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Sony on Crossplay: PS4 is the best experience for gamers and therefore should not be compromised
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Absolutely pathetic response from Sony.
Detective ERA strikes again! Probably reflective about those people that think that players from other platforms are "filthy".
First of all.
You've played a grand total of 8 SFV games online since Feb. 16th 2016.
You've lost 6 and won 2. You have 0 points.
Is it that PC players cheat, or you're just not very good?
In fact your 2 wins came against PC players. It seems you've played 6 games against PC players and only 2 against PS4 players. Is that enough for you to decide that those PC players are cheating and it's not a lag issue?
Second, other users informed you that what you described as cheating, was actually lag. You said that you haven't noticed it after you turned off crossplay, yet your last opponent was a PC player.
https://game.capcom.com/cfn/sfv/profile/ethomaz
Detective ERA strikes again! Probably reflective about those people that think that players from other platforms are "filthy".
First of all.
You've played a grand total of 8 SFV games online since Feb. 16th 2016.
You've lost 6 and won 2. You have 0 points.
Is it that PC players cheat, or you're just not very good?
In fact your 2 wins came against PC players. It seems you've played 6 games against PC players and only 2 against PS4 players. Is that enough for you to decide that those PC players are cheating and it's not a lag issue?
Second, other users informed you that what you described as cheating, was actually lag. You said that you haven't noticed it after you turned off crossplay, yet your last opponent was a PC player.
https://game.capcom.com/cfn/sfv/profile/ethomaz
Wow.
This is the best part - no matter which other platform you go to, it has some advantage over PS4 (the importance of each being up to the user):
Phone = Portable
Switch = Portable, crossplay w/ consoles
PC = Better visuals, more options
Xbox = Better visuals, crossplay w/ consoles
I guess you could call Permanent Account Locking an exclusive feature. Maybe they should start advertising that (PAL, let's get it trending).
First of all.
You've played a grand total of 8 SFV games online since Feb. 16th 2016.
You've lost 6 and won 2. You have 0 points.
Is it that PC players cheat, or you're just not very good?
In fact your 2 wins came against PC players. It seems you've played 6 games against PC players and only 2 against PS4 players. Is that enough for you to decide that those PC players are cheating and it's not a lag issue?
Second, other users informed you that what you described as cheating, was actually lag. You said that you haven't noticed it after you turned off crossplay, yet your last opponent was a PC player.
https://game.capcom.com/cfn/sfv/profile/ethomaz
WELP.
More on topic, Sony's nuts but they arguably earned the right to be nuts. Let's hope Xbox brings it next gen.
Nope. I blow crossplay stuff massively up. It's 100% because I'm a PS4 player and I don't want to have an inferior experience on my PS4. If I only owned an Xbox or a Switch or PC - why would I care about PS4 crossplay? It's literally a PS4 problem. For us PS4 players.
lmao :D
This is the extent of Sony's worry about crossplay.
*fixed*
I had to.
First of all.
You've played a grand total of 8 SFV games online since Feb. 16th 2016.
You've lost 6 and won 2. You have 0 points.
Is it that PC players cheat, or you're just not very good?
In fact your 2 wins came against PC players. It seems you've played 6 games against PC players and only 2 against PS4 players. Is that enough for you to decide that those PC players are cheating and it's not a lag issue?
Second, other users informed you that what you described as cheating, was actually lag. You said that you haven't noticed it after you turned off crossplay, yet your last opponent was a PC player.
https://game.capcom.com/cfn/sfv/profile/ethomaz
Man I have to go to eat but I cant stop looking at this thread waiting for that response from the beyond evermore. Who thinks the response will be walter white gif? denial? I have a second account? asking for a ban? not responding at all? yugioh trap card Kaiba gif? make yours bets!
Y'all are gonna end up getting this thread locked by focusing on one guy.
He's not going to respond, and if he does he'll either own up to it or say it's not him. Easy. Done.
Let's not get this shuttered because of a dogpile when there's genuine conversation to still be had
He's not going to respond, and if he does he'll either own up to it or say it's not him. Easy. Done.
Let's not get this shuttered because of a dogpile when there's genuine conversation to still be had
If the threads fate is to be closed, then so be it.
It's a pretty shitty practice and I would love for it to be implemented but I would'nt really care if they kept on going the way they are (apart from the shitty PR talk ofcourse). I do have an Xbox One X so you know, best of both worlds.
Yesterday they were humble Sony, but this comment changes EVERYTHING.
Shhh, that's not the majority opinion! All games that intend to be on multiple platforms have to be designed in ways that facilitates all hardware and input methods, didn't you know? If you want a piece of hardware that limits you to said users of piece of hardware, too bad, because my desires for everyone to play altogether supersede your clearly stupid preferences!
People can't think about things beyond their own personal desires, and why a person may have a preference for another method/design. They don't understand the appeal to a closed ecosystem and they never will, as they don't have a desire to. It's like Apple vs. Android.
Fundamentally, it comes down to the issue of: do you think game designs should be conceded to the idea of all players through a myriad of devices can play at once, thus impacting the design of a game at a fundamental level OR do you think that the individual consumer themselves should have the ability to choose whether or not they want to play with their friends/larger & more disparate audiences using a far larger variety of input methods, hardware, screens and general setups.
Nice paragraphs. Fortnite is invite only for crossplay. In order for him to play against PC players from Switch he would actually have to try and do that on purpose (be in a party with a PC player).
Also, PS4 and PC do crossplay on Fortnite as well.
The issue people are having is PS4 won't crossplay with Switch or Xbox which have controller parity.
Cocky Sony brough us the ps triple, I adored it. Bring cocky sony back!
Any tips for a healthy waiting?
I got $5 on going to wait 2 to 4 days before posting in a different thread acting like nothing happened and hoping no one calls them out.
Sony Exec: Fortnite cross play drama still happening what shall we do
Another Sony Exec: have Fortnite player base decreased, have PS4 sales decreased?
Sony Exec: Not anything drastic
Other Sony Exec: Then fuck em, let's release a PS4 Fortnite bundle
Sony Exec: Laughs
Other Sony Exec: Laughs harder
Another Sony Exec: have Fortnite player base decreased, have PS4 sales decreased?
Sony Exec: Not anything drastic
Other Sony Exec: Then fuck em, let's release a PS4 Fortnite bundle
Sony Exec: Laughs
Other Sony Exec: Laughs harder
Will be totally worth it to shoot our wad on someone that's acted like an astroturfer for years and hilariously gets exposed.
I don't get it, like 5 people called out Jedeye on how PS4 still does crossplay with PC AND it's entirely optional. But you still chose to ignore all that lol.
If it gets shuttered the problem goes away and crossplsy gets swept under the rug.
Haha everyone's so focused on their stance on cross-play while Sony continues to completely ignore 50% of the issue, which is them locking down and holding hostage Fortnite accounts that have been registered on PS4.
First of all.
You've played a grand total of 8 SFV games online since Feb. 16th 2016.
You've lost 6 and won 2. You have 0 points.
Is it that PC players cheat, or you're just not very good?
In fact your 2 wins came against PC players. It seems you've played 6 games against PC players and only 2 against PS4 players. Is that enough for you to decide that those PC players are cheating and it's not a lag issue?
Second, other users informed you that what you described as cheating, was actually lag. You said that you haven't noticed it after you turned off crossplay, yet your last opponent was a PC player.
https://game.capcom.com/cfn/sfv/profile/ethomaz
Lol at ethomaz ....really...
That said ..and coming back on topic...compared to the Ms Xbox X...worst visual and performances in most games ..worst online network...worst controller (compared to the elite)..no crossplay. .yeah better place for who cannot play on a X
Im really interested in seeing if this anti consumer behavior is going to work against them next generation. They have far and away won this generation but remember MS had a ton of momentum going into this generation and they pissed it all away with their anti consumer nonsense.
And yet with all those advantages, PS4 is still the generation leader so what does that tell you about the user base and their worry about Crossplay in general?
Personally i dont see a big deal. And i have spoken to plenty of people outside of here and nobody cares. I have spoken with my sons friends at school, they dont care. They understand, but dont care.
I know my son if someone is on xbox he either grabs his ipad to play with them or our PC. His friends are similar.
Does it suck? Heck yes it should be available for all. But its honestly not a sign of "arrogant sony" nor is it a problem for most.
I know my son if someone is on xbox he either grabs his ipad to play with them or our PC. His friends are similar.
Does it suck? Heck yes it should be available for all. But its honestly not a sign of "arrogant sony" nor is it a problem for most.
OP, in the future please only post a negative article from Sony only if there is potential impact on Sony stock otherwise this is just a storm in a glass, Sony is still winning, has the best games, sold the most consoles and your threads are not going to change it. If you insist in doing so, accept serious downplaying, cynism, sarcasm and dismissing other people's opinions.
First of all.
You've played a grand total of 8 SFV games online since Feb. 16th 2016.
You've lost 6 and won 2. You have 0 points.
Is it that PC players cheat, or you're just not very good?
In fact your 2 wins came against PC players. It seems you've played 6 games against PC players and only 2 against PS4 players. Is that enough for you to decide that those PC players are cheating and it's not a lag issue?
Second, other users informed you that what you described as cheating, was actually lag. You said that you haven't noticed it after you turned off crossplay, yet your last opponent was a PC player.
https://game.capcom.com/cfn/sfv/profile/ethomaz
And of course he's a Ken player
No one wants to talk about it because it's completely indefensible. Easier to just shift it back to crossplay. You should have seen the original thread.
Hokay Sony, whatever you say.
This is giving me more reason to just let my ps plus membership expire this November.
This is giving me more reason to just let my ps plus membership expire this November.
I'm not speaking about this from an individual, game situation. I'm talking about the impact of the potentiality for various users from multiple platforms & input methods on a games design, both from a strictly "game design" perspective, as well as what that means from a game development resource point of view.
If I want to play an FPS/shooter game that's designed around a controller, I typically avoid third party games for this explicit reason. The only exception to this was the original Titanfall for me.
Basically, I buy and play games on consoles because I enjoy playing games with and designed around a controller input first and foremost, fundamentally, without any kind of design concession for a mouse and keyboard set up at all. And, personally, I find it incredibly annoying that this opinion is not worth having, and that all games that are third party/multiple hardware releases HAVE to be designed in ways that facilitate a large number of players, setups, inputs, etc. etc.
I think it's great that there's multiple platforms that allow cross platform play, but I also think that there SHOULD be a place for people who want to have their games and the parity between them as equitable as possible via the reduction of possible outside variables. But hey, maybe this is crazy talk. (I also game on all platforms, so really, "Cross Play" from an actual "usage" perspective means literally nothing to me).
The only "Cross Play" game that I've played somewhat recently, was Rocket League, and whether on PS4 or Steam, I usually tried to limit it just that specific platforms players, depending where I played.
I just feel like there should be a choice of hardware that is a walled garden. I personally find that appealing. It's why I like Nintendo. It's why I like Apple. These things have their own appeal for people that have different preferences/desires, even if those desires aren't exactly 'plainly obvious'.
Honestly?
No one really gives a shit if you don't care.
If you truly don't care so much, you wouldn't participate in the conversation anyway, rather than investing time in saying "well it's not great, but I don't care, so it's not a problem."
Sony allows crossplay with mobile gamers.
lol :D
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