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samred

Amico fun conversationalist
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Nov 4, 2017
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The media embargo is the 4th right? I'd like to see some free roam.

Unless that's just the review embargo.

Critics who agree to the embargo can say that they have the game, and that reviews will go live on Tuesday. That's it. (The box/disc can be shown if an outlet received anything in the mail, as opposed to a download code.)

Ars Technica's review will go live on Tuesday.
 

Ascenion

Prophet of Truth - One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
10,098
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Alright, bumping this thread with new story spoilers and other details.

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The 4chan leaker says that Doc Ock and Norman founded Oscorp together and that Norman performed unethical experiments on Mr Negative's family, killing them and giving Martin Li his powers. He also says that Aunt May dies in the end and that there's a bunch of other plot twists that we don't know about.

There are stealth missions that has you controlling as Miles (just like MJ)

Apparently the Electro + Vulture boss fight is absolutely nuts and a game highlight

Base game side villains actually include Black Cat and Tombstone alongside Taskmaster, you don't fight them though.

At the end of the game, Miles gets bitten and actually shows off his powers to Peter.

He says that Silver Sable is more of an anti-hero in the game

Man, I just want to know what the Velocity Suit does. No leaker has even mentioned the suit power so far. If it's really a speed boost then I know what I'll be sticking with.

I hope this isn't true. Aunt May dying is not okay, Octavius is not needed to found Oscorp so that's a hell no. Fuck stealth missions, those are never fun. This legit sounds like Cursed Child level fan fiction.
 

Turquoise

Banned
Apr 7, 2018
247
Listen, you can have your opinions and everything. But since those are only opinions, why not just say "I don't like Spider-Man's villains" instead of saying "they are BAD" in a thread full of Spider-Man fans ? This make you sound like you don't come with good intentions here.
Considering saying they are bad is comepletely subjective I would think people would know it's my opinion. Sorry i can't get deeply invested in the story when I'm fighting the great Rhino, the devilish scorpion and the oh so fearsome doc ock who strangely looks like Dan Slott. I simply just find it hard to invest myself in the story when the leaked bosses in my opinion are nonthreatining. Like when I saw the e3 gameplay I was like "Oh the sinister six guess it will be fun clobbering them" instead of thinking of the story ramifications and plot. You feel like the story will be amazing and that's fine. I'm just excited for the game becauae it's a graphically amazing spidey game and will possibly have the best gameplay we have ever seen for the character. But for the story I'm not expecting much
 

Ascenion

Prophet of Truth - One Winged Slayer
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Why is it hell no, not okay? Because it's different from the source material?

To an extent, why stray this far from the source material? Aunt May seems relatively senseless to kill and I'm positive the story justification is gonna be weak. Mister Negative is being given too much spotlight. He isn't sinister six caliber and I'm positive Aunt May's death is related to him. Octavius founding oscorp is just...why? That to me undermines Norman's character. There's way too much Dan Slott influence and I'm not standing for it.
 

More_Badass

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Oct 25, 2017
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To an extent, why stray this far from the source material? Aunt May seems relatively senseless to kill and I'm positive the story justification is gonna be weak. Mister Negative is being given too much spotlight. He isn't sinister six caliber and I'm positive Aunt May's death is related to him. Octavius founding oscorp is just...why? That to me undermines Norman's character. There's way too much Dan Slott influence and I'm not standing for it.
You can't say it's relatively senseless or that you're positive about story justification or that something undermines X's character, when you have no idea of what the story is or the context in which such elements are presented

Without context, it's just kneejerk reaction

And I mean, Peter's family and friends dying has been a part of Spider-Man stories for decades.
 

gundamkyoukai

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Oct 25, 2017
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To an extent, why stray this far from the source material? Aunt May seems relatively senseless to kill and I'm positive the story justification is gonna be weak. Mister Negative is being given too much spotlight. He isn't sinister six caliber and I'm positive Aunt May's death is related to him. Octavius founding oscorp is just...why? That to me undermines Norman's character. There's way too much Dan Slott influence and I'm not standing for it.

Aunt may should have died years ago.
I am happy that we not getting the same stuff over and over .
 

RROCKMAN

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
10,824
So long as it doesnt have a one more day type sequel I'm down. But it is really mean to Pete to kill off Aunt May like that. Especially if this one has already lost Gwen Stacy.
 

Ascenion

Prophet of Truth - One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
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You can't say it's relatively senseless or that you're positive about story justification or that something undermines X's character, when you have no idea of what the story is or the context in which such elements are presented

Without context, it's just kneejerk reaction

And I mean, Peter's family and friends dying has been a part of Spider-Man stories for decades.

It doesn't take a whole lot to infer what's going to happen. The story sounds lackluster and again Dan Slott influenced. I can't stand his Spider-Man. The fact they consulted with him was off putting, and now these leaks confirm this isn't the game for me. I don't need context I've seen enough. I'm out.

Aunt may should have died years ago.
I am happy that we not getting the same stuff over and over .

You can still be respectful and not go too far. It's like they only want one Peter Spider-Man game and I'm not here for that.
 

Lord Vatek

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Jan 18, 2018
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Phew at least Peter isn't married so he can't trade his marriage to Mephisto to bring Aunt May back.
 

Rogue

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Nov 7, 2017
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Behind you
To an extent, why stray this far from the source material? Aunt May seems relatively senseless to kill and I'm positive the story justification is gonna be weak. Mister Negative is being given too much spotlight. He isn't sinister six caliber and I'm positive Aunt May's death is related to him. Octavius founding oscorp is just...why? That to me undermines Norman's character. There's way too much Dan Slott influence and I'm not standing for it.

I thought Christos Gage was the main comic influencer on this one.
 
Oct 25, 2017
29,498
Yeah no just no, that honour goes to the "Amazing" Spider-Man costume, which is so far removed from the original design that it looked like a knock off.

The Homecoming suit is at least playing homage to the original design.
I don't even know, I feel like at least amazing 1 took a chance doing something original(though horrendous)
While MCU did nothing with it and still created the worst single element of any suit(terrible unreadable webbing)
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People can dump on raised webbing all they want at least it is appropriately visible and provides enough contrast.
 
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Nesotenso

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Oct 26, 2017
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Alright, bumping this thread with new story spoilers and other details.

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The 4chan leaker says that Doc Ock and Norman founded Oscorp together and that Norman performed unethical experiments on Mr Negative's family, killing them and giving Martin Li his powers. He also says that Aunt May dies in the end and that there's a bunch of other plot twists that we don't know about.

There are stealth missions that has you controlling as Miles (just like MJ)

Apparently the Electro + Vulture boss fight is absolutely nuts and a game highlight

Base game side villains actually include Black Cat and Tombstone alongside Taskmaster, you don't fight them though.

At the end of the game, Miles gets bitten and actually shows off his powers to Peter.

He says that Silver Sable is more of an anti-hero in the game

Man, I just want to know what the Velocity Suit does. No leaker has even mentioned the suit power so far. If it's really a speed boost then I know what I'll be sticking with.

I am ok with all of this with two exceptions.

1) I hope that the Black Cat / Spidey dynamic is more the playful, flirty type and not the evil crimelord shit Slott has done
2) Not a big fan of Miles or the other Spider-derivatives. I hope any sequel doesn't take away the focus from Peter. For the first time we have Spider-man getting the AAA treatment and if instead of focusing on Spidey's great supporting cast, we are spending time with boring ass Miles it's going to be disappointing.
 

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Time Square across generations. Poor quality I know, just wanted to show the comparison in scale

Spiderman 2 | Ultimate Spiderman | Web of Shadows | Amazing Spiderman 2

Spiderman 2018

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Man they even worked in the steps and how Broadway (on the left) was converted into an open walking space. Gonna be nice looking at all of these details as a New Yorker.
 

PadWarrior

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Oct 25, 2017
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The more I hear the more I'm losing interest. Having to do stealth as mj is bad enough but now miles as well? And not a fan of mr negative getting so much spotlight. Spidey has so many better options for villains.
 

Strings

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More_Badass

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Oct 25, 2017
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The more I hear the more I'm losing interest. Having to do stealth as mj is bad enough but now miles as well? And not a fan of mr negative getting so much spotlight. Spidey has so many better options for villains.
The main reason for them using Mr Negative is the personal dynamic between him and Peter and Aunt May. Spider-Man villains are great because of Peter, how they affect Peter's life beyond the mask. All his best rogues reflect this element, so Insomniac deciding to give a lesser-known relatively new villain the spotlight and focusing on that very integral aspect of what makes Spidey's villains unique is really smart.

Sure you could make Osborne as the main villain again but that's been done so many times.

What makes other villains better options? Because they're simply a bigger or more dynamic threat, because they're more popular, etc?
 
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Strings

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Oct 27, 2017
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The main reason for them using Mr Negative is the personal dynamic between him and Peter and Aunt May. Spider-Man villains are great because of Peter, how they affect Peter's life beyond the mask. All his best rogues reflect this element, so Insomniac deciding to give a lesser-known relatively new villain the spotlight and focusing on that very integral aspect of what makes Spidey's villains unique is really smart.

Sure you could make Osborne as the main villain again but that's been done so many times.

What makes other villains better options? Because they're simply a bigger or more dynamic threat, because they're more popular, etc?
Yeah, Negative is one of the few villains from Slott's run that I think is worthwhile and has a good dynamic across the Peter / Spidey combo. Just keep unbearably awful characters like Screwball away from this (and his interpretations of Doc Ock, Black Cat, etc).
 

PadWarrior

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Oct 25, 2017
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Has the leaker said how long your forced to play as miles and MJ? This game has went from a day one purchase to a wait and see for me. Some odd decisions I'm not liking.
 

skillzilla81

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Oct 25, 2017
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I mean... We have tons of games and media doing stuff with the well known villains and well trod story beats.

Happy to hear the game is going to try some unique things.
 

Billfisto

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Oct 30, 2017
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Canada
If aunt May dies at the end, I wonder what tone will those three dlc chapters have.

Spoilers: Spidey is a mess and won't stop crying or leave his room. The first DLC comes with a costume that's just Spidey's normal costume, but the cheeks are tear-stained. The special power is that he blows his nose.

For the first DLC you play as Miles and try to convince Peter to leave his room. The second DLC you play as MJ and do some sneaking. Third DLC you finally play as Peter Parker, but you just watch Emissary of Hell Japanese Spider-Man use Leopardon to fight Fin Fang Foom through your bedroom window.
 

Kishido

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Oct 27, 2017
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Wait what so Miles get powers... doesn't that mean we will have 2 Spider-Man in the sequels
 

Geldboom

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Oct 28, 2017
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Wait what so Miles get powers... doesn't that mean we will have 2 Spider-Man in the sequels

Probally, they can do a lot to make Miles play different since he has different spider-powers.

I do hope they give Miles his own spider themed name, never was a huge fan of multipel heroes having the same name.
 

chaosaeon

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Oct 26, 2017
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Maybe it's best to say here but I just read there's no Raimi suit ...
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Seriously ? You have 30+ suits in the game and leave out one of the most requested and recognizable suits from a whole trilogy of major films ...
It's not even my favorite suit, but damn that's a head scratcher. And then it'd have to be DLC which might feel like a real cheap shot to hold something like that back.
 

Geldboom

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Oct 28, 2017
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Maybe it's best to say here but I just read there's no Raimi suit ...
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Seriously ? You have 30+ suits in the game and leave out one of the most requested and recognizable suits from a whole trilogy of major films ...
It's not even my favorite suit, but damn that's a head scratcher. And then it'd have to be DLC which might feel like a real cheap shot to hold something like that back.

Its unconfirmed if we are going to have 30+... So don't expect it.

Also, is the raimi suit that big a deal??
All the past spider-man games since the raimi game's did not have that suit in it.
 

PlanetSmasher

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Oct 25, 2017
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Can anyone tell me if Mysterio is in the game at all? I know he's not a major villain, but does anyone know if he's involved in any side missions or side stories or anything? :(
 

PlanetSmasher

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Oct 25, 2017
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I feel that mysterio would be a good sequil villain, he shouldn't just be a side-quest jobber.
You can do so much with him, kinda like scarecrow in the arkham games.

I don't disagree, the gameplay potential for him is so damn great. That's why it stings to hear he's not in the game at all. I'm tired of fighting jobbers like Shocker all the time.
 
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vestan

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Dec 28, 2017
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Someone on 4chan is leaking design materials

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Also apparantly this is the 90s TAS outfit