Yeah that makes them racist or ok with racism as long as they get what they want. either way the impact is the same so I don't get the constant need some people have to protect them from the social repercussions of their own actions
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Poll: only 18% of Trump voters believe using the n-word is racist
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Not the guy who posted but for an example, I was listening to 'The Stand' on audiobook the other day. So a white man was saying the n-word repeatedly, reading words written by another white man. Both of whom were profiting off of this. The word was used by a fictional racist white character as a racial epithet towards a fictional black character.
That's the weird thing, as 53% think it's never acceptable for white person to use. But only 18% think it's racist.
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The only thing that's disturbing is people posting their outrage before actually reading the poll in question.
They polled a grand total of 1,000 people. There were 62,984,828 Conservative voters in the 2016 Election. Transitively applying the thoughts of 1,000 random individuals on to a voter base of almost 63 million individuals is just disingenuous horse shit.
Additionally, the polls given to these 1,000 people asked 47 other political questions that were not reported on by either the Washington Post or Huffington Post. I suspect that if the omitted questions and answers painted Conservatives in a negative light then they certainly would have been included in the article. They can post the whole poll or stfu.
Of course.
This is one reason I'm not as excited about "a tape of Trump using the N-word" as others are. IT'll come out, and you'll see this 18% number go up to like 40% and people who had stopped using the word over the last 20, 30 years will start to use it again
This is one reason I'm not as excited about "a tape of Trump using the N-word" as others are. IT'll come out, and you'll see this 18% number go up to like 40% and people who had stopped using the word over the last 20, 30 years will start to use it again
That's easy to reconcile if you think like a racist and realize that to a racist those are two very different questions. The difference would presumably be because a bulk of that 53% think it's not acceptable to say that word, not because it's actually racist or anything like that, but rather because the "PC majority" won't LET then say it and is infringing on their freedom of speech, or some other such reason. They realize it's not cool to say in public and are of course cognizant of that, but blame that fact in political correctness or whatever instead of their own racism/the racial connotations of the word.
Aah yeah true, "it's not acceptable because it might get me in trouble".
I mean, yes. But there is a pretty bands of contexts where appropriate. Like you're in a play or you're reading a book out loud.
The context thing is weirdly obfuscating from what's actually being talked about; the actual context of the poll lol
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The fact that black people can use it and white people can't is racist by itself. The word itself is racist for all party's or not racist for any party.
Did you just copy/paste your completely, flatout wrong post from that other topic? XD
Are you are conservative by chance?
Smh
As others have noted it's likely because they use/have used it and know it's wrong but since they aren't racist it was just a mistake and not racist.
Go back to the drawing board and figure this number out, WaPo.
The fact that you don't understand this highlights why black people get to make the rules on who gets to use it and who doesn't. Once again spoken as a black dude that doesn't say, spends his time working in neighborhoods where it's used a plenty yet don't get called it by other black people.
Does it hurt your feelings that you can't use a word that was used to dehumanise a race of people, that if you're white was a word to tell a black person they were inferior?
I guess the effects of slavery and segregation doesn't mean much to you?
Is this ok? Song lyrics it is considered inappropriate or even racist, so not sure how a play or book would be different.
No that's definitely not racist. It's a word that's been used and still used to opress black people. Black people don't opress each other with it though. It's not super difficult concept imo. Black people can of course disagree about it's usage, it's their word.
Yeah this is a good video.
Please watch this.
Black people are not the only group of people that enjoy the privilege of exclusive language.
So is this copy paste or do you just not understand how statistics work? I know, I know, math is hard and such, which is why you're equating elementary school math with college statistics.
Trump voters vary from full blown racists, to those merely ok with racism. That number seems high, if anything.
This is immediately what I thought of when I saw the thread. Quoting because it's a must-watch video for white people.
(I'm white)
People who call out those who use that word are the real racists because they're the ones promoting racial divides. I'm totally colour blind and the racists like this are the problem.
Will be the defence used by many. The above joker included.
It's telling though that when actual, definitive racist hate speech and language is now suddenly not an example of racism. Trump has not only nornalised hate speech but made it so that racists can defend themselves by claiming, rightly that their views are now the views of those in office.
To them, anything Trump does is the right thing, and thus, think that racism is now something that affects *them* more than actual victims of racism.
Most people who took part in this probably would have associated the word with its negative connotations...I think they would be aware of the context, unless they were literally brain dead.
Every time I think of this I wonder how far back you'd have to go in U.S. history and re educate people and completely change the face of news media in order to get a different demographic in 2016.
Basically why Don Lemon said that a tape of Trump using the N word would not change anything, and why in this forum most people know that the real Trump suporters will never stop following him no matter what you say or he does.
You can Hate Trump as much as you want, but he knows his base very well (sometime it makes me think if his whole persona is an act put out by him to capture his base) and there hasnt been such truer word coming out of him as when he said that he could kill someone in the middle of 5th avenue and his suporters will still follow him, it is amazing and at the same time scary.
As long as there isn't enough Trump voters to get him in office again, that's a victory.
Do you realize that statistics is a science that has pretty well figured out how to get a representative sampling at this point?
I always believed his election is a product of Not enough democrats going out to vote.
Thanks for sharing, great video. White people people unable to use the word serving as a brief insight into living as a black person was especially poignant
This is an awesome clip and very nicely explain it, thank you fir sharing.
Even more poignant, not just to white people but many dominant groups (such as men vs women, rich vs poor etc) is the concept of living all your life with nothing being denied from you, to the point where the smallest denial feels unusual and stands out as inconsistent with your world view.
To me that helps understand how people can react so strongly to such inconsequential denials without seeing the hypocrisy.
Black people are excessively scrutinized for their diction, mocked for their lingo while also having it appropriated by popular media, are assumed to be uneducated and have "well-spoken" as a dogwhistle thrown at them constantly. Despite the majority being fluent in English, they cannot even navigate the language without persistent criticism hurled at them.
The fact that people are sooooooo hurt because they're not encouraged to use a racial slur is so infuriating, and drawing "cracker" as an equivalency is so stupid when you consider what that epithet is referring to.
The fact that people are sooooooo hurt because they're not encouraged to use a racial slur is so infuriating, and drawing "cracker" as an equivalency is so stupid when you consider what that epithet is referring to.
Aye very true. As you say, it's so clear that the folks who respond indiginantly haven't paid much thought to experiences outside their own.
Holy crap that number is higher than I expected. I don't associate with people who I've heard use the n word, but the couple I've encountered (at least online, as I've never actually heard a white person say it in person), try to throw out the whole it's not racist because not all black people are n words. I just can't imagine people can think like that. It's insane.
Every response I type I backspace because it is racist. I think. Is it racist to call white people crackers? ( I am white)
That's the problem with America's two-party system. So many voting Americans only vote for one party their entire lives no matter who the candidate is.
Hopefully, Trump's disgusting 'presidency' will lead to people rethinking this routine of just always voting Republican no matter how deplorable the party is.