Is it better to believe people who just look at one screenshot and not the numerous recent videos?
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We Ben Reilly talking about puddles: Spider-Man controversy gets high numbers of upvotes on Reddit
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Humanity is going nowhere because we have thousands of people arguing online about how good the puddles look in a Spider-man game.
Actually looking forward to somebody doing a side-by-side comparision of this section to see what visual changes were made and what downgrades may or may not have taken place. I find stuff like Pre-release vs Retail comparisions absolutely fascinating! The bigger cases like Rainbow Six Seige and Watchdogs in particular were amazing to look at and compare.
It's because there's nothing to debate. You're right that there's two sides, you just got them wrong. There's the side trying to see downgrades in a bunch of compressed footage of a game and freaking the fuck out over anything that changed in the game over the course of a year in development for no good reason. Then you have the other side who are pointing out how completely stupid and overreactive it is to do that.
So yeah, saying stuff like "gamers are the worst" is happening because a bunch of them are making a big deal over nothing and it's embarrassing. At least it'll be forgotten in a few hours.
Yeah ok prefer the suit. It gives it a more natural, realistic look. However the shadows, missing AO and reflections are unfortunate. Fortunately however they're there for other scenes and it seems like it was all just changed for this particular scene.
gamers apparently want games to be seen as art but they routinely treat the medium like this.
Instead of listening to the people making it you'd rather listen to someone wholly uninvolved in the project with no knowledge about the game's development?
In al seriousness now. To me 20017 looks better. I don't know if the game received a downgrade or not. I don't have any reason to not trust the devs, but if the game had been downgraded would they really say it? I don't know.
Anyway, if what they're saying is true, I feel bad for them.
Anyway, if what they're saying is true, I feel bad for them.
What did they fuck up? When reviews hit and the game hits next week this shit isn't even going to matter. You'll have some people still crying about it while others are having the time of their lives playing the game.
I can promise you a lot of these people on reddit aren't even getting the game. Just jumping on a bandwagon. After this game comes out. They'll be outraged by COD, Then RDR2. Then Fallout.
you could've at least told me which picture we were arguing about lol
It's a dumb thing to say. Was GAF 360 bias during the hey-day of that gen?
It doesn't matter to me, and I'm still getting it. But at the same time I'm not going to pretend there isn't a difference in the shots provided.
Yes, you should trust the devs and not some twat on reddit, especially when we have a guy from Insomniac that posts on this forum.
That puddle so big we might as well consider it a water level.
There a lot of things we can't handle, the f word being used often and puddles are two of them.
There a lot of things we can't handle, the f word being used often and puddles are two of them.
Actually we've seen proof of tons of upgrades. The game was improved visually from the initial reveal. Better lighting, better hair and facial details, reflections in windows, more details on the street for storefronts and other street elements, and so on
reason 8,367 why I never admit to being a "gamer"
"Hey, you play games right?"
".....................................I guess." *pretends not to already know 99% of whatever they are going to talk to me about*
When devs share proof and logical explainations to support their comments, then yes you should believe devs over people who have no idea what they're talking about
Pretty much. The console warriors/concern trolls tried with the air hang movement physics and failed miserably. They'll fail miserably with this as well. The game just looks fucking beautiful in motion and the final product easily reflects that.
Nobody claims there isn't a difference. It's about the nature of the difference.
People really have to stop using 'clearly' in this thread.
Pretty much everything.
This tops is going in circles someone will post in here and say "clearly" then someone has to explain again for the 400th time in this isnt the case.
everyone who Posts about downgrades deserves to be openly ridiculed in the streets. Like, struggle session type shit.
So what happens when people get the game and it's not as good looking as the promo pieces? Who will eat crow?
I've got great news if you love puddles.
Mmmmm... I dig those puddles in a naughty way.
What happens when DF posts their analysis and it hasn't been downgraded? Who will eat crow?
It's impressive how many times this gen low quality pictures have been used to propel claims of downgrades. And it almost is never true.
You answered my question with a question to undermine my point. That's not an argument, that's just useless.
I've got great news if you love puddles.
Damn look at that resolution downgrade!
I hope you thank them for using their expertise to make you better at what you do.
The evidence Insomniac provided are from different parts of the game, it's hard to compare. So I'm not buying either side here. I don't even think a downgrade is that big of a deal. I mean, hey, whatever needs to be done to get the game running! If there is not downgrade, great. But the current state of that specific scene is not an improvement.
With two different states of the same scene being shown with striking differences, people will question. And anyone can notice that puddles are not the only change in that screenshot.
There is gameplay out there of the actual boxed copy already.
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