I love TLJ and I love RLM. I look forward to hearing Plinkett's caustic take on the movie, even though I still really like it overall.
What do I win?
What do I win?
yup, we are all racists and sexists when it comes to TLJ while we loved Finn + Rey in the TFA.Is era still in the "lets accuse everyone who didn't like the film of being toxic without a shred of self awareness as we accuse everyone who didn't like it of just being upset that it didn't match some non-existant fanfic" phase of TLJ discussion? That's what most of these threads descend into - page after page of people shouting down anyone who didn't like it and pretending that it was only divisive on the internet and that everyone else loved it to a fault and deliberately attempting to kill any and all discussion of the film.
This is where I'm atRLM has leaned way too hard into their "Movies suck now" audience recently for me to think this will be enjoyable.
I think you have that wrong because what I see in most TLJ threads is the haters shitting on every party of the movie and hurting any discussion on it.Is era still in the "lets accuse everyone who didn't like the film of being toxic without a shred of self awareness as we accuse everyone who didn't like it of just being upset that it didn't match some non-existant fanfic" phase of TLJ discussion? That's what most of these threads descend into - page after page of people shouting down anyone who didn't like it and pretending that it was only divisive on the internet and that everyone else loved it to a fault and deliberately attempting to kill any and all discussion of the film.
There is plenty to dislike about TLJ without being sexist/racist. No one is saying all criticism of the film is sexist/racist. It is just RLM has a history of pandering to the racist/sexist viewpoints.yup, we are all racists and sexists when it comes to TLJ while we loved Finn + Rey in the TFA.
logic lol
Yeah I think your right.
They will never be open minded to the franchise anyway, lucky for them this will do massive numbers and for sure allow those whom wish it be "destroyed" be further validated as if it's the only real opinion to have.
Oh well.
Nah, not liking TLJ is fine. RLM panders to the alt-right and complains about diversity in movies. That should be something any reasonable person no matter what they think of TLJ should be against.
I love TLJ and I love RLM. I look forward to hearing Plinkett's caustic take on the movie, even though I still really like it overall.
What do I win?
Yeah can not wait for them to destroy it! Fuck popular films! Fuck creatives! Be cynical and hate! Its all either amazing or worth burning to the ground!! No middle ground
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I guess it varies from thread to thread and which side sees it first. I feel like I see more of the "shouting at people who didn't like the film" than "shouting at people who did like the film" around these parts though.I think you have that wrong because what I see in most TLJ threads is the haters shitting on every party of the movie and hurting any discussion on it.
I have seen plenty of their reviews where they pander to sexist/racist idelogy. If it doesnt come up in this one how does that erase their history of alt-right pandering?That's some bold claims from someone who wont watch the review. So you are here just to shit up the thread? Funny you complain about that in other threads
I started to feel this with a lot of RLM, i'm going to give this a proper watch later on tonight.Yeah I watched about 20 minutes of this and it feels like Plinkett is unironically embodying the type of criticism that he himself used to parody (like as recently as the TFA review)
Feel free to debate whether he's actually regressive or not, but he's totally pandering to a certain audience in this one
I like Korey and Martin a lot, but man, it's just not the same lately.
I like Korey and Martin a lot, but man, it's just not the same lately.
Rose biting the bad guys hand, yikes.
Even though I really like the new movies (minus Solo which was "fine" I guess) I feel like SW kinda should've stayed comatose. There was never a way to continue the franchise that wouldn't eventually lead to where we are now with the toxicity.I'm starting to believe that Star Wars should have ended with Return of the Jedi, because it was the perfect ending.
I agree it doesn't. But there are people in this thread and Reddit that are of this position and it's basically the only reason they like RLM.
Judging by the hostility in the first few pages yes.Is era still in the "lets accuse everyone who didn't like the film of being toxic without a shred of self awareness as we accuse everyone who didn't like it of just being upset that it didn't match some non-existant fanfic" phase of TLJ discussion? That's what most of these threads descend into - page after page of people shouting down anyone who didn't like it and pretending that it was only divisive on the internet and that everyone else loved it to a fault and deliberately attempting to kill any and all discussion of the film.
Instead of the FUD that RLM detractors are trying to peddle in this thread, I do agree with the above.RLM has leaned way too hard into their "Movies suck now" audience recently for me to think this will be enjoyable.
Not to get off topic, but Danielle, Girts, and Goodwin left.
I think Luke having an epilogue really worked in this run. I know some found it questionable in execution, but I was very fond of it.The Skywalker saga absolutely should've ended with RotJ and these new movies should've just focused on Rey and the original characters.
The Skywalker saga absolutely should've ended with RotJ and these new movies should've just focused on Rey and the original characters.I'm starting to believe that Star Wars should have ended with Return of the Jedi, because it was the perfect ending.
2 of the main hosts left recently, as did Danilelle.Those deleted scenes... good lord.
What happened with DoubleToasted?
Even though I really like the new movies (minus Solo which was "fine" I guess) I feel like SW kinda should've stayed comatose. There was never a way to continue the franchise that wouldn't eventually lead to where we are now with the toxicity.
Shit when did that happen?
It's been awhile since I've seen that but: They weren't really complaining about inclusion, they were complaining about corporate monoliths like Disney touting inclusions but relegating all of the diversity to secondary and minor roles while also forming the narrative to show how great and progressive they are as a studio, but still giving all of the important jobs to white leads and directors. They bring that point up several times in other Star Wars videos as well.
That said I didn't think that the TFA video was all that great comapred to past works for bunch of reasons.
I knew Grits left but what the hell?
Instead of the FUD that RLM detractors are trying to peddle in this thread, I do agree with the above.
I think they know their audience is one primarily of cynics. Even for movies they love, their voices stay at a constant monotone drone.
I have seen plenty of their reviews where they pander to sexist/racist idelogy. If it doesnt come up in this one how does that erase their history of alt-right pandering?
That's probably the caseI guess it varies from thread to thread and which side sees it first. I feel like I see more of the "shouting at people who didn't like the film" than "shouting at people who did like the film" around these parts though.
I'll be over here happily sitting on the fance. It was ok.
Girts and Goodwin are still around now and then but Danielle moved to Asia. They're dying for new blood for sure, they NEED a third and fourth guy.
Yeah it sucks, but thankfully there's no bad blood with Girts and Goodwin, they still pop in from time to time.
hi I'm Cheebo and I don't like Thing so I will accuse Thing and Fans of Thing of being bad peopleI have seen plenty of their reviews where they pander to sexist/racist idelogy. If it doesnt come up in this one how does that erase their history of alt-right pandering?
There was that video where they claimed that Sony manufactured the outrage around Ghostbusters to sell the movie.You keep saying this but haven't come up with a single example except for their TFA review which multiple people in this thread have explained what they were actually discussing which naturally you've completely ignored because it would invalidate your crusade in this topic
I have seen plenty of their reviews where they pander to sexist/racist idelogy. If it doesnt come up in this one how does that erase their history of alt-right pandering?
I can see using Luke as a bridge between the two trilogies, and I do think of the three actors Hamill is best at slipping back into character, but I will argue to my last breath that focusing so much on Han in the first movie was a terrible idea.I think Luke having an epilogue really worked in this run. I know some found it questionable in execution, but I was very fond of it.
I like Korey and Martin a lot, but man, it's just not the same lately.
I think this is not at all correct. Their review of annihilation was straight up praise for the fact that it dared to have an all female cast.Nah, not liking TLJ is fine. RLM panders to the alt-right and complains about diversity in movies.