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Gestault

Member
Oct 26, 2017
13,362
This is an infuriating read. When vile people have the resources and influence to delude (and insulate) themselves like this about bad behavior foist on others, it's hard not to come away with anything but contempt. I hope this can change, and I hope there are personal consequences over time.
 

Servbot24

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
43,113
Stuff like this is so bizarre and gross to read. Makes me glad I work in a company with people who are professional.
 

danmaku

Member
Nov 5, 2017
3,232
What's the story behind the "just the tip" t-shirt? I don't want to google that at work...
 
Oct 29, 2017
174
Ugh.

This is very counter to inclusiveness and diversity no matter your stance on whether this "humour" is funny or not. Good on him for sharing.
 

mrmoose

Member
Nov 13, 2017
21,185
Thanks!

Wow, what a pinnacle of humor you picked to represent your company...

In my head I can see that being the last interview question. Take a look at this picture, what do you think?

Inappropriate: not a culture fit
Hilarious: Will fit right in
Don't like it but I won't say anything: Ok, we'll take you but you're on thin ice.
 

Antialias

Frostbite Physics
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
27
Up until that point, neither of those people had said much at all. The head of Communications said that we were edgy, and that if we as Riot started chipping away those edges, we would become shapeless and bland, like EA or Blizzard. I responded that if we told everyone starting today there could be no more rape jokes in presentations and talks, it would still be a multi-year effort for us to no longer be edgy.

Never have I been so glad to be in a 'shapeless and bland' organization
 

PRADA

Alt-Account
Banned
Aug 19, 2018
63
The sexism/misogyny/homophobia in Riot Games is rooted deep within the company, regardless of the job position. More specifically it's about language that uses rape jokes and metaphors to decribe work related processes. And even more specifically he writes particularly one incident in which he spoke to higher ups about it being a problem, that was hushed. Him speaking about it was more of a problem to the company than the issue itself. And that's why he left the company.

Read the whole thing though, it's worth it.
Thank you!
 

Deleted member 26104

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 30, 2017
2,362
I've heard the "no doesn't necessarily mean no" phrase in several different aspects of recruiting in many different industries. I'm neither agreeing with its usage nor condoning this case, just pointing out that it's common in those avenues.
Yeh it's not people condoning rape or anything like that, if that's what's being implied. I do a lot of hiring for my work, and someone that we want will often say no, only to come around and say yes if we offer more money or some work from home or more extras and things like that.

They said no, but they really meant no to what was being offered at the time and were open to other offers. No didn't mean no, it meant "try again".
 

mrmoose

Member
Nov 13, 2017
21,185
Yeh it's not people condoning rape or anything like that, if that's what's being implied. I do a lot of hiring for my work, and someone that we want will often say no, only to come around and say yes if we offer more money or some work from home or more extras and things like that.

They said no, but they really meant no to what was being offered at the time and were open to other offers. No didn't mean no, it meant "try again".

I didn't see anywhere where the person who said it said that they didn't realize the phrase could be taken as condoning rape, and apologized for it. Instead, they basically "tested" the sense of humor of the employee who reported it, and doubled down.