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Chairmanchuck (另一个我)

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I think this deserves a new thread:



8 days ago Mario ran at 5-10fps. 4 Days ago at 20-45. Now after everythings loaded (after 2 minutes) in the Emulator, it runs at 50-60fps.

One Piece runs at an almost stable 60fps and looks good for an emulator that is like 8 months old.
Big update for 2d and 3d rendering.

I am actually wondering when it will render games like Mario well and how it would look in 4k.

Thanks to lashman
 

ASarafanov

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God, piracy is cancer of the industry. Nintendo games should be played on Nintendo platforms, Sony game should be played on Sony platforms, Xbox Games on Microsoft platforms... Not via emulators with illegal roms...
 

Noppie

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Took 4 posts before the piracy debate started. New record?

Impressive development.
 

GhostTrick

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God, piracy is cancer of the industry. Nintendo games should be played on Nintendo platforms, Sony game should be played on Sony platforms, Xbox Games on Microsoft platforms... Not via emulators with illegal roms...



Cancer of the industry is corporate fans.
Who are willing to excuse everything for their favorite companies. And who believes Software from X brand should be played in hardware from X brand and not Y brand.

You're being emotional about a piece of plastic.
 

Rival

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God, piracy is cancer of the industry. Nintendo games should be played on Nintendo platforms, Sony game should be played on Sony platforms, Xbox Games on Microsoft platforms... Not via emulators with illegal roms...

My Switch is right next to my computer, so help me god if you think I won't be playing Xenoblade 2 emulated on my pc
 
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Chairmanchuck (另一个我)

Chairmanchuck (另一个我)

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God, piracy is cancer of the industry. Nintendo games should be played on Nintendo platforms, Sony game should be played on Sony platforms, Xbox Games on Microsoft platforms... Not via emulators with illegal roms...

But apparently you want to have other multiplattform games on Switch judging by your thread title:

Can we expect more new, smaller multiplatform games coming to Switch day 1 from here on?

Just buy those games on the other plattform. They should be played on there!
 

Roytheone

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Very impressive progress, the architecture of the switch being pretty understood before it even came out has to help with this doesn't it?


Btw, Is the emulators = piracy talk against the rules here like it was on old gaf? Helped those discussions from getting derailed.
 

GhostTrick

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Piracy affects potential sales of games.
But of course pirates love to point out that they would never have bought the game in the first place.



If you're concerned about piracy, be worried about the Switch being wide open.
If someone wants to download games illegally, what do you think is the easier solution for them ?
1. Buy a Switch for 300 bucks and a 5 dollars piece of plastic to hack it and play every games released and releasing on day one for free at fullspeed
2. Use an emulator that requires a 400 bucks CPU and a 300 bucks GPU that can barely play a few games at slow speed with graphical issues
 

Richter1887

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Really impressive.

Might buy the game and emulate it when I get a PC.

But then again, the game is very expansive so I might not even get the game or emulate it.
 

Neo0mj

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If you're concerned about piracy, be worried about the Switch being wide open.
If someone wants to download games illegally, what do you think is the easier solution for them ?
1. Buy a Switch for 300 bucks and a 5 dollars piece of plastic to hack it and play every games released and releasing on day one for free at fullspeed
2. Use an emulator that requires a 400 bucks CPU and a 300 bucks GPU that can barely play a few games at slow speed with graphical issues

Yep. You could pirate PC games which includes almost the entire PS4/X1 library (and they run much better on weaker hardware than emulated games do) but those games are selling fine. It's when the platform is busted open that game sales get hurt.
 

N.Grim

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Thank god we are preserving these games that will be widely available for the next 15 years
 

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I would LOVE to go back to Mario Odyssey at a much higher resolution. I look forward to when this emulator matures.
 

Jonnax

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Where did you get those figures from?

What's the point in trying to argue that it's not the case?

"Download an emulator and you can play GBA games for free"
That's what the average person knows about emulators.

Now it'll be playing switch games for free.
Because why would you buy a copy of the game when you can just download it off the internet for free?

It's pathetic the kind of denial emulator proponents have. The developers know they're enabling piracy, it's just a veneer of legitimacy.

I've met plenty of people that have used modchips, R4 cartridges etc to play games for free on consoles.
In fact at the height of the DS pretty much every DS you could see in the wild had a microsd card slot in the cartridge.

And pretty much every person with an expensive pc tells me how they get their games for free .

Many times when I say I buy games I get a "why the fuck would you do that look"

And this is in London, not a country where you could argue games are too expensive.

But then I go online and there's some fantasy world where people.who use emulators only back up their own games and play it .

And then there's arguments for the preservation of games. But like when Dolphin started supporting the Wii at the height of the Wii and now some Switch emulator has come along a couple of years into the switch.

That argument doesn't hold at all.

But I guess to take part in this game where people pretend that 99% of people are owners of the software they're running to make thisnpirscy enabling tool.
The only thing to say is
"Oh wow that's amazing progress, can't wait to try this with my totally legit copy of Mario. Thought I had to buy a switch but not anymore!"

Edit. My point is that whilst emulation is not piaracy, most emulator users are pirates. And it's silly to pretend it's not.
 
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SwitchedOff

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Very impressive progress, the architecture of the switch being pretty understood before it even came out has to help with this doesn't it?


Btw, Is the emulators = piracy talk against the rules here like it was on old gaf? Helped those discussions from getting derailed
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I don't recall, but it would be a nice rule to have here so that people can talk about emulation without having to endure hostile reactions from people who object to it.
 

Jonnax

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They did a study in EU. This was proven to not be the case. It was done in 2017.
For games, the estimated effect of illegal online transactions on sales is
positive because only free games are more likely displaced by online copyright
infringements than not. The overall estimate is 24 extra legal transactions
(including free games) for every 100 online copyright infringements, with an
error margin of 45 per cent (two times the standard error). The positive effect
of illegal downloads and streams on the sales of games may be explained by
players getting hooked and then paying to play the game with extra bonuses
or at extra levels.
https://cdn.netzpolitik.org/wp-upload/2017/09/displacement_study.pdf

That's not exactly what you're saying.
 

ASaiyan

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This rate of progress is mental. With any luck I'll be running my Switch games with increased resolution and performance before the hardware is even retired!
 

Jonnax

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*Surejan.gif*

I mean, I once played tabletop RPG's and now I'm married to Satan.

I'm not saying all. But there's a lot of people that have that attitude .

I'm pointing out that it's silly that when you go online there's a lot of places that but straight up deny that it's even a thing that people do.
 
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For games, the estimated effect of illegal online transactions on sales is
positive – implying that illegal consumption leads to increased legal
consumption. This positive effect of illegal downloads and streams on the
sales of games may be explained by the industry being successful in
converting illegal users to paying users. Tactics used by the industry include,
for example, offering gameplay with extra bonuses or extra levels if
consumers pay.

Sure there is a margin of error in this. So is the other side.

So yea it does and doesn't.
 

Boy Wander

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This will have a negligible impact on game sales. Just because users will play the games on emulator doesn't mean that either a) they have a switch in the first place or b) already have a switch and will not continue to buy games for it. If the situation was as bad as a few are making out , then Smash will sell 200k copies or if the emulator didn't exist it would suddenly sell double. Neither of these are true.
 

Amiibola

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How many times does this need to be said? Emulators aren't piracy.

Playing roms on them is.

Let's not kid ourselves, you can count with one hand the amount of people who rips their own games to use them on emulators.

Talk about emulators of current gen consoles should be restricted on Era
 

catboy

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Remember that time BOTW was playable on PC in the first month of its release and it still went on to sell many millions of copies

Whew
 

GhostTrick

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Playing roms on them is.

Let's not kid ourselves, you can count with one hand the amount of people who rips their own games to use them on emulators.

Talk about emulators of current gen consoles should be restricted on Era



Talking about Switch on ERA should be restricted. Because there's no proof Switch users on ERA are buying games. Especially when a 5 dollars piece of plastic can can a you to run backups on it.
 

KamenRiderEra

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God, piracy is cancer of the industry. Nintendo games should be played on Nintendo platforms, Sony game should be played on Sony platforms, Xbox Games on Microsoft platforms... Not via emulators with illegal roms...
Mario Galaxy in HD, Breath of the Wild in 4k.... Nintendo and any game are better in good hardware. In a perfect world all games should be playable on PC in legal ways.
 
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Chairmanchuck (另一个我)

Chairmanchuck (另一个我)

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This will have a negligible impact on game sales. Just because users will play the games on emulator doesn't mean that either a) they have a switch in the first place or b) already have a switch and will not continue to buy games for it. If the situation was as bad as a few are making out , then Smash will sell 200k copies or if the emulator didn't exist it would suddenly sell double. Neither of these are true.

Piracy is already available for the Switch IIRC.
 
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