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PM of Israel: "The weak crumble, are slaughtered and are erased from history"
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I don't think we live in the middle ages (in some sense I think it is much worse). I don't think Palestinians warrent ethnic cleansing. My comment didn't really target that at all. I was trying to bring forth the viewpoint that his statement, in my view, is very accurate provided you pick a timescale slightly longer than an election cycle or two.
How is that banworthy though? Just because he leads Israel? The guy literally supports war crimes!
This is the smartest take in this thread. Israel is this way because they learned, for better or worse, that brute strength is ultimately the only guaranteed way of survival. That's the mindset they grew after the holocaust - survival at all costs, even if that means committing atrocities. I'm not justifying it, but I understand it.
In regards to the existence of Israel, he's right. Israel would not exist. That said, it doesn't excuse their more current actions/attitude.
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Defending yourself in a war and having a strong military is one thing. Killing civilians and continually displacing them is another.
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Defending yourself in a war and having a strong military is one thing. Killing civilians and continually displacing them is another.
This is Bibi, who is a fruitcake leading a fruitcake government.
Granted, "we have to be strong to avoid being wiped out" has been the tenement of Israeli defence policy since Israel's foundation. And maybe there's a nuance lost in translation.
But still. Man is a fruitcake.
Granted, "we have to be strong to avoid being wiped out" has been the tenement of Israeli defence policy since Israel's foundation. And maybe there's a nuance lost in translation.
But still. Man is a fruitcake.
Came in to say just this. A lot of people replying seem to believe Bibi is being evil for the sake of it. He isn't Trump. His actions are despicable but his point of view comes directly from learning the cynical lessons of the holocaust: that in this dog eat dog world you have to do whatever it takes to survive and trust no one.
He's talking about the survival of Israel. Weak vs strong both refer to Israel in the context of this speech.
Eh, the principle is pretty strong going on historical evidence. The "killing" will start soon enough, but you are talking about the types of events that removes entire populations and reshapes regions / countries so you have to allow for a slightly different timescale than the one you are used to account for in your private life.
I thought the titled said, "Darth Vader: The weak crumble, are slaughtered and are erased from history" Nope of course it is the worst guy that could be running Israel at this point.
so the lessons he learned was "hey Hitler was onto something"? i think this is just fear mongering, he knows what he is doing. just an evil man looking out for #1
Strong countries don't need to waste resources killing the weak. Bibi is obviously way too extreme about his vision of defense (and that is how he sees it), but the quote in the OP has been proven time and time again through history. Ultimately, when shit hits the fan like it did in WW2 and times before that, strength is literally all that matters. Bibi has an unending need to project strength at all times, even if that means killing civilians in the process. He is a morally bankrupt person, but morals didn't matter during the holocaust.
They'll get away with it because of shit like this
US ends aid to Palestinian refugee agency Unrwa: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45377336
It just feeds into the lies perpetrated against a people the US is aiding in eradicating. That's one way to get peace in the Middle East:/
US ends aid to Palestinian refugee agency Unrwa: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45377336
It just feeds into the lies perpetrated against a people the US is aiding in eradicating. That's one way to get peace in the Middle East:/
Bibi can be understood as someone suffering from post traumatic paranoia. He genuinely believes his country is under a constant existential threat.
What he learned was "when the shit hits the fan nobody will look out for the Jews so we better damn well be prepared to do it ourselves."
Netanyahu may be the head of state but ascribing his "survival via ethnic cleansing" worldview to the entire Israeli population is wrong.
well, yes, obviously history is written by the winners and the winners are the ones who survive through strength. I have no idea what you're saying in your second sentence.
Turns out a far-right nationalist party that came in part fromthese guysaren't actually the good guys!!
Bibi's vision of self-defense being overly extreme and morally bankrupt was my point
Israel's mission and reason for existence was never to destroy Fascism or make sure ethnic cleansing is gone from the world. That's ridiculous. It was created solely to protect the Jewish people.
Looking at it from the perspective of "good guys" and "bad guys" is missing the point. See my other words in this post.
Darth Bibious out there with his classic quotes.
And nazi comparisons to Israels will be disallowed even if Bibi starts flying the nazi flag it's an american forum after all.
It's sizeable enough to get him reelected at least.
And nazi comparisons to Israels will be disallowed even if Bibi starts flying the nazi flag it's an american forum after all.
It's sizeable enough to get him reelected at least.
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He has been playing to much Metal Gear Rising.
The day this fucker die is worth celebrating. What a blood thirsty piece of garbage.
The day this fucker die is worth celebrating. What a blood thirsty piece of garbage.
What would have happened in the various Arab-Israeli wars if the IDF had completely collapsed and the Arab armies were able to advance unchecked?
And that's why a fucking genocide on the palestinians is ok?
Wow, thanks for the lesson. That was definitely not how it was presented in US history class.
People who go "it's a horrible irony of history that a nation made in response to the evils of the Holocaust does things like this" completely miss the point. The movement for the formation of the state of Israel and it's deplorable ideology was already in place and well on its way before WWII. The events of the Holocaust merely served to reaffirm and harden the view of the hardliners that the ends of a strong Zionist ethnostate justified any means no matter how cruel. What Bibi is saying is perfectly inline with everything Israel has always stood for.
He's not wrong. It's historically accurate. It's not the way a modern, civilised nation should conduct itself however
Israel has been doing it's share of slaughtering and erasing in the last few years. Modern, civilised nations are supposed to stop that it's cycle
Israel has been doing it's share of slaughtering and erasing in the last few years. Modern, civilised nations are supposed to stop that it's cycle
Comparing Israel to the Nazis is literally the definition of anti-Semitism according to the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance.
https://www.holocaustremembrance.com/working-definition-antisemitism
Whilst I don't agree with it, I feel like everyone that has made those comparisons should be banned immediately lest ResetEra be thought of as an anti-Semitic site.
https://www.holocaustremembrance.com/working-definition-antisemitism
Whilst I don't agree with it, I feel like everyone that has made those comparisons should be banned immediately lest ResetEra be thought of as an anti-Semitic site.
Supposed to? I know the talking point but which nations is actually pursuing this? There might be a few minor nations in a temporary geopolitical advantaged situation, but bwyobe that I can't really see much of this In practice.
Here are a few more interesting pieces of news reporting from the time. Among the first to reach the western world about the extermination of the Jews.
tl;dr: no one gave a shit for quite a while.
https://newrepublic.com/article/118800/first-american-report-holocaust
final paragraph of Varian Fry's 1942 report said:
https://amp.theguardian.com/media/g...olocaust-article-in-1942-that-went-unheralded
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Are we on StormFront here? This is a really bad look, guys.
Err.
If this were Stormfront, a comparison to Hitler and Nazis would be a compliment.
I had to contain my laughter reading this post. Era is soldily liberal while Israel is an authoritarian state, it should be no surprise at all that many are anti-Israel. What pisses me off are the disingenuous people that purposefully conflate anti-Israel attitudes with being anti-Semitic. They are not the same thing.
Sounds more like Mussolini and his brand of Fascism to me.
I've always thought Psalms was the better ideal myself:
3 Defend the weak and the fatherless;
uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed.
4 Rescue the weak and the needy;
deliver them from the hand of the wicked.
They've been accused of genocide but now they are just outright saying it seems like :(
I've always thought Psalms was the better ideal myself:
3 Defend the weak and the fatherless;
uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed.
4 Rescue the weak and the needy;
deliver them from the hand of the wicked.
They've been accused of genocide but now they are just outright saying it seems like :(
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