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From Software explains why Activision is publishing Sekiro, also notes game was originally Tenchu

Nirolak

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Activision also shared why they're publishing it, and noted that they're interested in doing more things like this if Sekiro goes well.

Activision's reasoning:

"When From Software knocks on your door and says 'hey, we wanna make a game,' you have only one answer right?"
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From Software's reasoning:

"So initially when we had this project proposal we took it to a number of companies," explains From Software community manager Yasuhiro Kitao. "We don't have the clout to publish outside of Asia and Japan, and so Activision was one of the companies we approached and one of the companies who said they would like to talk.
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"And they absolutely loved the idea; they loved the project right from the start. They really respected our vision, and also along the way they were able to provide user testing and feedback that we simple can't handle so it was really beneficial."
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Tenchu:

The project in question, Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice, almost began life as an instalment into the Tenchu franchise, a property to which From Software does own the rights, but quickly outgrew the concept.

"When we originally set out to create something different from Dark Souls and our previous titles, we thought it would be interesting to make a Japanese themed game," Kitao adds. "So from that we started going in the direction of the shinobi and ninja, and of course Tenchu was an IP with that history; that was the original impetus for this project.

"But as we developed and as we partnered with Activision, and started building it together, it started becoming its own thing and the game we wanted to make was no longer just Tenchu, so it really evolved into its own thing."
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Source: https://www.gamesindustry.biz/artic...na-make-a-game-you-have-only-one-answer-right
 
Foffy

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higemaru said:
Activision published most of the Tenchu games on playstation right?
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Tenchu at one point was owned by Activision.

I think the IP rights went from Sony Music to Activision then to Fromsoft.

Fun fact: Tenchu is one of the very few IPs to have games released by the current three major console facturers as a first-party published game (Tenchu 1 on PS1, Tenchu Z on 360, and Tenchu: Dark Secret on DS).
 
TheDutchSlayer

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I don't get why Acti response is "When from comes you say yes".

When other devs come who made games that sols a few mil come to them I bet they say no 99% of the time.
Since COD4 Acti has been in the it sells 15-20 mil copies games or we do not publish it.

Is that just PR speak or are they really in the market for 3-5 mil seller games again?
 

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Hmmm, that's kinda sad but somewhat expected. The game is a tremendous departure from what I'd expect from Tenchu but hopefully we may see a return of Tenchu in the future. I miss Rikimaru but I'm at peace with the idea that the series has been put into stasis, so to speak.
 
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TheDutchSlayer said:
I don't get why Acti response is "When from comes you say yes".

When other devs come who made games that sols a few mil come to them I bet they say no 99% of the time.
Since COD4 Acti has been in the it sells 15-20 mil copies games or we do not publish it.

Is that just PR speak or are they really in the market for 3-5 mil seller games again?
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Ya it sells far less than their other titles but having the creators of one of the more influential games of last gen is good publicity too. I'm sure From is a pretty attractive developer to work with right now. Hopefully their success continues with this game.
 
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"and also along the way they were able to provide user testing and feedback that we simple can't handle so it was really beneficial."
Don't get the last part
 

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Is this the reboot then that people long thought was the Armoured Core reboot when From talked about the three games they had in development?

That would leave the action / souls like action game (maybe the game where lots of details leaked last year which was an Aztec era melee focused game?) and the strange game no one would expected from them would be 'Déraciné'.
 
Marcus Brutalius

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Welp, as much as I love what we've seen from Sekiro so far, I would've prefered it to be more Tenchu. Just a Tenchu with better AI and brutal fights, so that being spotted makes it really hard for the player.
 
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TheDutchSlayer said:
I don't get why Acti response is "When from comes you say yes".

When other devs come who made games that sols a few mil come to them I bet they say no 99% of the time.
Since COD4 Acti has been in the it sells 15-20 mil copies games or we do not publish it.

Is that just PR speak or are they really in the market for 3-5 mil seller games again?
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Cause Souls is hot shit and From is hot shit. Right now, that is. That's all Activision cares about. They're probably leaving out the bit where From came to them a decade ago and got turned down. I don't know if that actually happened but I can see Activision saying "will this game be milkable for the next five years? no, no thanks."

Anyway, I think Activision needs to find another outlet since the well is kinda dry moving forward outside of Blizzard and the yearly CoD releases. Getting From to come back and make a game is a good move for them to keep their stock high, which is really all they care about. Fucking Kotick.
 
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I hope this doesn't mean Tenchu will remain eternally dead. :(
 
Oreiller

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Also, it isn't the first time Activision has published a Fromsoft game. Lost Kingdom was published by Activision as well.
 
Bastos

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Still want a new Tenchu.

But not like Tenchu Z.

I want Rikimaru and Ayame again.
 
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This would have been so much more appealing if it was called Tenchu and the main character a Ninja.
 
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TheDutchSlayer said:
I don't get why Acti response is "When from comes you say yes".

When other devs come who made games that sols a few mil come to them I bet they say no 99% of the time.
Since COD4 Acti has been in the it sells 15-20 mil copies games or we do not publish it.

Is that just PR speak or are they really in the market for 3-5 mil seller games again?
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This game's budget is probably not that high.
 

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A single-player game with no microtransactions seems so far outside of Activision's wheelhouse, but I'm down for it. It just seems bizarre because Activision seems to like each of their games to be huge, consisten long-term money makers a la Overwatch, CoD, Warcraft, etc.

Maybe they're experimenting with lower budget games with lower expectations?
 
Foffy

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Krakin said:
Soooo is this gonna make Tenchu fans mad?
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Don't see why. From's never made a Tenchu outside of a Bomberman-like puzzle game. Acquire and K2 were the main developers of the series.

Tenchu lived on in the Shinobido series by Acquire, but that died off on the Vita. Let From make their Not-Tenchu, I'm sure they're gonna have some sort of homage to it. Their Soulsborne games are constantly bathed in King's Field style stuff.
 
MilkBeard

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Interesting. Yeah, I can see Activision taking this simply because of the publicity they will get from publishing a beloved 'hardcore' developer like FromSoft.
 
Morbius

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First off I had no idea From Software owned the rights to Tenchu

Second, it really did remind me of Tenchu during the reveal, I may give this a look I'm not to sure really depends what's going on at that point in time.
 
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TheDutchSlayer said:
Like? since COD4 (I give you THPS5) but since COD4 valune brand has gone away and tell me what kind of shovelware Acti publishes now a days?
I mean console / PC games not mobile with king.
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Korra, transformer is good because of platinum but it was made on a shoestring budget which makes it technically shovelware to me, that walking dead game, those horrible marvel ultimate alliance ports ect. From games honestly aren't even close AAA but they sell millions at a 60$ price point, it's a no brainier to publish their games.
 
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