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Who will win?

  • King Push

    Votes: 780 63.2%
  • 6 God

    Votes: 172 13.9%
  • OVO Sweatshop

    Votes: 123 10.0%
  • EGHCK!

    Votes: 160 13.0%

  • Total voters
    1,235

a916

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Oct 25, 2017
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What HEAD dude? Pusha T isn't some goon that Kanye sends to do his dirty work. Pusha T hates Drake all on himself. Stop making excuses for Drake.

Lmao you think I'm making excuses for Drake? Please...

Kanye is the founder/executive producer and most likely the owner of that label lol. But keep ducking that... no one said Kanye sent out Pusha T, so how about you not try to put words in my mouth.
 

Jest

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Oct 28, 2017
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Lmao you think I'm making excuses for Drake? Please...

Kanye is the founder/executive producer and most likely the owner of that label lol. But keep ducking that... no one said Kanye sent out Pusha T, so how about you not try to put words in my mouth.

You are insinuating that Kanye is giving orders to, or manipulating Pusha when you say that Pusha is Kanye's "Pawn." If you're only trying to talk about their relative power within GOOD Music, then it's a bad metaphor to use AND it still doesn't make any sense because this isn't GOOD vs. OVO or GOOD vs. YMCM. It's Push saying what he wants about who he wants and that's it.
 

PhoenixDark

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Oct 25, 2017
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Imagine having to come up with an elaborate conspiracy theory to explain why your man didn't really get embarrassed in a rap battle, he actually won but you have to be reallly smart to realize it. lmaooo

I doubt there are many dudes in entertainment who didn't fuck Kim, pre-Kanye. She was community pussy. If you're black and had some type of success in music or film over the last 10 years, the odds of you fucking a Kardashian are probably higher than the odds of you having a family member with high blood pressure.
 

Boxy Brown

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Oct 27, 2017
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Lmao you think I'm making excuses for Drake? Please...

Kanye is the founder/executive producer and most likely the owner of that label lol. But keep ducking that... no one said Kanye sent out Pusha T, so how about you not try to put words in my mouth.
Then what are you trying to say exactly?! Pusha T, the current President of GOOD MUSIC, has been sending shots at Drake. Drake finally responded, and got clowned. Now he's going after Kanye for some reason. All you can say is this is some sabotage of kind with no evidence to the contrary. Making Pusha T seem like some cog in the machine against Drake by Kanye. If I'm not on the mark please correct me.
 

lacer

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Oct 25, 2017
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you guys are both kinda right? Pusha is the president, but Kanye still picked his artwork. not crazy to suggest that Ye is at the top of the company imo

to be clear i don't think Kanye is pulling strings or anything as Push has been sparring with Young Money for like a decade
 

a916

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Oct 25, 2017
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You are insinuating that Kanye is giving orders to, or manipulating Pusha when you say that Pusha is Kanye's "Pawn." If you're only trying to talk about their relative power within GOOD Music, then it's a bad metaphor to use AND it still doesn't make any sense because this isn't GOOD vs. OVO or GOOD vs. YMCM. It's Push saying what he wants about who he wants and that's it.

The thread is literally titled GOOD Music vs Drake...

No doubt Pusha T is doing this on his own accord, don't even think this is personal to him either no matter how much he says that fiance line stung, he sounds like he's doing it for the sport of it. Drake caught the L and moved on.

Then what are you trying to say exactly?! Pusha T, the current President of GOOD MUSIC, has been sending shots at Drake. Drake finally responded, and got clowned. Now he's going after Kanye for some reason. All you can say is this is some sabotage of kind with no evidence to the contrary. Making Pusha T seem like some cog in the machine against Drake by Kanye. If I'm not on the mark please correct me.

Alright, I'll try to break it down for you in simpler terms.

Pusha T and Drake beef isn't personal (definitely wasn't until the fiance line and I don't even think Pusha T still considers it personal... but who knows now, he sounded like he treated it as a sport). He took the L and moved on.

There's some weird beef/pseudo beef between Drake and Kanye dating back since way back. To Drake, it sounds like it's more personal against Kanye. The whole Wyoming thing, probably makes Drake hate him even more.

Tell me where I lost you....
 

Jest

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Oct 28, 2017
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you guys are both kinda right? Pusha is the president, but Kanye still picked his artwork. not crazy to suggest that Ye is at the top of the company imo

Push had a whole album ready to go but dropped it when Kanye listened to it and said he wanted to work with him. The power structure isn't as linear as you would think because while Ye' owns the label, he takes part in none of the day to day and only really steps in when he wants to do something creatively with the artists. Everyone listens to Ye' because they respect him and his creative vision.

The thread is literally titled GOOD Music vs Drake...

No doubt Pusha T is doing this on his own accord, don't even think this is personal to him either no matter how much he says that fiance line stung, he sounds like he's doing it for the sport of it. Drake caught the L and moved on.

The thread could be titled "Scoop de Poop" and it would still have nothing to do with what *actually* happened. The bottom line is the power structure of GOOD music has nothing to do with any of this.
 

a916

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Oct 25, 2017
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Push had a whole album ready to go but dropped it when Kanye listened to it and said he wanted to work with him. The power structure isn't as linear as you would think because while Ye' owns the label, he takes part in none of the day to day and only really steps in when he wants to do something creatively with the artists. Everyone listens to Ye' because they respect him and his creative vision.



The thread could be titled "Scoop de Poop" and it would still have nothing to do with what *actually* happened. The bottom line is the power structure of GOOD music has nothing to do with any of this.

Sounds like the head of the family.

Also, the power structure has nothing to do with it, other than maybe Drake looks at Kanye and goes that's your man, f you and f him too.
 

Jest

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Oct 28, 2017
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Sounds like the head of the family.

Also, the power structure has nothing to do with it, other than maybe Drake looks at Kanye and goes that's your man, f you and f him too.

No, it's just artists respecting other creatives. By your logic Rick Rubin is the "Head of the Family" for half of the most influential artists and groups in Hip Hop.
 

a916

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Oct 25, 2017
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No, it's just artists respecting other creatives. By your logic Rick Rubin is the "Head of the Family" for half of the most influential artists and groups in Hip Hop.

Rubin isn't the founder or owner or executive producer like Kanye is in this situation, that's a terrible example.
 

Jest

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Oct 28, 2017
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Rubin isn't the founder or owner or executive producer like Kanye is in this situation.

Rubin has Exec Produced for at least half the most influential artists in Hip Hop. Being a Founder or even an Owner doesn't always mean you're in direct control of a business. Corporate power structures are more complex than that. GOOD Music, for example was Co-Founded with Sony BMG and is currently an subsidiary of UMG distributed out of Def Jam and Virgin. It's not as simple as "Ye is the boss and everyone is under him."
 

a916

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Oct 25, 2017
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Rubin has Exec Produced for at least half the most influential artists in Hip Hop. Being a Founder or even an Owner doesn't always mean you're in direct control of a business. Corporate power structures are more complex than that. GOOD Music, for example was Co-Founded with Sony BMG and is currently an subsidiary of UMG distributed out of Def Jam and Virgin. It's not as simple as "Ye is the boss and everyone is under him."

Definitely feels that, he may not be running the day to day, but if he says something I feel like that's how it's going to go. Even then, this is a side tangent.
 

wisdom0wl

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Oct 26, 2017
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lacer

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Oct 25, 2017
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Good lord, if you want to drag Drake, all you have to do is talk about Scorpion's quality. You don't have to make conspiracy theories lol.
actually this is a last ditch effort to say Drake actually won the beef because Scorpion is actually an entire album filled with subliminals about how he slept with Kim
 

Mary Celeste

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Oct 25, 2017
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Kanye is so jealous of Drake, its pathetic
doesn't matter what Kanye thinks, Push is the one who killed Drake. There's no reason to talk about Kanye in this at all. The instant you try to deflect from the actual beef into some weird Kanye v Drake shenanigans you're admitting defeat.

Not referring to you in particular, just a general statement towards OVO stans I guess
 

a916

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Oct 25, 2017
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doesn't matter what Kanye thinks, Push is the one who killed Drake. There's no reason to talk about Kanye in this at all. The instant you try to deflect from the actual beef into some weird Kanye v Drake shenanigans you're admitting defeat.

Not referring to you in particular, just a general statement towards OVO stans I guess

The beef was over after Pusha T dropped his response lol... and what? Since when is Kanye off limits? lol
 

Mary Celeste

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Oct 25, 2017
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The beef was over after Pusha T dropped his response lol... and what? Since when is Kanye off limits? lol
he's not, but this particular beef was between Pusha and Drake. moving goalposts with regards to the Pusha and Drake beef just makes it a bigger L. there's plenty of shit to take Kanye to task for outside of this skirmish.
 

a916

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Oct 25, 2017
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he's not, but this particular beef was between Pusha and Drake. moving goalposts with regards to the Pusha and Drake beef just makes it a bigger L. there's plenty of shit to take Kanye to task for outside of this skirmish.

Is it moving goal posts? I feel like they've been dropping subliminals at each other for a while... that was the rumor all the way up until Kanye showed up at OVO Fest. That beef may not have been overt, but it's been simmering there in the background.
 

Trafalgar Law

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Nov 6, 2017
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Lmao you think I'm making excuses for Drake? Please...

Kanye is the founder/executive producer and most likely the owner of that label lol. But keep ducking that... no one said Kanye sent out Pusha T, so how about you not try to put words in my mouth.

LET ME BREAK THIS DOWN AGAIN

Drake lost to pusha t , this ruse ti go at kanye doesn't change that or alter his L
Drake conceded ducked it and now is throwing subliminal, ITS LAME AS HELL , pusha murked , yeah well but i smashed kim , yeah well who cares a woman had sex with you , big whoop
What about that big fat L from pusha that you swallowed and dented your image , he lost and the constant oh but kanye , who cares , drake said he was done but been a slimy loser about it
 

a916

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Oct 25, 2017
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LET ME BREAK THIS DOWN AGAIN

Drake lost to pusha t , this ruse ti go at kanye doesn't change that or alter his L
Drake conceded ducked it and now is throwing subliminal, ITS LAME AS HELL , pusha murked , yeah well but i smashed kim , yeah well who cares a woman had sex with you , big whoop
What about that big fat L from pusha that you swallowed and dented your image , he lost and the constant oh but kanye , who cares , drake said he was done but been a slimy loser about it

No one said it does
 
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gogosox82

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Oct 25, 2017
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Is it moving goal posts? I feel like they've been dropping subliminals at each other for a while... that was the rumor all the way up until Kanye showed up at OVO Fest. That beef may not have been overt, but it's been simmering there in the background.

Since that's not what the beef is about who cares.
 
Nov 8, 2017
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My issue is why does everyone keep bringing up drake vs kanye

PUSHA T WRECKED HIS SHIT AND EVERYONE IS DEFLECTING
The problem is, Drake's diss track was aimed at Kanye as much as it was Push. Drake name dropping Push's girl at the end is what set him off. But there were as many bars aimed at Kanye if you pay attention. Joe Budden even said he believed it was more of a Kanye diss track than one aimed at Push
 
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Imagine having to come up with an elaborate conspiracy theory to explain why your man didn't really get embarrassed in a rap battle, he actually won but you have to be reallly smart to realize it. lmaooo

I doubt there are many dudes in entertainment who didn't fuck Kim, pre-Kanye. She was community pussy. If you're black and had some type of success in music or film over the last 10 years, the odds of you fucking a Kardashian are probably higher than the odds of you having a family member with high blood pressure.

Wow.

Why would someone even post something this vile?
 

Byakuya769

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Oct 29, 2017
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Lol, Phoenixdark.

Tho not sure why describing the behavior of one individual is misogyny.
 
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And what lol

Ye admitted hes jealous Drake the biggest rapper. Said in the last interview hes mad no ones playing his shit but they playing Drake

Then he started crying about Don C who was with Drake a day earlier lmao



Which is highkey stupid considering Ye has clearly stopped giving af about being the biggest rapper since Yeezus. Yeezus was quite experimental, TLOP was a tidal exclusive and none of his 2018 albums sound remotely mainstream.

Action speak louder than words and it's kinda obvious his mindset and long term goals aren't in music anymore.
 

Cipherr

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Oct 26, 2017
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Kanye hasn't stopped caring at all. Im sure even he wishes he could convince people that he doesn't care but anyone paying attention know this guy does, and always has cared a great deal about how he is viewed.
 

Red_

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Oct 26, 2017
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Man is really still going... "I told her don't wear no 350s 'round me" .... Dude, this shit really making me not wanna even pump Scorpion. He really dodged Pusha and continues to bully a mentally unstable man.
That's what makes you want to dodge Scorpion? Not the fact that it's a garbage album full of filler bullshit? Drake is a corny fake who's riding on popularity, there's nothing anyone can do about that. It is what it is, anyone who's paid attention to this knows Push came out on top.
 

Darryl M R

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Man is really still going... "I told her don't wear no 350s 'round me" .... Dude, this shit really making me not wanna even pump Scorpion. He really dodged Pusha and continues to bully a mentally unstable man.
If you're in the camp that the beef is really with Kanye and Pusha inserted himself for zero reason then Drake isn't really dodging. I don't know how much Joe Budden might exaggerate but he has always stated that it is Drake v Kanye.
 
That's what makes you want to dodge Scorpion? Not the fact that it's a garbage album full of filler bullshit? Drake is a corny fake who's riding on popularity, there's nothing anyone can do about that. It is what it is, anyone who's paid attention to this knows Push came out on top.

I actually really fuck with the album.

If you're in the camp that the beef is really with Kanye and Pusha inserted himself for zero reason then Drake isn't really dodging. I don't know how much Joe Budden might exaggerate but he has always stated that it is Drake v Kanye.

I feel like it's been Pusha provoking Drake for over like 5+ years. So for Drake to finally respond and then just ultimately sidestep Pusha and focus on Ye is so corny. These two were about to drop an album together so to make it out as if Ye is somehow his immortal enemy is just so corny of him.

350s >>>>>> anything OVO x Nike has ever done

Which makes the line so ridiculous. Yeezy's sneakers (Nikes+Adidas+LV) are untouchable and will go down in history. Mind you, nobody is looking out for OVO jays anymore.