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GOP governor candidate says Florida shouldn't "monkey this up" by electing his black opponent
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Seriously no one says "monkeying this up". I've never heard someone say that, that's not a common phrase. It's fucking racist undertone just like the language thing he said. Hope this piece of shit loses bad.
Aha, did you now? And yet somehow those words never, EVER made it to google. Please go ahead and give us an estimate of how likely that is.
To me, it was clearly intentional. The context barely makes any sense.
It was a clear signal to racists.
It was a clear signal to racists.
I also swear I've heard this before, but I have no doubt it is a racist jab. Similar to "they gypped me."
Nah, Randall is just an oblivious idiot who actually realizes his grandma was racist lol.
"It's cool I'm taking it back." lmao.
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What words never made it to google? If you're going to condescend, be clear about it.
If you're referring to the phrase, I had never heard it in that context, popped it into google and the first website was Merriam Webster(aha! Ever heard of that?) and it was exactly how I had heard it used.
I'm not going to rehash the discussion again two days later, feel free to read the rest of the thread and not stop at the one that lets you use a nice zinger.
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lol why you lying, "monkey this up" shows no results found on Merriam.
This plus your garbage in the Beto thread AND the minority shopping thread... be a little more subtle maybe.
"Monkey around" maybe is what I saw? What is the Beto thread? And I said the "guy" in the shopping thread was definitely a victim of racism. Maybe you're trying to find things that aren't there?
To the people that remember using that term, do you have any specific memories of using it?
I'm pretty sure I used that term exactly once to refer to me going to code a thing I had absolutely no idea how to do properly. And it felt super weird to use, because I had to really think about if i meant "muck it up", which didn't fit the situation, and considered something like jury-rig, but that sounded too competent, so i said it with uncertainty, asked if that was a term, and they said yes. That's why I confirmed that car repair shop tweet.
I must have picked it up somewhere. It seems Stack Overflow only has one reference to it you can only find through google search, but I guess I wouldn't have been so uncertain about it if it was popular. I should also note "*****rigging" was part of my vocabulary growing up, so it makes sense I would pick up "monkey it up" quickly to fill the hole from banning myself from using the other word. Believe it or not I didn't make the connection until that tweet, but they really are interchangeable in that one time I used it.
At least of the few google search results with this story filtered out, there are multiple results related to mechanics and coding. I'm beginning to think that was never a term outside of a few mechanics in the south using it in that particular way, and everyone else's memories are mostly playing tricks on them. Everything else is probably just the generic "(noun) it up" phrasing.
I'm pretty sure I used that term exactly once to refer to me going to code a thing I had absolutely no idea how to do properly. And it felt super weird to use, because I had to really think about if i meant "muck it up", which didn't fit the situation, and considered something like jury-rig, but that sounded too competent, so i said it with uncertainty, asked if that was a term, and they said yes. That's why I confirmed that car repair shop tweet.
I must have picked it up somewhere. It seems Stack Overflow only has one reference to it you can only find through google search, but I guess I wouldn't have been so uncertain about it if it was popular. I should also note "*****rigging" was part of my vocabulary growing up, so it makes sense I would pick up "monkey it up" quickly to fill the hole from banning myself from using the other word. Believe it or not I didn't make the connection until that tweet, but they really are interchangeable in that one time I used it.
At least of the few google search results with this story filtered out, there are multiple results related to mechanics and coding. I'm beginning to think that was never a term outside of a few mechanics in the south using it in that particular way, and everyone else's memories are mostly playing tricks on them. Everything else is probably just the generic "(noun) it up" phrasing.
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Entirely possible, actually (at least for me). There are four mechanics in my family and I grew up around mechanics my entire life.
Your memory is playing tricks on you, as it is wont to do in humans. This shit is not new. Memories can be incredibly convincing, yet false. Always trust math and statistics over human brain faulty recollection.
The words "Monkey this up", you know, the ones in the OP title. Based julian (whose post is now in the OP) searched for them and came back to tell us the truth.
I probably wouldn't get an opportunity to condescend if people would make an effort to replicate my experiment (just as I did to make sure julian wasn't full of shit) before coming and telling me I am either wrong or lying. Because if they did, they would realize I am not, in fact, lying.
Julian is wrong and that quote should be removed from the OP.
The whole Twitter thread goes into the etymology, but this is the takeaway:
I wouldn't normally assume that someone who uses that phrase is a racist, but that person using that phrase in that context makes it pretty cut and dry.
And honestly just running for office as a Republican in 2018 makes you a stone cold racist by itself, so they don't get the benefit of the doubt.
And honestly just running for office as a Republican in 2018 makes you a stone cold racist by itself, so they don't get the benefit of the doubt.
Oh I don't like this responsibility of being added to the OP! Lol.
Out of curiosity, I just tried a search on Merrima Webster for "monkey this up" and just "monkey up". No results.
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Exactly why I hate responsibility.
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Here are the google results to show I'm not completely crazy about the coding/mechanics thing either, while also noting it is not exactly common:
https://www.google.com/search?q="monkey+it+up"+-desantis+-gillum&tbs=cdr:1,cd_max:7/31/2018&ei=IY-JW9qYO6P19APm5IQ4&start=30&sa=N&biw=960&bih=492
https://www.google.com/search?q="monkey+it+up"+-desantis+-gillum&tbs=cdr:1,cd_max:7/31/2018&ei=IY-JW9qYO6P19APm5IQ4&start=30&sa=N&biw=960&bih=492
My personal theory is that he didn't intend to throw out a dog whistle, but it's a freudian slip that shows he was clearly thinking or talking some mad racist shit earlier that day. That's how the word "monkey" came to mind when literally almost no one ever uses that phrase.
It could also just be a straight up dog whistle. Wouldn't surprise me.
It could also just be a straight up dog whistle. Wouldn't surprise me.
No. He was being racist. He was VERY VERY OBVIOUSLY BEING RACIST speaking to his racist base. No slip. No accident. No using an obscure phrase that has never ever existed. You don't need an Occam's razor for this one. This is a multiple choice question with one answer.
First things that came to my mind
1. This dude is so ingrained in white southern racism that he let that slip without realizing it. Because, you know, he's a racist.
Or
2. He said it deliberately, in anticipation of a media reaction that will benefit him with conservative white voters ("they're playing the race card against him").
I lean towards the first one but I definitely think any discussion of casual southern racism threatens white voters, who rally around the "victim" the same way sexual abusers defend each other: they know it could be them next on that summer jam screen. Gillum is smart to not fall for the bait and continue talking about issues...but this won't be the last time race becomes an issue in this campaign.
1. This dude is so ingrained in white southern racism that he let that slip without realizing it. Because, you know, he's a racist.
Or
2. He said it deliberately, in anticipation of a media reaction that will benefit him with conservative white voters ("they're playing the race card against him").
I lean towards the first one but I definitely think any discussion of casual southern racism threatens white voters, who rally around the "victim" the same way sexual abusers defend each other: they know it could be them next on that summer jam screen. Gillum is smart to not fall for the bait and continue talking about issues...but this won't be the last time race becomes an issue in this campaign.
I find it more likely you're right, considering what he was spending his spare time doing with that FB group. Dude was talking about a Black man and his racist mind went right to comparing him with a monkey.
I don't think it was some kind of intentional move to get people talking about him or making it about race or what have you. But, they might try that now after the damage was done.
Don't misread: either way - the word was used was racist and he's racist. I think at this point it's more me trying to understand how you can be so stupid that you'd throw your racism right out there in broad daylight, but I often forget we live in the fucking era of Trump where that no longer matters.
Are people just inventing racist phrases now and preemptively whitewashing them by giving them some long history that does not exist because it seems like something that would happen in America?
Cause to "monkey something up" is not something that is so common as to be a saying in any region.
Cause to "monkey something up" is not something that is so common as to be a saying in any region.
You'd have to be very isolated to not know about the monkey slurs.
Here are the google results to show I'm not completely crazy about the coding/mechanics thing either, while also noting it is not exactly common:
https://www.google.com/search?q="monkey+it+up"+-desantis+-gillum&tbs=cdr:1,cd_max:7/31/2018&ei=IY-JW9qYO6P19APm5IQ4&start=30&sa=N&biw=960&bih=492
Welp. I was wrong I guess. Thanks.
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But the REAL issue is that some video game forum doesn't want to put up with this shit from conservatives.
Where are the so called "good" Republicans to denounce this?
Shaking my damn head at those trying trying to claim this isn't racism, if the dog whistle he was blowing got any louder our eardrums would burst. The GOP is made up of racists and bigots elected by other racists and bigots, they know their base well and this was a clear signal to that base.
If anything this will just make places in FL like the Panhandle want to come out even more.
It's gonna be a close race, hope DeSantis loses.
The right is seriously trying to whatabout this because Chuck Schumer once said Donald Trump threw a monkey wrench into the immigration negotiations and Obama once said democrats have been known to monkey around with elections.
Pretty telling that these are the closest things they can find.
Pretty telling that these are the closest things they can find.
