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How do you like your puddles?

  • The entire game should take place inside a huge puddle

  • As big as Insomniac's artists want them to be

  • As deep as my knowledge of game development

  • I prefer oceans tbh

  • Don't go chasing Waterfalls


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Bjones

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Oct 30, 2017
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I've got great news if you love puddles.
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Pfft they don't even reflect half the objects on screen.
 

ckareset

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Feb 2, 2018
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So what happens when people get the game and it's not as good looking as the promo pieces? Who will eat crow?
Depends why it's not as good. As long as the animations, textures, models, density, and stuff are still there or the same/better quality how are we suppose to argue whether or not Spiderman looks better shiny or not
 

Bunta

The Fallen
Oct 26, 2017
2,270
You answered my question with a question to undermine my point. That's not an argument, that's just useless.
I apologize, I thought we were posting snarky questions. Someone from DF already posted in another thread about this.

This whole thread is embarrassing
That is drastically different the suit is no where near the same quality or texture etc. I'm sure it will get a pass though.

Excuse the fact that I don't have the direct link.
 

Enforcer

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
2,961
I dismiss the possibility of a downgrade when loads of evidence is presented that refutes it, especially from the people that made the game. No 'lmao' needed.

I don't get this. You know they're tying to sell you the game right?

Witcher 3 did the same thing denying the downgrade. Just saying. I'm not saying they are lying but at the end of the day they want your business. No company will ever admit "yeah we downgraded this".

I'm sure the game will turn out great but people are way too invested to have an actual discussion. It's either no downgrade at all or game is ruined by missing puddles.
 

Bunkles

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Oct 26, 2017
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I see a bunch of sony fans denying reality. I normally don`t care at all. Actually, I`m still buying this day one but it`s undeniable something is happening here. The puddle is the minimum. The shadows and lightining is night and day. REAAAAALLY different. Just shows how they are trying to manipulate the marketing...

Yup, I agree. Another example they'll most likely ignore...

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真棒!

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Nov 24, 2017
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ERA: "This is a gamers enthusiast forum"

ERA: "Gamers are so wack"

LOL!


i mean i saw someone unironically say over in OT that people with video game avatars are probably childish/immature (along with people with anime avatars but that one might be a bit true!!!! hehehe) so yeah


luckily for me I have no avatar so I'm an alpha gamer.
 

Orb

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Oct 27, 2017
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I see a bunch of sony fans denying reality. I normally don`t care at all. Actually, I`m still buying this day one but it`s undeniable something is happening here. The puddle is the minimum. The shadows and lightining is night and day. REAAAAALLY different. Just shows how they are trying to manipulate the marketing...
you think people are looking at the game and thining "god look at those puddles and shadows! I'm buying the game because they look exactly like that!"

this whole thing is fucking stupid
 

Bomblord

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Jan 11, 2018
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Add "and over 1000 responses on resetera" to the title. xP

Yes I know I'm technically part of that now but it's impossible to say anything and not be.
 

gundamkyoukai

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Oct 25, 2017
21,127
The evidence Insomniac provided are from different parts of the game, it's hard to compare. So I'm not buying either side here. I don't even think a downgrade is that big of a deal. I mean, hey, whatever needs to be done to get the game running! If there is not downgrade, great. But the current state of that specific scene is not an improvement.
With two different states of the same scene being shown with striking differences, people will question. And anyone can notice that puddles are not the only change in that screenshot.

The can ask question and the devs even give them answers but they don't like it .
Everyone can see there is a difference and some don't like it .
But being different don't mean downgrade tech wise.
 

Decarb

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Oct 27, 2017
8,643
Here's the deal: Spider-Man's hype has been very clean and unadulterated so far. There has been no opening for fanboys. No concerns about a dramatic change like with God of War, no concerns about an overdone genre like with Days Gone, no "Ubisoft open world" concerns like with Horizon, no concerns about Polyphony fucking things up like with Gran Turismo Sport, no usual Sony third person action game shenanigans like with, well, anything else that they make, nothing. Spider-Man so far has given no opening to people who are looking for some way to undermine it. Which means this one fucking puddle, which in a sane world would literally not matter has become what they have seized on. And that's why it has become such a big deal- because all "GAMERS CAN UNITE" over a graphical downgrade. It's ammunition for concern trolls and in the console war, plain and simple.

This post should be stickied in the OP. The morons (yes I mean that word) on reddit and Twitter are really putting up an embarrassing shitshow.
 

Deleted member 44129

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May 29, 2018
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You would have to downgrade this a LOT for my hype to be lowered.

Also, GET OVER IT. Early footage is always subject to change. That's just how it is.
 

Kalor

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Oct 25, 2017
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This whole thing is stupid. Some people don't know how lighting works apparently. You'd think that the devs showing that nothing was downgraded would end this whole thing.
 

NinjaScooter

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Oct 25, 2017
54,152
Some gamers feel empowered by shit like this to the point that they start seeing what want to see. Everything is a cause.
 

Shark

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Oct 28, 2017
8,126
Raleigh, NC
The evidence Insomniac provided are from different parts of the game, it's hard to compare. So I'm not buying either side here. I don't even think a downgrade is that big of a deal. I mean, hey, whatever needs to be done to get the game running!
But with two different states of the same scene being shown with striking differences, people will question. And anyone can notice that puddles are not the only change in that screenshot.
How can they show the same scene to prove it isn't downgraded when they said they changed the scene? Of course they are showing other spots with puddles to show that it was a decision they made for that specific area. If they had to remove the puddle from that one specific spot on the building, why would there be lots more puddles in other spots? The lighting was changed as well. This is a game with set weather/TOD so it's pretty reasonable to surmise that they made an artistic decision to change the sun placement when that scene is taking place compared to the older version.

This I'd liked answered by the 'Team Downgrade' people: If Insomniac was trying to deceive people, why would they show the same exact place in two different trailers, closer to the game's release if it was downgraded? Wouldn't that be something you'd intentionally obfuscate? It makes no sense if there was a downgrade that they'd leave it in. They thought nothing of it because they just made artistic changes that only they know the reasons for.
 
Nov 27, 2017
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Suit does look downgraded in the first post so yeah I'm be more worried about that than puddles

April fools will be a Spider-Man puddle suit or the entire game covered in puddles

Still day one of course
 

Gestault

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Oct 26, 2017
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The more I follow these reactions, the more myopic I realize people can be in this hobby, and I feel like it's in pursuit of a misguided sense that "big companies" need to be put in their place. This degree of negativity is insane and demoralizing. I think the best thing people can do, given what's happening, is to politely but firmly call out this shit whenever you see it. Honestly, even that IGN write-up doesn't contextualize the half dozen obvious explanations for why there could be reasonable differences between the images. There's (deserved) mockery in the headline, but I think they need to go further to help anyone in their editorial niche understand why this is such nonsense. I don't think this is the time to bow to the absurdity; this vapid negativity about something so inconsequential is increasingly shrill.
 
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