Depends why it's not as good. As long as the animations, textures, models, density, and stuff are still there or the same/better quality how are we suppose to argue whether or not Spiderman looks better shiny or notSo what happens when people get the game and it's not as good looking as the promo pieces? Who will eat crow?
I apologize, I thought we were posting snarky questions. Someone from DF already posted in another thread about this.You answered my question with a question to undermine my point. That's not an argument, that's just useless.
That is drastically different the suit is no where near the same quality or texture etc. I'm sure it will get a pass though.
Both things you said are trueERA: "This is a gamers enthusiast forum"
ERA: "Gamers are so wack"
LOL!
I dismiss the possibility of a downgrade when loads of evidence is presented that refutes it, especially from the people that made the game. No 'lmao' needed.
I see a bunch of sony fans denying reality. I normally don`t care at all. Actually, I`m still buying this day one but it`s undeniable something is happening here. The puddle is the minimum. The shadows and lightining is night and day. REAAAAALLY different. Just shows how they are trying to manipulate the marketing...
ERA: "This is a gamers enthusiast forum"
ERA: "Gamers are so wack"
LOL!
Will you eat crow when it turns out your wrong? I doubt it but you will provide anaylsis saying it was downgraded with no proof.You answered my question with a question to undermine my point. That's not an argument, that's just useless.
you think people are looking at the game and thining "god look at those puddles and shadows! I'm buying the game because they look exactly like that!"I see a bunch of sony fans denying reality. I normally don`t care at all. Actually, I`m still buying this day one but it`s undeniable something is happening here. The puddle is the minimum. The shadows and lightining is night and day. REAAAAALLY different. Just shows how they are trying to manipulate the marketing...
I cant tell if this is sarcasm or not but this is from the same build
The evidence Insomniac provided are from different parts of the game, it's hard to compare. So I'm not buying either side here. I don't even think a downgrade is that big of a deal. I mean, hey, whatever needs to be done to get the game running! If there is not downgrade, great. But the current state of that specific scene is not an improvement.
With two different states of the same scene being shown with striking differences, people will question. And anyone can notice that puddles are not the only change in that screenshot.
Here's the deal: Spider-Man's hype has been very clean and unadulterated so far. There has been no opening for fanboys. No concerns about a dramatic change like with God of War, no concerns about an overdone genre like with Days Gone, no "Ubisoft open world" concerns like with Horizon, no concerns about Polyphony fucking things up like with Gran Turismo Sport, no usual Sony third person action game shenanigans like with, well, anything else that they make, nothing. Spider-Man so far has given no opening to people who are looking for some way to undermine it. Which means this one fucking puddle, which in a sane world would literally not matter has become what they have seized on. And that's why it has become such a big deal- because all "GAMERS CAN UNITE" over a graphical downgrade. It's ammunition for concern trolls and in the console war, plain and simple.
You answered my question with a question to undermine my point. That's not an argument, that's just useless.
How can they show the same scene to prove it isn't downgraded when they said they changed the scene? Of course they are showing other spots with puddles to show that it was a decision they made for that specific area. If they had to remove the puddle from that one specific spot on the building, why would there be lots more puddles in other spots? The lighting was changed as well. This is a game with set weather/TOD so it's pretty reasonable to surmise that they made an artistic decision to change the sun placement when that scene is taking place compared to the older version.The evidence Insomniac provided are from different parts of the game, it's hard to compare. So I'm not buying either side here. I don't even think a downgrade is that big of a deal. I mean, hey, whatever needs to be done to get the game running!
But with two different states of the same scene being shown with striking differences, people will question. And anyone can notice that puddles are not the only change in that screenshot.
I cannot even tell what is serious and what is a joke in here anymore.
Yeah but the puddle may be smaller than it was earlier in the yearJonneh given Puddle-gate is a thing, do I still have to sit in a puddle if Animal Crossing doesn't come out this year?
Here is another comparison I'm surprised hasn't been posted yet in this thread.
if -gate is added at the end of anything these days you can be fairly sure it's being advanced by dipshits
That's kind of all Era is good for now, just a laugh, barely any nuanced discussion.That's one of the main reason I come here and spend about 30 min to an hour a day just reading all the hot takes. Find them most of them hilarious, like people really getting worked up on downgrades
You're point was stupid to begin with, it was well undermined by a simple question.You answered my question with a question to undermine my point. That's not an argument, that's just useless.
PerfectYeah but the puddle may be smaller than it was earlier in the year
This...is from the same build to show lighting affects the look of the suit
Thats the point.
Go outside. Take a picture of something in full sunlight and something covered in shadow. Compare the two pictures. You just 'downgraded' your photo.
It literally has nothing to do with the puddle. People are mad that the AO, shadows and detail due to indirect lighting were changed. Not removed but changed. Saying it was only down to a puddle is misleading.Fucking perfection.
Really captures the current embarrassing state of that reddit and this Era thread.
what the hell are we supposed to be looking at here? the lighting is completely different so how can you possibly compare?