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We Ben Reilly talking about puddles: Spider-Man controversy gets high numbers of upvotes on Reddit
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Two images not being exactly the same doesn't instantly equal downgrade. For example, changing or brightening the lighting of a scene would naturally change and lessen the shadows in a scene. One scene having more shadows and the other having less doesn't mean the lighting was downgraded
Because this isn't the same thing as stuff like the Watch Dogs downgrade. It's crazy to imply that this is the same thing, looks more like gamer entitlement and obssession with graphics than anything else.
yeah, it's kind of anime but that's the style of combat in the game. Don't think there's any kind of reasoning behind it other than giving the player more time/control of the moveset.
The upvote count on reddit is increasing about 1k per less than one minute. Hows that even possible?
As for me, I couldn't care less if it looks different, or has less puddles, etc. The game so far looks visually great.
As for me, I couldn't care less if it looks different, or has less puddles, etc. The game so far looks visually great.
Look at that left arm where the shadowing happens, thats not just because of a lighting change, that model has less polygons used. Its literally not noticeable for 99% of people and I don't care but it is a difference
This shit reminds me to yeneffer's hair all over again.
People became incredibly stupid after the ubisoft watchdogs fiasco, they are trying to look at every texture or light change to cry wolf, instead of thinking with their fucking heads.
The next showings of Cyberpunk are going to be the carnival of stupid, because of artistic or gameplay changes than some people will say downgrade.
Its funny why some pople asked if it was really necessary to say "WIP" every 5 minutes in the CP demo. Its for stupid people like this and thats why devs will never open up to consumers.
People became incredibly stupid after the ubisoft watchdogs fiasco, they are trying to look at every texture or light change to cry wolf, instead of thinking with their fucking heads.
The next showings of Cyberpunk are going to be the carnival of stupid, because of artistic or gameplay changes than some people will say downgrade.
Its funny why some pople asked if it was really necessary to say "WIP" every 5 minutes in the CP demo. Its for stupid people like this and thats why devs will never open up to consumers.
I feel bad for devs who have to put up with nonsense like this. Give me a break. People love to always just have something to complain about
It's because Reddit is the one making noise about it.
100% truth. Both here and on GAF.
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Oh wait...
The EA Battlefront II posts got hit pretty hard too.
People on Reddit eat this stuff up, for some reason.
Oh wait...
The EA Battlefront II posts got hit pretty hard too.
People on Reddit eat this stuff up, for some reason.
Yeah . It's obvious there's some downgrades but people defending this game to hell
It is a replicated shot from the final release made on ps4 pro.
I personally believe the game has been downgraded, there are some comparisons where it looks a bit better, but there are many shots where it a lot worse. Still gonna play it but to me its undeniable and i believe if it were ubisoft or ea there would be a fucking outrage here
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Well if that's what it is then I don't even know why we're even entertaining this.
I doubt its anything new fro devs lucky the game is very closed to release.
Never underestimate the potential of a good ol' Reddit circlejerk. Especially for an exclusive.
I'm willing to bet that a huge bulk of the up votes are coming from people who don't even own a PS4 or had no intention of ever even buying Spider-Man.
Crap like this is why CD Projekt didn't wan't to release that Cyberpunk demo. We need to stop doing this, games get optimized and things change. Would you rather have that giant puddle or better smoother framerate? The game still looks fantastic.
No, it's because it's silly. Nothing more, I don't give a crap if it was started here on ERA or Reddit, it's still silly.
People crying downgrade are laughable, and have little to no technical knowledge, if only for one simple reason: that scene in the OP does not exist in a vacuum. Other scenes have shown effects and graphical features still exist in abundance.
Okay, list EXACTLY what has been downgraded in this game. And don't just say something like "lighting." What ABOUT the lighting was downgraded? I want to hear specifics if you're going to make an accusation like that.
Okay, list EXACTLY what has been downgraded in this game. And don't just say something like "lighting." What ABOUT the lighting was downgraded? I want to hear specifics if you're going to make an accusation like that.
Did you actually think these screenshots were direct feed shots?
I feel like this should be the bigger dealHere's a different segment of the game from the latest build. Sure looks like puddles have gone....lol.
Why does he swing when he can just fly
I mean... It's silly but there is definitely without a doubt a downgrade in graphics... At least from those posts
We've had downgrade discussions for so many games... If there is something behind it, then of course it can and should be discussed. I mean it's not like it's making the gameplay worse or something like that.
What? Lol, have you quoted the wrong person? Nothing in the tweets has indicated anything apart from a puddle change.
Look at the walls, the floor, the lighting on the suit (it's the same suit). Again. This isn't a problem to me and personally I don't give a flying fuck whether it now looks like a PS2 game because I'll still be there day one. However it IS disengenous to say that the lighting in the OP hasn't been changed. People aren't blind. It's not a gold dress or blue dress scenario. It's right there in the OP.
I think it is equally ridiculous how you are not happy about the person's usage of gamers. Using gamers isn't this context isn't wrong. Going on a #notallgamers isn't much better. It might be better for you to divorce yourself from the concept of gamers. If you want to wrap your identity around something as intangible as gamer do it, but don't get angry when others whose identity isn't link to this concept don't feel the same as you do.
Don't take it personal. Being a "gamer" isn't a special class that doesn't preclude stupid kids, assholes and bigots. You can be all those things and still be a gamer.
Our only hope is that Sony will finally implement the long speculated "Puddle Mode" for the PS4 Pro, which increases the amount of puddles across all games.
You nailed it. On era you can't complain about a sony first party without getting crucified. The bias this very thread is showing is unbelievable.
I think the only comparison that I've seen and I'd call a downgrade is where he's backflipping off a building over top of traffic. The 'release' version has no smoke/fog, maybe a little under half the vehicles below, etc... Could be just time of day and traffic patterns, but it still adds up to a lot less going on in the scene and it looking worse - from the pre-release footage of the same spot - as a result.
Nah, people are terrible about things like this in general but gamers are particularly bad about it. Part of that is just due to the size of the communities involved, but there is a degree of widespread entitlement and anger over minor bullshit that they do not actually understand that is not really shared by those other things.
There's also a difference between demographics that makes flipping out over pop stars more understandable.
I also think it looks worse in those screens but it's kind of foolish to make a real judgment when all there is are some bad quality screenshots.
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The white part of his suit? Because that same angle on the armor piece is still there in the screenshot I just posted..
There aren't less polygons.
Well they could have gone the CDPR route and made the gameplay demo look suitably rough around the edges, but then people would complain about the bad graphics. There's no pleasing everybody
No, there's loads of 'doubt' and evidence in this very thread that directly refutes it. Weird how Bunta seems to not be getting a lot of quotes for his posts in here from the downgrade folks.
Exactly. It's really weird. I'm going to buy this game no matter what and this doesn't affect me but it's blatantly apparent.
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