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Lackless

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
4,137
Looks like a bunch of stuff that would end up in my closet after a few days only to be thrown out years later when I move.
 

ManaByte

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
11,087
Southern California
Looks like a bunch of stuff that would end up in my closet after a few days only to be thrown out years later when I move.

Exactly this. Can't tell you how much crap I've tossed out over the years from this sort of stuff.

None of it is special. People think it makes them special, when in reality is crap the marketing department has produced and if you work for the company putting it out in any role above a QA tester you probably can have one of them.
 

jay

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,275
I assume GG is really mad about this because objective journalism is their purported purpose.
 

MikeKlump

Member
Oct 30, 2017
401
California
Can't wait for this next week. Probably have about ~10 hours or so left of the Witcher 3 I need to get through then I'm ready. Will be competing with 2k for my time however.
 

hEist

Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,054
"influencer"

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McScroggz

The Fallen
Jan 11, 2018
5,973
I feel like the only time stuff like this might affect the review in any way is if a smaller review site got one. Bigger sites are just used to this, just like critics for movies and music. I think it's an issue that has been overblown by some gamers who want to believe in conspiracies or whatnot. Not saying it's necer affected a review, but personally I don't see these press kits and think "well I can't trust that review to be fair."
 

Decarb

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,642
You would be surprised how "cheap" people can be.

Trust me, that is kinda my work.

I mean, I used to write previews and reviews for a website a few years back as a side hobby and got bunch of free stuff. But that's all it was, free stuff. The value of those items right now is exactly zero. Actually worse than zero because most of that trash is non-recyclable.
 

MrKlaw

Member
Oct 25, 2017
33,056
Why don't they sell these as collectors editions? They go to a lot of trouble making them
 

Wiped

Banned
Nov 2, 2017
2,096
Can we change lives just for a day? Maybe an hour? I'll write the review for you if necessary lol

Being a games reviewer is one of the most poorly paid jobs, where you quickly become tired of your favourite hobby, and the internet will hate whatever you write. You're not missing much

Source: I used to be a games reviewer
 

SilverX

Member
Jan 21, 2018
13,015
By this logic then anyone who has been a Spidey fan their whole life is likely to review the game much higher.

Its just a marketing kit that Sony knows will be shared via social media. Unless the backpack had money, there is no way this will have an effect on a reviewer´s score
 

Patitoloco

Member
Oct 27, 2017
23,663
Being a games reviewer is one of the most poorly paid jobs, where you quickly become tired of your favourite hobby, and the internet will hate whatever you write. You're not missing much

Source: I used to be a games reviewer
Cool, but completely unrelated to the joke of letting me play his copy for one hour.
 

LucidMomentum

Member
Nov 18, 2017
3,645
Its just a marketing kit that Sony knows will be shared via social media. Unless the backpack had money, there is no way this will have an effect on a reviewer´s score

What if, now hear me out.

What if this kit had some sort of M O N E T A R Y value to it?

The backpack may not have money in it, but it sure took money to make and ship.
 

Deleted member 26104

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 30, 2017
2,362
Looks pretty bad to me? It's a backpack that looks like it's for a 7 year old and then lots of pieces of paper. Nothing remotely awesome in there imo. Wouldn't even pay $10 for a special edition with that.

Like some others, I dislike this practice as it's effectively trying to buy good reviews. And yes, I'm aware most publishers do it. The problem is that if you don't give it a favorable review your chances of getting another press kit is low, so some would be inclined to give good reviews so they keep getting free stuff.
 

Deleted member 26104

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Oct 30, 2017
2,362
So it's a bribe then?

I just read that these are for "influencers". Even worse than press kits.
Basically, and if it didn't work they wouldn't spend money doing it.

Like you just said, now that it's been confirmed as an influencer kit (geez I hate that term) I think it's even worse, as "influencers" are literally just paid shills. Companies pay them to promote their products while pretending that they're not just paid ads.
 

Paz

Member
Nov 1, 2017
2,151
Brisbane, Australia
There are basically three facts when it comes to the shitty process of making expensive lavish press or influencer kits:

Yes, it is literally a bribe intended to increase the chances of the press or influencer viewing the game favorably or being more likely to share information about the game.

Yes, most people who get them really don't care at all and many probably find them annoying to deal with.

Yes, the marketing and pr departments still continue to use them because on some level for some people they must work, see the tweet in the op which is already making more people aware of the game (see also past articles on ign etc showcasing the more ridiculous press kits)
 

Chaserjoey

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,623
Is this a proper press kit? The press have been playing the game for days now (I've seen some of them on my friends list playing away) and it seems this was more something given to people who attended their party, Hollie B from PlayStation Access included. Would this really affect a review considering the reviews have been worked on for a while now and will launch in just a few days?
 

jschreier

Press Sneak Fuck
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
1,094
Being a games reviewer is one of the most poorly paid jobs, where you quickly become tired of your favourite hobby, and the internet will hate whatever you write. You're not missing much

Source: I used to be a games reviewer
Not if you're unionized.

Also, reviewers got digital codes, not this.
 

jschreier

Press Sneak Fuck
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
1,094
Jason how do you feel about Publishers giving out huge presents to reviewers at events? I remember Ubisoft gave out golden AKs to Influencers... for Ghost Recon Wildland
8-10 years ago, publishers would put up big money flying games press around the world. Capcom was most infamous for this, holding their annual Captivate event in cities like Hawaii and Rome. Nowadays, those publishers have pivoted to YouTubers. It's all sickening and I'm proud to be able to say I've never taken travel (or lavish swag) from a game publisher in my life.
 

Omnistalgic

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Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,973
NJ
Give me the comic and you have it back when I'm done reading...

Meh on this stuff honestly, just want the gamez
 

VaanXSnake

Banned
Jul 18, 2018
2,099
Sorry, but this should be a kit for fans, not influencers lol.

Come on, stop making sense!

8-10 years ago, publishers would put up big money flying games press around the world. Capcom was most infamous for this, holding their annual Captivate event in cities like Hawaii and Rome. Nowadays, those publishers have pivoted to YouTubers. It's all sickening and I'm proud to be able to say I've never taken travel (or lavish swag) from a game publisher in my life.

That's pretty disgusting but it's not only a thing in video games but all medias.
 

tommy7154

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
5,370
I'd happily take it all and sell it on Ebay.

7.4/10 did not get as much as I was hoping for this crap, hopefully next time more thought is put into my attempted bribe.
 

Nerun

Member
Oct 30, 2017
2,273
Well, Influencers got invited to New York, Helicopter tour and more stuff included (besides flight and hotel most likely) and you "complain" about some backpack and post cards for them? ;) Influencer = Marketing. You will see a lot of videos about that stuff popping up on YouTube soon.

Anyway that's part of their Marketing budget for games, they get videos and stuff in return, you know the drill guys.

Press kits are sometimes nice, yes. But not all outlets/reviewers still get those. Often times you just get a code and PDF and that's it and that's totally fine and yes there are still events happening all the time. Some outlets skip those, some pay the travel and hotel costs themselves, etc. That all depends on the outlet/reviewer and now you really won't be "influenced" if you receive a booklet with a couple of pages or some post cards and stuff like that... some give those away to readers from time to time like once or twice a year, etc.
 

Onebadlion

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,189
If you're going to change your view of a game based on a $15 backpack filled with some postcards maybe you shouldn't be reviewing games in the first place.

Gamers love this kind of tat. People pay silly money for "collectors editions" containing a cheap plastic figure and some stickers. We're talking "influencers" here, not professionals. If this stuff had no bearing, publishers wouldn't bother with these kits.

Personally, I'd be more inclined to dock points if you send me a load of cheap promo shite with the game.
 

ManaByte

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
11,087
Southern California
Gamers love this kind of tat. People pay silly money for "collectors editions" containing a cheap plastic figure and some stickers. We're talking "influencers" here, not professionals. If this stuff had no bearing, publishers wouldn't bother with these kits.

Personally, I'd be more inclined to dock points if you send me a load of cheap promo shite with the game.

The only thing that matters is the game disc and a disc with assets (images, etc.). The rest is garbage.