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Tygre

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Oct 25, 2017
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Jordan Peterson cannot handle his cider:


(A reminder for our international viewers: North American cider is non-alcoholic. JP got fucked up for a month by fucking apple juice.)
 

Joeku

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Oct 26, 2017
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We definitely have alcoholic cider in Canada, but still, that...

I don't even know what to say to that.
 

oneils

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Jordan Peterson cannot handle his cider:


(A reminder for our international viewers: North American cider is non-alcoholic. JP got fucked up for a month by fucking apple juice.)


lol ok. i get that it's a bit funny, but unpasteurised apple cider can be very dangerous and make people very sick. If you ever drink apple cider, make sure it's pasteurized.
 

Mivey

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I don't get that apple cider story. Did it taste so bad that it gave him PTSD or something? It couldn't have been alcohol (even if someone had mixed some into what is essentially apple juice), that's not going to be in your system for longer than a few days.
 

Foffy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Peterson seems to put women in positions of prophet.

First his wife telling him about the dreams of doomsday, and now his daughter predicted the future for how long he's going to be drinking cider?

I'm gonna be blunt: what doofus at this point really thinks this person is smart. If you're here reading this post, show yourself.
 

oneils

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I don't get that apple cider story. Did it taste so bad that it gave him PTSD or something? It couldn't have been alcohol (even if someone had mixed some into what is essentially apple juice), that's not going to be in your system for longer than a few days.

It may have been food poisoning. Especially if it wasn't pasteurized.
 

Arkeband

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I listened to the first half of Joe Rogan's latest interview with Peterson's daughter, and I think Joe's starting to come around on both of them potentially being full of shit, or at the very least not reputable sources for a lot of the advice they give, especially on diet.

First he took a side against Jordan's enforced monogamy views and went so far as to say that even JBP's clarification wasn't sufficient. Then they went into an unnecessarily deep dive with JBP's daughter's lifelong health issues, and he pushed back hard on most of the falsehoods she was saying about exercise and her own dad's diet bullshit.

I might listen to the rest later, but I was expecting it to be Joe verbally fellating her dad while paying lip service to her diet stuff and so far it's been virtually the complete opposite. At the point I left off, the only thing a reasonable listener could come away from this is understanding she has an autoimmune deficiency so her diet can't reliably be applied to anyone else, and that she has no idea what the fuck she's talking about.
 

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Peterson seems to put women in positions of prophet.

First his wife telling him about the dreams of doomsday, and now his daughter predicted the future for how long he's going to be drinking cider?

I'm gonna be blunt: what doofus at this point really thinks this person is smart. If you're here reading this post, show yourself.
As you well know, if had been reading the relevant texts regarding this matter, women, especially the ones who haven't been exposed to the murderous postermodern Marxism of the left, have what is know in the social sciences thetans in their soul, their being. Sort of like the midichlorians in that famous historical text I'm sure you know of. These thetans allow woman to gaze into the future during their sleep, inoculates them from the horrors of the murderous left, and by occupying this space as traditional seers of the tribe - they're oracles like the one from the Matrix who transformed from an elderly black woman to a different elderly black woman to keep her power within this kurderous doctrine and to wield it against the unique forms of Agent Smith - it allows man to traverse the chaos of the world in order to defeat nuclear holocausts and pronouns.
 

Chikor

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I don't get that apple cider story. Did it taste so bad that it gave him PTSD or something? It couldn't have been alcohol (even if someone had mixed some into what is essentially apple juice), that's not going to be in your system for longer than a few days.
He's making shit up, no one can stay up for 25 days.
 

nemoral

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Would food poisoning leave someone unable to sleep for 25 days in a constant state of terror?
No, and he didn't go without sleep for 25 days, either. He's full of shit. His crazy daughter has convinced herself and him that eating anything other than meat, salt, and water will cause them grievous harm. So much so that a little pepper destroys them. There's absolutely no scientific backing for it, and it's unlikely they're even doing it consistently, because if they were they'd be very ill. Humans are not carnivores, we're omnivorous, and we don't have digestive systems capable of handling all meat diets. He's a psychologist that can't tell the difference between an actual scientific illness and psychosomatic symptoms of mental illness.
 

Dyno

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He has an auto-immune disorder.

Any specifics on what? There's plenty of them out there so without any idea of what his apparently is that doesn't really provide any information.

For instance mines skin related, psoriasis to be specific. If I drink beer it will ever so slightly flare up worse, but not half as bad as when I eat meat. The answer is questionable without detail, and that's ignoring the immense damage 25 days of no sleep would actually do.
 

Foffy

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I listened to the first half of Joe Rogan's latest interview with Peterson's daughter, and I think Joe's starting to come around on both of them potentially being full of shit, or at the very least not reputable sources for a lot of the advice they give, especially on diet.

First he took a side against Jordan's enforced monogamy views and went so far as to say that even JBP's clarification wasn't sufficient. Then they went into an unnecessarily deep dive with JBP's daughter's lifelong health issues, and he pushed back hard on most of the falsehoods she was saying about exercise and her own dad's diet bullshit.

I might listen to the rest later, but I was expecting it to be Joe verbally fellating her dad while paying lip service to her diet stuff and so far it's been virtually the complete opposite. At the point I left off, the only thing a reasonable listener could come away from this is understanding she has an autoimmune deficiency so her diet can't reliably be applied to anyone else, and that she has no idea what the fuck she's talking about.

Runs in the family it seems ;)

In a good and just world, people are gonna see Peterson as a conservative, and that naturally means he's all about ideals, feelings, non-facts, and let's not forget his fetish for dreams.

As you well know, if had been reading the relevant texts regarding this matter, women, especially the ones who haven't been exposed to the murderous postermodern Marxism of the left, have what is know in the social sciences thetans in their soul, their being. Sort of like the midichlorians in that famous historical text I'm sure you know of. These thetans allow woman to gaze into the future during their sleep, inoculates them from the horrors of the murderous left, and by occupying this space as traditional seers of the tribe - they're oracles like the one from the Matrix who transformed from an elderly black woman to a different elderly black woman to keep her power within this kurderous doctrine and to wield it against the unique forms of Agent Smith - it allows man to traverse the chaos of the world in order to defeat nuclear holocausts and pronouns.

Somehow all of that sounds more reasonable than "shamans knew about DNA" or whatever he attributed to ancients with psychotropics. As someone who has an "education" on these sorts of drugs because I'm familiar with the mind, the fact he thought secret science was the "secret" to them always, always makes me giggle, especially considering LSD and psilocybin directly encroach upon Peterson's poor gimmick of self-inquiry and do a much better job of internal realisations and change than his quack ass philosophy will ever do.
 

saenima

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Jordan Peterson cannot handle his cider:


(A reminder for our international viewers: North American cider is non-alcoholic. JP got fucked up for a month by fucking apple juice.)


I have spent an entire weekend hallucinating like i was OD'ing on acid drops due to food poisoning, but 25 days without sleep is bullshit of the highest order. I don't believe it for a second, especially ftom the mouth of a professional bullshitter trying to sell his product.
 

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Any specifics on what? There's plenty of them out there so without any idea of what his apparently is that doesn't really provide any information.

For instance mines skin related, psoriasis to be specific. If I drink beer it will ever so slightly flare up worse, but not half as bad as when I eat meat. The answer is questionable without detail, and that's ignoring the immense damage 25 days of no sleep would actually do.

I do not know and don't really care to find out.
 

Absinthe

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No, and he didn't go without sleep for 25 days, either. He's full of shit. His crazy daughter has convinced herself and him that eating anything other than meat, salt, and water will cause them grievous harm. So much so that a little pepper destroys them. There's absolutely no scientific backing for it, and it's unlikely they're even doing it consistently, because if they were they'd be very ill. Humans are not carnivores, we're omnivorous, and we don't have digestive systems capable of handling all meat diets. He's a psychologist that can't tell the difference between an actual scientific illness and psychosomatic symptoms of mental illness.

This isn't entirely true. Look up Shawn Baker and Anthony Gustin. Both doctors who have spent time on the carnivore diet, seen good results, and monitored their blood work to ensure they're healthy. Another would be Vince Goranda, a body builder who lived on only steak and eggs weekly with a cheat day on the weekend.

IMO though, vegetables are a very important diatery need which is why Keto is worth while because you get similar results without becoming deficient in other areas.
 

Dr. Dre's Dr.

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Why does it matter? His ideas are shit and he is shit.

Because it actually makes some of you sound like some sort of bizzaro world version of an incel. You are just hating him for asinine things now like for getting "fucked up for a month by fucking apple juice.)"

You don't even have reasons to argue on intellectual levels anymore. It is literally just taking anything he says and mocking and disparaging anything he says, even when it isn't something of note, then ganging up for a verbal beat down and high fiving.

I see a lot of parallels there.

I'd quote the people that quoted me but they edited their original posts.

Seems to me like maybe he isn't worth discussing here at all really. What is the point of a thread that is just full of vitriol?
 

nemoral

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This isn't entirely true. Look up Shawn Baker and Anthony Gustin. Both doctors who have spent time on the carnivore diet and seen good results. Another would be Vince Goranda, a body builder who lived on only steak and eggs weekly with a cheat day on the weekend.

IMO though, vegetables are a very important diatery need which is why Keto is worth while because you get similar results without becoming deficient in other areas.
As far as I was able to find, both are Keto dieters, not engaged in carnivory. We're not talking about keto, we're talking about them literally eating nothing but meat and water. You won't find any respected scientists or nutritionists that think this is a good idea.

Oh, I see Baker is an actual carnivorist. Who's selling his plan. And is an orthopedist with no credentials in nutrition. Yup, totally convinced.
 

Tya

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Anyone here actually pick up 12 Rules for Life? The quotes online from it drive me batty.

It's funny to me how much his book echoes a similar author in Robert Greene who was a bit ahead of his time when he wrote books like The 48 Laws of Power in 1998 and The Art of Seduction in 2001. That isn't to the say the two men are equal. Peterson, despite what he might claim, is very much a conservative Christian when it comes to social issues. Greene is nothing of the sort. Still, they both channel a certain brand of conservatism that can only be described as sociopathic. They also both clearly appeal to men with low self-esteem.
 

TheDutchSlayer

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When the scurvy hits you hard

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NoName999

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I find it funny that the guy who basically promotes that men should be leaders gets his life advice from possibly insane women.
 

Tya

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He has an auto-immune disorder.

You seem in the know. What auto-immune disorder does he have? I want to protect myself and my loved ones from going through a similar experience. Feeling an overwhelming sense of doom and not sleeping for 25 days sounds awful.

Thanks in advance, Bucko!
 

I Don't Like

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Just want to remind all the defenders and on-the-fencers here that Jordan Peterson has abhorrent views about women and feminism (claims feminism is responsible for alienating young men and making them fucked up) and also denies systemic racism and rails against diversity.

At the least you should dislike him because he's kind of a piece of shit. If you don't care about the above then so are you.
 

Goat Mimicry

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I don't get that apple cider story. Did it taste so bad that it gave him PTSD or something? It couldn't have been alcohol (even if someone had mixed some into what is essentially apple juice), that's not going to be in your system for longer than a few days.

The world record is 11 days and is held by someone who was 17 at the time. An older person like Peterson would have died staying awake for over twice as long.

And there's no way he wouldn't be preaching about the hallucinations he would have experienced, but he's not talking about them because he's a liar who forgot to make his story believable.
 

mael

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Nov 3, 2017
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The world record is 11 days and is held by someone who was 17 at the time. An older person like Peterson would have died staying awake for over twice as long.

And there's no way he wouldn't be preaching about the hallucinations he would have experienced, but he's not talking about them because he's a liar who forgot to make his story believable.
To be fair he's too busy preaching the hallucinations of his wife to sell his own.
 

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So he has an auto-immune disorder, but you can't be bothered to tell us what, where this information comes from, how verifiable this is, anything really, yet felt the need to come in here and state it.

Well, I was replying to someone that was confused about the apple cider story. I didn't come in here to just state it for no reason. I'm only going on what I heard from him on the Joe Rogan Experience. He claims he has an auto-immune disorder and limiting his diet to meat and greens helped with controlling it. That's the extent of what I know.
 

Absinthe

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As far as I was able to find, both are Keto dieters, not engaged in carnivory. We're not talking about keto, we're talking about them literally eating nothing but meat and water. You won't find any respected scientists or nutritionists that think this is a good idea.

Oh, I see Baker is an actual carnivorist. Who's selling his plan. And is an orthopedist with no credentials in nutrition. Yup, totally convinced.

Anthony Gustin actually had very positive results with the carnivore diet recently:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast...ogenic-diet/id1341848099?mt=2&i=1000415901559

And again, I'm not advocating for the absence of vegetables, just providing resources of people who have actually done this themselves.
 
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