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Ahmedz

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"Playstation is the best place to play, to the point that we won't let you play the same game on a different console despite the developers' goal."

Get fucked.
 

molnizzle

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Every market would do the same thing. Expect it from whoever is leader next generation too. It's just smart business - as much as it sucks.
Sony is in this position because they were perceived as the "pro-consumer" option early on.

This isn't smart business long term. Gamers are a fickle bunch.
 

Midas

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I figured this was some shit Jim Ryan would say, kind of surprised it's from Kenichiro Yoshida.

I personally don't really care about crossplay but you'd think stirring the pot further on the issue is the opposite of what they would want to do PR wise.

The only way Sony agrees to Crossplay is if the PS5 isn't the success that the PS4 is.

Haha, yes. Very Ryan-esque. Can't wait till we get some new interviews with him.

And you're spot on, won't change unless they sell less.
 

BadWolf

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Duh?

You don't build a userbase that large and then just give it away to your competitors.
 

AtmaPhoenix

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Well I guess the cycle continues. Can't wait for $600 PS5 with digital DRM while NextBox blows everything Sony out of the water.

Jesus Sony get your act together.
 

nib95

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Weelllll... Ps3 failure wiped them out to the point of losing money so...not really?

The PS3 was profitable for Sony, both in terms of hardware and software. They only lost money in the initial years. I feel like I've responded with something to this effect to you previously, but if you want to keep regurgitating misinformation that's on you.
 

Hesemonni

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Kinda sucks as an answer, but cross-play is a non-issue to them and most of the consumers don't care.
 

VariantX

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Sony setting themselves up to be #2 or 3. If you're not gonna do it then don't and shut the hell up about it. You're just giving people a reason to look at the competition next cycle. These console companies always forget you're always a couple of fuck-ups and bad calls away from last place.
 

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They can afford to approach it like that this gen and it's rather funny too. OPTIONAL crossplay is something that should happen eventually.
 

R dott B

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It'll continue to be a first party titles only console for me. It's a shame but Sony's gonna Sony.
 

OneBadMutha

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He just beat Greenberg for dumbest comment from a gaming exec this week.

Fucking arrogant and illogical. How does offering cross play...or at least allowing people to access their Fortnite accounts on other platforms compromise anything?
 

molnizzle

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Agreed. But it's cyclical. Is they lose the market lead the next person will eventually do the same thing Sony is doing now. And so on and so forth.
Until one of them figures out that the smart play long term is just to maintain the pro-consumer attitude.

With gaming becoming more and more "ecosystem" based... I think MS might be onto that.

I suppose we'll see.
 

Falconbox

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Agreed. But it's cyclical. Is they lose the market lead the next person will eventually do the same thing Sony is doing now. And so on and so forth.

I don't think you can reverse course on this. Microsoft and Nintendo are open to it now. Suddenly saying "NO" next generation if Microsoft takes the lead would be horrible PR, and something I never see Phil Spencer doing as long as he's head of Xbox.
 

IIFloodyII

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Basically as close to "no, now fuck off" as we're going to get.
I wonder if people think they are going to change with the PS5 still. They got away with locking accounts bullshit, no to cross-play is easy to get away with compared to that.
 

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That doesn't make any sense. Only one thing can be the best. There's no multiple best experiences.
 
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Well I agree.

I want my playing ecosystem to more close possible... I don't want to play against somebody else outside PS4.

But that is me of course... I even dislike cross-play with PC that have in some titles.

Yes, I fundamentally agree with you and this sentiment. This is not what the mob wants though.

When I buy a console, one of the main defining reasons I buy a console is because of parity; I know that I'm (roughly, in close approximation) getting the same experience as every other console user. This is especially relevant when it comes to considering multiplayer. While sure, people can go out of their ways to alter experiences/give advantages to themselves/find workarounds for any number of things, it is definitively more difficult to do those kinds of things on a console, and that's fundamentally the point and appeal.

People demanding that consoles and companies bend to their will, much like the PC space, is super annoying to me. If I wanted to play PC games in a PC space, I'd play fucking PC games.
 

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Agreed. But it's cyclical. Is they lose the market lead the next person will eventually do the same thing Sony is doing now. And so on and so forth.

Ah is this what Spencer was joking about where people think if Xbox was in first place Spencer's horns would grow and he'd start doing stuff like cutting cross-play?
 

ghibli99

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Stuff like this makes me glad I only play sp/solo games, but man that sucks for those who have friends with other consoles they can't play with. :(
 

Liliana

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Duh?

You don't build a userbase that large and then just give it away to your competitors.

Lol the ol' "userbase" rhetoric. What a non-issue given how large and populated the Xbox/Switch playerbase is.

And look at Minecraft, which has a bigger userbase on Xbox One by itself. Now add in all the platforms in the Better Together update and the PS4 userbase is like a spec of sand in comparison.
 

RadioJoNES

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So yeah it's pretty clear the solutions they were "looking into" were nonexistent and that they will never change their policy until they are in a position where they need good PR.
 

OneBadMutha

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If Sony doesn't want to do it because it opens the door for their base to switch platforms, I get it. Just can't handle any more of the dumb fake excuses. "It's the children." "It'll diminish the quality of our gamers experience." Pathetic exec speak.
 
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