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ASaiyan

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I guess it'll be a while before we get the N64 Classic then. I'll wait but I want an official emulator for that console so bad, lol.
 

fiendcode

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By revenue nes classic didn't win. Which is the more important number.
It probably won by the most important number though.

It really is. And it's crazy that the Xbox 360 had an almost 17 mio lead in NA and still got outsold by the PS3 worldwide.
Just shows you how strong the PS brand is in Europe and Co.
Europe/PAL basically just counterbalanced America. The real deciding factor was Japan, where the PS brand isn't exactly strong but it's also not nothing like Xbox.
 

Kittenz

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[QUOTE="MatPiscatella, post: 12026085, member: 2785". Honorable mention: Xbox Game Pass Day 1 Games - All of the titles which have launched day 1 on Game Pass have exceeded my sales expectations..[/QUOTE]
Mat - thanks for all your posts. I always find them interesting.

I'd be interested in your take on what Forza Horizon 4 will do. FH3 is arguably the most important game MS has launched this gen and with them buying Playground and it being the first really big "at-launch" AAA+ game for the Pass.

I'm really intrigued to see what happens here.
 

cakely

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This is the shocking thing to me.

I remember ppl laughing at Pro being 1/5 of PS4s sold. Guessing it's higher than they now.

Same for the One X.

Every indication I've seen (and I'd be happy for Mat to chime in on this and tell me that I'm wrong) is that the upgrade consoles each make up about 20% of the total consoles sold for both Xbox One and PlayStation 4.
 

P-Switch

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This is the shocking thing to me.

I remember ppl laughing at Pro being 1/5 of PS4s sold. Guessing it's higher than they now.

Same for the One X.

I really would love to know what XboxOne and ps4 total sales would be in a world that the Pro and X didn't exist. It was a great decision by both companies to deal with the contracting dedicated console market.

Every indication I've seen (and I'd be happy for Mat to chime in on this and tell me that I'm wrong) is that the upgrade consoles each make up about 20% of the total consoles sold for both Xbox One and PlayStation 4.

That is a 2 year old figure and only applied to the ps4 Pro.

I'm sure the ratio has changed since then.
 

Benji

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That is a 2 year old figure and only applied to the ps4 Pro.

I'm sure the ratio has changed since then.

Yup. Both are higher than that on average now days it's an outdated figure

That said the current PS4 Pro shortages are having a negative impact on its split
 

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It really is. And it's crazy that the Xbox 360 had an almost 17 mio lead in NA and still got outsold by the PS3 worldwide.
Just shows you how strong the PS brand is in Europe and Co.
IIRC the main reason was Japan. I mean, 360 also sold 40 million outside of US. That's more than the One has right now in total.
 

Rocco

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Before this causes inevitable confusion for those who don't follow NPD threads, the Xbox One is mentioned because it has the strongest growth year on year following a dreadful 2017. However this doesn't mean the Xbox One is the "strongest performer" or that it is outpacing the PS4, which the Games Industry article doesn't even bother to inform it's still the best selling console in the US in 2018. While in progress compared to 2017, the Xbox One is also behind the Switch for the year.

If anyone reads this article casually without much knowledge of the trends, he can easily thinks that the PS4 has nothing to do with how great the market is doing right now. You can't just talk about the growth year on year without explaining the full picture.

Or one has nothing to do with the other, and not everything is about "console warz". Jeez.
 

BrickArts295

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Do PC sales count for GTA V? If yes, then that would explain why the game keeps ranking. I've been seeing the game at less than $20 these past few months and I already bought it for the third time (PS3, PS4 and now PC) because I got for like $15 mainly because I want to play it at 60fps as well as try some mods. I wouldn't be surprised if others are doing the same.
 

P-Switch

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Yup. Both are higher than that on average now days it's an outdated figure

That said the current PS4 Pro shortages are having a negative impact on its split

Good point to bring out again...I keep forgetting it has had issues this year.

If i remember right that figure was for WW so it could still be the case .

Also @Pswitch it's only a year only data not two years

True, that was said after only 8 months of data. Still, I would have to imagine the ratio got more even over the least year.

Also, it was said that almost half of the ps4 pro's sold those first 8 months were to people who already owned a ps4. I wonder how that % has changed as well?
 

Jaded Alyx

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Do PC sales count for GTA V? If yes, then that would explain why the game keeps ranking. I've been seeing the game at less than $20 these past few months and I already bought it for the third time (PS3, PS4 and now PC) because I got for like $15 mainly because I want to play it at 60fps as well as try some mods. I wouldn't be surprised if others are doing the same.

GTAV keeps charting because it's one of the first games people buy when they buy a PS4/XBO.
 

Liliana

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This kind of stuff is the reason I've been considering stopping posting on the forum sometime in the near future. The level of discourse has gotten extremely rough. I'm trying to hold out but idk if it's worth it really

On topic it's been a tremendous year so far for the industry in 2018. Hardware growth has been great to see, particularly from the Xbox One. People really take for granted how special and important it is we have 3 VERY healthy platforms right now all offering different experiences an strategies. Its why cross console ownership is so high, because all 3 platforms offer a unique spin on the industry.

Don't leave Benji! :( Your knowledge and analysis is always well-regarded and we appreciate your posts. Don't let the usual suspect console warriors ruin things. They don't deserve to enjoy the same hobby we do.

Don't leave Benji! You and a few other peeps make this stuff an actual discussion instead of "Well obviously my e-peen is bigger I bought the PS4! THE SALES WINRAR!"

I could also raise the level of discourse by making a few KY jelly jokes... but I'll admit it's been a few years since I wore the assless chaps necessary for the mindset.

I know you don't want to but I can't encourage you enough to make use of the ignore button. It might sound "coward" but there is no point to argue with people that are arguing in bath faith. Like at all.

It is always the same usual suspects that make some thread unreable/derailed. They don't deserve your frustration.

Always the same people too. It's often easy to just look at the name/avatar and predict what kind of post these individuals will make or what kind of « joke » they'll find funny.

Agreed with all of you. It's so transparent at this point that it's almost expected. Unfortunately.

Crazy how people gets annoyed just because isn't your preferred console that is being highlighted in the news.

Btw, first half of 2018 was the best for Xbox One since launch, so the good performance of this year isn't just because 2017 was weak. The console is healthy on the market, as PS4 and Switch, that's awesome for the industry and for the players.

Hit the nail on the head on both paragraphs.

Man. Thank goodness for that first two thread pages. I almost thought Xbox was viable. Thanks for setting me straight. Was a close one.

God forbid I venture outside of platform-specific threads.

How are there not red mod warnings on half these posts?

Well, one guy caught the hammer, at least.

At least two people in this thread seem to be _very_ upset with Xbox's turnaround and positive outlook. If these results make you upset already, then brace yourselves for the coming years ;)

This is what I keep saying. By the look of all the increasingly positive momentum and other things, certain people are going to have a very tough time next gen. Why not just give up staning for faceless corporations and enjoy our hobby in full? Makes no sense to me.
 

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God damn at god of war! Also holy hell at PS4 being the best selling for the quarter.

Nothing stops this train.
 

LifeLine

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Can someone catch me up on what happened with Roblox?

I remember playing that game when I was a kid and all of a sudden kids now are playing it everywhere. I saw kids playing it in my library recently.
 

Hieroph

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PS4 - God of War. Complete outlier in both metacritic as well as sales performance. No game like it should sell this well when you look at the rest of the market. Absolutely separating itself in just about every way when it comes to sales performance. Never would have seen this level of performance coming. Truly remarkable. Honorable mention to Detroit: Become Human.

How big is the difference between God Of War (4) and GOW3?

Had good expectations for Detroit and it's nice to see it doing well.
 

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It is astounding, the people falling all over themselves to pat Spencer on the back for the amazing growth this year that is equally attributable to them tanking last year's sales by announcing the X over a year before release.
 

Fafalada

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Honorable mention: every indie game coming to eShop.
Given the meteoric expansion of eShop (1000 titles and counting?) is that really the case, or are we just talking notable indies which happen to do well/better than other store-fronts?
It just seems questionable that some stuff on there even gets discovered anymore, let alone sell well (the same problem that happened to XBL/PSN indies 2 years in and has plagued Steam... well for most of this decade. Even if you're closely following weekly releases it's hard to even know more than 10% of released stuff nowadays, and I'm being generous).
 

Liliana

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It is astounding, the people falling all over themselves to pat Spencer on the back for the amazing growth this year that is equally attributable to them tanking last year's sales by announcing the X over a year before release.

Should probably read through the topic next time:

Driving factors for Xbox One sales I'm 2018 are not deals from all data I've seen.

It's the combo of X, Game Pass, and Fortnite. Also just consumers feeling better about the brand in general

Crazy how people gets annoyed just because isn't your preferred console that is being highlighted in the news.

Btw, first half of 2018 was the best for Xbox One since launch, so the good performance of this year isn't just because 2017 was weak. The console is healthy on the market, as PS4 and Switch, that's awesome for the industry and for the players.
 

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PS4 still dominating I see. Well deserved as it's been very strong on the new, high quality software front for quite some time now. Long may the run continue.

Also, reading this article was like some Xbox One = Roman Reigns shit.
 

Calamari41

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Switch - Mario Kart 8 - Top 10 YTD, no signs of slowing down at all. Not super surprising that it's an evergreen, but it's like evergreen+++.

Using the latest official data from Nintendo's financials, Mario Kart 8 across Wii U and Switch combined was sitting at 18.77 million sold worldwide (8.42M as of the end of March for Wii U, 10.35M and the end of June for Switch). This is just over half of Mario Kart Wii's LTD of 37.1 million sold as of the end of March.

All else equal (not knowing if legs might be cut off with the release of a Mario Kart 9 sooner than later for example), do you think MK8 is on the trajectory to beat out MK Wii?

P.S. I don't participate in these threads much but I always enjoy and appreciate your analysis and insight, so thank you.
 

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Should probably read through the topic next time:

And maybe you should get some reading comprehension skills. I said equally attributable and growth for a reason. Since nuance and not cherry picked data points is too tough for you, I'll let you get back to the hyperbolic sensationalism that is this thread.
 

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do you think MK8 is on the trajectory to beat out MK Wii?

P.S. I don't participate in these threads much but I always enjoy and appreciate your analysis and insight, so thank you.

Your guess is as good as mine on this one. Like you say, the big unknown is the possibility of an MK9. Definitely maybe? And thanks for the kind words. I appreciate it.

I was wondering, did you have eshop numbers but aren't allowed to share them, or did you have nothing at all?

We're always working on various pilot programs and tests.

It's best we leave it all in the box.

Fair.
 

Liliana

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And maybe you should get some reading comprehension skills. I said equally attributable and growth for a reason. Since nuance and not cherry picked data points is too tough for you, I'll let you get back to the hyperbolic sensationalism that is this thread.

Sounds like goalpost shifting after being proven wrong. You seem very, very angry about this thread (read: "people falling over themselves" and my favorite "hyperbolic sensationalism") and you are letting that emotion cloud your reading comprehension. You are attributing "equality" in regards to 2017 sales whilst disregarding the fact that Microsoft just had their best year ever, since 2013. But sure, feel free to continue mocking tons of people while ignoring that fact if it makes you feel any better.