generations/X monhun over that. Tri is my most favorite but 4/U also looks like a solid choice if you want a proper adventure feel over this best-of remix deal of G or don't like some of the bigger changes in World (bigger changes not being the qol updates or the seamless maps, obviously).

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MHGU Valor style lets GS parry an attack with the sheathe button and then auto-sheathes is what I assume he's comparing MHW GS to. Valor GS actually still has the standard guard on ZR that MHW GS has.

The irony is he says he likes MHGU cause it's "classic" MH but poops on the MHW GS that's much closer to classic GS than Valor GS (rip critdraw though). Also, Valor GS does let you dash around while unsheathed lol.

Clearly didn't play the game, there are a lot of baseline facts just straight up wrong.

Wander_ said:

Lol so you posted this because of the saltiness? he has played mhw.

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What makes you so sure?

Apparently in the comments it has been clarified that the author both played and reviewed MHW for NL's partner site PushSquare- and gave it an 8/10 FWIW.

What a twist.

Your move OP. Still a liar..?

I've already put in more hours into GU than World because I'm not home or present to my console long enough for long hunting sessions, and GU allows me to play with my girlfriend.

But I guess that makes me a huge throbbing Nintendo fanboy, huh.

NoKisum said:

I've already put in more hours into GU than World because I'm not home or present to my console long enough for long hunting sessions, and GU allows me to play with my girlfriend.

But I guess that makes me a huge throbbing Nintendo fanboy, huh.

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Who are you replying to exactly?

The thread sounds a little like bashing on the article (which yeah, it's not that great), but personally i don't think it's that absurd preferring Generations Ultimate over World, simply because of the contents, and in general the old formula of MH that completely change in World.

Fanboyism is toxic both ways, even forcing people to convince that World is the better option for all players period is wrong too.

Let's put it this way: if you are used to play only as a Prowler, Monster Hunter World becomes immediately a hard pass for you.

Hold the fuck up, has this person even played World. I can't believe I'm reading this.

He complains about "ungodly combos" in World and wanting "careful, considered" attacks yet praises Generations Ultimate, which is basically anime?

The bias is crazy. Generations is an incredible game, but there's clearly an agenda here.

Raijinto said:

Apparently in the comments it has been clarified that the author both played and reviewed MHW for NL's partner site PushSquare- and gave it an 8/10 FWIW.

What a twist.

Your move OP. Still a liar..?

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I have trouble believing he could play the game and get these basic facts incorrect. If he did play the game (you can fabricate a review without doing so) then he's absolutely terrible at retaining even baseline knowledge about the experience or doing research and probably isn't the man to write about it.

He calls the scout flies "fire flies" like 6 times. Do they not have a fact checker or editor at that site? How do you write and publish an article that shits on mechanics that you don't even know the name of?

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Apparently in the comments it has been clarified that the author both played and reviewed MHW for NL's partner site PushSquare- and gave it an 8/10 FWIW.

What a twist.

Your move OP. Still a liar..?

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He should explain how he got the facts that badly then.

Raijinto said:

Apparently in the comments it has been clarified that the author both played and reviewed MHW for NL's partner site PushSquare- and gave it an 8/10 FWIW.

What a twist.

Your move OP. Still a liar..?

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If you played both GU/XX and World, you could not make those claims about GS mechanics in the article. So if the writer played them, they either have bad memory or were intentionally trying to stir up shit.

Took a moment to read the review on Push Square. I never really doubted he played it and won't delve into conspiracy theory as that's pointless. The review reads like a checklist description of back-of-the-box features with a number slapped onto the end of it for good measure. So now it's not surprising that his comparison is as shallow and misinformed as it is.

Death Penalty said:

I have trouble believing he could play the game and get these basic facts incorrect. If he did play the game (you can fabricate a review without doing so) then he's absolutely terrible at retaining even baseline knowledge about the experience or doing research and probably isn't the man to write about it.

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OK now we're really into conspiracy territory here. You really need evidence for this sorta claim.

Also

You also gain power in exactly the same way – defeat a monster and use its resources to fuel your increase in power to go and defeat more monsters. Heck, the combat system is even basically the same

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No, thats not how Dark Souls works.

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OK now we're really into conspiracy territory here. You really need evidence for this sorta claim.

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Conspiracy theory? I'm not actually accusing him of anything, I'm saying that if he did play the game and still came away with these impressions they're pretty ludicrous impressions to have which the bolded was meant to emphasize. There's plenty of reasons to criticize MHW, but most of his talking points are complete falsehoods. I'm not making any actual assumptions- he could just be completely terrible at retaining basic information about games he plays.

Can you actually account for those falsehoods or are you just going to shake your head at people in this thread who find them so strange?

I don't like how the article is written but I greatly prefer MHGU over World for a few simple reasons:

- Amount of content
- Variety of monsters
- Less downtime in MHGU (MHW open level design leads to way too much running and it feels like a time waster)
- Portability

I like MHW but I feel like they added a lot of AAA bloat into the franchise that simply wasn't needed. MHGU gives me the immediate satisfaction I need when playing a MonHun game.