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TC McQueen

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I will say, I'm a bit disappointed that the narrative of VC4 is set to take place at the same time as VC1. I get "different angles on the war", etc., but there is always something missing for me when I know, broadly, how a story will end (as much as the details may or may not matter to the story they wish to tell now). Still getting it Day 1, and beggars can't be choosers and all that, but I do wish it were a different war, period, etc.
It's a soft reboot. Them going back to the one good general time period they have in the franchise is pretty understandable, since they're basically reintroducing the franchise to most of the world and the old fans (including the PC players) like it. I imagine that if VC5 happens, they'll move past EW2.
 

spman2099

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Man, people are going full gamergate in the youtube section for the more recent podcast. I feel like the allies do a great job of just staying away from controversies. It is brutal that Ian makes one comment and people start throwing fits. I know it is the youtube comments section, and that is usually a place for evil, but I thought that the Easy Allies channel was one of the few exceptions...

The community has generally been pretty respectful. It makes me sad to see how susceptible to the same old crap such an incredibly positive group of people are. I feel like they should have bought a little more good will with the fans than that.

By the way, I hope this doesn't change the way Ian conducts himself. He is always a great addition and I love how he speaks his mind.
 

ShadyK54

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Oct 25, 2017
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Man, people are going full gamergate in the youtube section for the more recent podcast. I feel like the allies do a great job of just staying away from controversies. It is brutal that Ian makes one comment and people start throwing fits. I know it is the youtube comments section, and that is usually a place for evil, but I thought that the Easy Allies channel was one of the few exceptions...

The community has generally been pretty respectful. It makes me sad to see how susceptible to the same old crap such an incredibly positive group of people are. I feel like they should have bought a little more good will with the fans than that.

By the way, I hope this doesn't change the way Ian conducts himself. He is always a great addition and I love how he speaks his mind.

Unfortunately not. It'll usually find a way to show itself eventually, no matter the video. Even moreso if Ian is somehow involved because certain people just have this crazy vendetta against him. It's crazy and sad.
 

Wiibomb

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Oct 25, 2017
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Man, people are going full gamergate in the youtube section for the more recent podcast. I feel like the allies do a great job of just staying away from controversies. It is brutal that Ian makes one comment and people start throwing fits. I know it is the youtube comments section, and that is usually a place for evil, but I thought that the Easy Allies channel was one of the few exceptions...

The community has generally been pretty respectful. It makes me sad to see how susceptible to the same old crap such an incredibly positive group of people are. I feel like they should have bought a little more good will with the fans than that.

By the way, I hope this doesn't change the way Ian conducts himself. He is always a great addition and I love how he speaks his mind.

it's always been like this, communities grow and attract people from all kinds of backgrounds, the important par here is how the allies handle them. I don't think they have been bad at it.
 
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Ian is fast becoming my favorite ally. I was glad he got that little shoutout in love and respect and a lot of love for Opinion Yell.
 

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I haven't looked at the comments, but have gotten a gist of it based on what people are saying. It's strange that these people are singling Ian out, because Kyle and the rest of the allies present all agreed with the sentiments he expressed. Kyle even said "That is the official EZA stance going forward" (paraphrasing).

More importantly I am constantly confused why these people are even following the allies, when they make it so clear that they have an attitude of love, respect and tolerance for others. If it's a closed minded and bigoted stance they're looking for, I'm sure there are other channels that share their sentiments?
 

spman2099

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People keep saying time and time again. Stop going to youtube comments.

But like flies to shit, it can't be helped.

Wisdom to live by. That being said, in the past I ventured into the Easy Allies comment section and they were really friendly. There are a couple of other places where I have seen generally positive comments on youtube (like the Art Assignment).

Still, yeah, don't be surprised if people are being awful in the youtube comment section should be common knowledge at this point I guess. *sigh*

More importantly I am constantly confused why these people are even following the allies, when they make it so clear that they have an attitude of love, respect and tolerance for others. If it's a closed minded and bigoted stance they're looking for, I'm sure there are other channels that share their sentiments?

I assume one of the more conservative fans took issue with it and posted in one of the gamergate hiveminds. A lot of the comments are shitty enough that I have a hard time believing that they would regularly have anything to do with the Easy Allies.
 

Lexad

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I am not sure why Ian gets the hate he does considering I am about as opposite politically (and presumably religiously) as he is. Has to be some insecurity thing for folks. I always love when he is on the podcast. I had the opportunity to show my appreciation at PAX and we had a good discussion for a bit. I told him that personally easy update isn't my thing but I still love all of the contributions he provides to the allies and not sure why people can't dissociate that. He really seemed to appreciate the talk.
 

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I assume one of the more conservative fans took issue with it and posted in one of the gamergate hiveminds. A lot of the comments are shitty enough that I have a hard time believing that they would regularly have anything to do with the Easy Allies.

I sometimes suspect the same thing. I remember in the comments section of the episode where PDP was brought up during the L&R section, some of the comments were straight up insulting the intelligence of the allies (because they said don't use racial slurs...). I can't fathom how such a person would be a regular viewer. These comments were also somehow the most upvoted comments, too, so that theory of having like minded people mass upvote certain comments has merit, I guess. Either way I have avoided looking at the comments since then, since I know there's a decent chance it'll just make my blood boil.
 
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I am not sure why Ian gets the hate he does considering I am about as opposite politically (and presumably religiously) as he is. Has to be some insecurity thing for folks. I always love when he is on the podcast. I had the opportunity to show my appreciation at PAX and we had a good discussion for a bit. I told him that personally easy update isn't my thing but I still love all of the contributions he provides to the allies and not sure why people can't dissociate that. He really seemed to appreciate the talk.

Because people have conflated moral stances with political stances. Listening and believing women and men who are victims of assault is not a political stance, but that's the climate we are in now. Remember when NPR tweeted the Declaration of Independence on July 4th and got a bunch of flack for being unamerican? Yea...we can't even say the words of the DoI or bible without being accused of pandering to politicial extremes. It touches a nerve when the mirror they have been holding up against other people for so long is turned around on themselves.
 

Umibozu

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's not a hit piece if they are in fact inferior
I agree that they aren't hitpieces.
It just seems odd to make obvious statements like it runs better on pc. Had no issues with any of the port reports, aside from a little nitpick where I took damiani's statement that Skyrim switch was based off vanilla when it's based off the ps4/xb1 remaster.
 

Umibozu

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With the topic of toxic viewers, the reason why I wanted Kyle to vocalise the allies positions is because if he doesn't the other allies will, and some of the others already have big target on their backs.

Sdit:sorry for the double post
 

Lexad

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With the topic of toxic viewers, the reason why I wanted Kyle to vocalise the allies positions is because if he doesn't the other allies will, and some of the others already have big target on their backs.

Sdit:sorry for the double post
Who else has a target on their back besides Ian
 

LycanXIII

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Welcome! In addition to what other people have mentioned, you may want to check out:
  • The Retrospectives - I've found that even if I'm not a fan of the series the retro is on, the Allies do a great job of giving an overview of the series and why it's an important part of gaming history.
  • Game Sleuth - Damiani really digs deep into some gaming myths/lore in these. There are a few slow episodes, but also some great standouts like the recent one on FF7.
  • Tabletop Escapades/Fiasconauts - Getting into TTE is absolutely daunting at this point, but if you do, the Allies do a lot of fun improv and adventuring in this Dungeons and Dragons campaign. Fiasconauts is also a great place to jump in since they're standalone episodes (improv only with no D&D campaign) with a different setting/subject each time. Camp Death and Regina's Wedding are some of my favorites.
  • Cup of Jones - If you're a $1 and up patron, you can watch Cup of Jones, where Jones does a lot of Q&A on patron concerns and gives some cool behind-the-scenes looks on how Easy Allies operates. This is actually one of my favorite things to watch.
For Twitch Prime subs, one thing is that you need to manually resub every month for them to get the benefit, so that's something to keep in mind.
Current campaign should be wrapping up soon, so hopefully new viewers can jump in for the start of the next one.
 

Umibozu

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Who else has a target on their back besides Ian
Huber in the past, when he started Huber hype individuals in YouTube comments would spam how they didn't like him/get rid of his show. It got to a point when the allies acknowledged the issue on a stream back at GT.
With damiani, people would say how he shouldn't be seen/stay behind the camera. This was when he first moved back to join the allies, and said that the allies would be inclusionary in a QandA. Basically speaking out on GG without mentioning them. Certain communities didn't take kindly to that.
Obviously Ian has the biggest target though.
 
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Lexad

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Huber in the past, when he started Huber hype individuals in YouTube comments would spam how they didn't like him/get rid of his show. It got to a point when the allies acknowledged the issue on a stream back at GT.
With damiani, people would say how he shouldn't be seen/stay behind the camera. This was when he first moved back to join the allies, and said that the allies would be inclusionary in a QandA. Basically speaking out on GG without mentioning them. Certain communities didn't take kindly to that.
Obviously I an has the biggest target though.
Ah I know Huber and Damiani have had issues but I was meaning specifically on this issue. Didn't realize damiani had gotten flack before for similar comments
 

Umibozu

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Yeah, damiani was the first to speak out about GG related issues on stream/non-privately.
He also articulated why, not just "these guys are bad" kind of statement.
 

Tetsujin

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Huber in the past, when he started Huber hype individuals in YouTube comments would spam how they didn't like him/get rid of his show.

I can't fathom how anyone could hate Huber. The man has such an infectious passion for games and things that are HYPE. Huber inspires me to be less cynical about stuff.
 

Umibozu

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I can't fathom how anyone could hate Huber. The man has such an infectious passion for games and things that are HYPE. Huber inspires me to be less cynical about stuff.
It was around the time when the community was trying to promote GT after the defy buyout. Some newly exposed viewers were claiming fake enthusiasm on huber's part. Others brought up other video game coverage groups, and some people from the communities started warring from there.

Some people just didn't want to let Huber be Huber.
Hopefully that's behind the allies now.
 

Philippo

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I will say, I'm a bit disappointed that the narrative of VC4 is set to take place at the same time as VC1. I get "different angles on the war", etc., but there is always something missing for me when I know, broadly, how a story will end (as much as the details may or may not matter to the story they wish to tell now). Still getting it Day 1, and beggars can't be choosers and all that, but I do wish it were a different war, period, etc.

I didn't know this.
Wasn't 1 set during WWI? And this is II?
 

Burt

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I thought Huber was just doing his own bit and immediately went to make this
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Will be handy for when Capcom announces RE8 is going back to RE6 style.

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issa

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Finally started Nier Automata.

With the topic of toxic viewers, the reason why I wanted Kyle to vocalise the allies positions is because if he doesn't the other allies will, and some of the others already have big target on their backs.
Yep, it's good to remind them that they aren't welcome.

I can't fathom how anyone could hate Huber. The man has such an infectious passion for games and things that are HYPE. Huber inspires me to be less cynical about stuff.
He has a unique personality/character that isn't relatable to a lot of people. In my case this lead me to be fascinated by him instead.
 

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I love Huber's enthusiasm and passion. I'm not sure how someone could view it as fake. It has always appeared so genuine to me, especially since he seems to take an optimistic approach to life in general and not just video games. No matter how in love with a franchise or game he is, though, that never clouds his ability to be critical and acknowledge a game's faults.
 
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I knew Ian would get hate when he said the "we're 4 white dudes" thing.

Anyways love you Ian, screw the haters, in case you ever read this.

I love Huber's enthusiasm and passion. I'm not sure how someone could view it as fake. It has always appeared so genuine to me, especially since he seems to take an optimistic approach to life in general and not just video games. No matter how in love with a franchise or game he is, though, that never clouds his ability to be critical and acknowledge a game's faults.

People initially view it as fake because A LOT of people make money nowadays from being fake/hyperbolic in the internet, so people stay skeptical. But from following GT/EZA for many years, there is no way Huber isn't a genuine person.
 

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People initially view it as fake because A LOT of people make money nowadays from being fake/hyperbolic in the internet, so people stay skeptical. But from following GT/EZA for many years, there is no way Huber isn't a genuine person.

Yeah, I guess if they came across a video for the first time it may come across that way. I guess the most well known reaction is the Shenmue 3 video, but it's hard for me to imagine that being fake, even if I came across it without context of his personality. But yeah once you come to understand his personality, it's obvious it's all genuine.
 

Lexad

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My first true interaction with gametrailers besides their reviews on g4 with Brandon's smooth voice was the year of dreams reaction video. Seeing Huber, Brad, and bowman lose their shit while elyse watches was so genuine and and amazing. I started researching gt and found gt time. And then 7months later they got sacked. And then the new era started
 
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People initially view it as fake because A LOT of people make money nowadays from being fake/hyperbolic in the internet, so people stay skeptical. But from following GT/EZA for many years, there is no way Huber isn't a genuine person.
Honestly when I first started I never had an issue believing Huber's passion, on the other hand it took me a while to come around on Kyle as I really thought he was a personality till I watched a decent amount of his stuff.
 

spman2099

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I could see coming into a Huber video fresh and thinking that it was a hyper cynical, over-enthusiastic host trying to sell himself through fake hype. However, if you watch the other content, it is easy to see that he is just genuinely a super positive/enthusiastic person. Authenticity is really important with that kind of persona. I honestly don't think there is a more authentic person than Huber. Once people realize who he is it is super easy to get on board.
 

Dmax3901

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Huber used to (still does?) get flak for faking his reactions for views, which is absolutely ludicrous.

I'll never understand the YT comments. The Allies clearly love Ian and align with him in pretty much every one of these 'issues', how do those same people reconcile supporting the Allies when they have such rabid hatred for Ian?
 

Brot

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I've been watching it a lot lately to. I was never on GT so it's all new to me. I like the cruedness and light harded meanness that the show has. I would love to some some reimagining of it in the future. Maybe a monthly segment since I know that doing a weekly comedy show would be tough.

I love the show for the same reasons and the weird little bits in between, like Ben-kun, Elyse as Michael Caine or Kyle as the character designer for Sonic Boom.

But the weekly format is pretty much why the show isn't ever coming back, even with a studio. If you check the first couple of episodes you'll see that they had 6-8 writers alone for that show. Pretty crazy stuff. At the same time, not doing it weekly kinda defeats the purpose, imo.

Even then, I'm not sure if the tone of the show fits with their Love & Respect motto on EZA.
 

Karu

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Kinda Funny Games obliterated the campaign basically also, mirroring lots of or all of Huber's points. Certainly didnt make me care of the game...
 
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Kinda Funny Games obliterated the campaign basically also, mirroring lots of or all of Huber's points. Certainly didnt make me care of the game...
Oh im not saying its great its a very low tier COD at best, but the part Huber mentioned about just shooting fighters over and over with monotone acknowledgement is just such a weird "off" complaint.

You are flying a fighter and covering bombers as they make 2 bombing runs on a target(1st is to take out shields and 2nd to destroy the target)
It isn't a long segment or anything and it just seemed so weird to make an issue about.

I watched Frametrap immediately before I played the campaign though so maybe it just stuck with me as I did that part.
 

HylianScribe

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I didn't know this.
Wasn't 1 set during WWI? And this is II?

Valkyria 1, 3, and now 4 are all set during 1935 EC during the Second Europan War between the Federation (West) and the Empire (East), with Gallia (neutral country in between the two opposing forces) eventually getting caught up when they are invaded by the Empire. VC 1/3 are from the perspective of the Gallians, and VC4 is said to be from the perspective of the Federation.

Valkyria Chronicles 2 is a direct sequel to 1 and is set in 1937 EC and is largely set against a civil war within Gallia and after the conclusion of the Second Europan War. It is basically the Tokyo Drift of the series now, where we now have 2 sequels that will not take place after it, and it largely focuses on a new cast (though Squad 7 and other VC1 characters are present, if not in the leading roles).

Selvaria's DLC content in VC1 sheds some light on events prior to the invasion of Gallia from the Empire's point of view, which actually feels like a cut from the same cloth as FE: Radiant Dawn. By that I mean both had previous content (VC 1 main story, FE: Path of Radiance) which showed one viewpoint of a major war (Gallia, Crimea) and then this follow-up showed the viewpoint from the opposing side (Empire, Daein). Basically, despite being shown you are heroes and good guys, your actions (or rather your side's actions) bring about death and destruction to innocent people who now view you as evil. Basically, there are no winners in war, only death.

So with VC 1, 3, Selvaria DLC, and 4, we should have a complete picture of the Second Europa War after seeing every side's story/actions.
 
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Ricky64

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Oh man, I'll try to be more active here this time. I love it when I get home and find a new video by EZA, although I had to cut my pledge to the minimum because I put my wallet on fire during last month's trip to Japan. I blame Ben for never giving me a third episode of his travel diary, but I hope I'll be able to go back up for Christmas.
 
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