I haven't seen anything that indicate anything of the sort about the bolded (EDIT : for this creator i mean )Yes? Have you heard of "death of the author"? For a lot of people, the reaction of a person to a work is completely divorced from the intent of the creator. Plus, a lot of creators may have stereotypical and harmful views of certain groups and that filters into their works.
Only caught bits and pieces but I have to sit down and watch whole thing. Maybe I'm crazy but I'm much more into the vibe and atmosphere of something like the new Deus Ex games than this. The style seems a bit goofy to me. I'm gonna watch later and maybe I'll see where all these hyperbolic statements cone from...
Depends on how normalized those aspects of this society are. Augments don't seem rare or exclusive in a way that creates a derogatory class. Imagery surrounding the game makes it look near ubiquitous. It feels like paralleling a first world major city and insulting someone for having a cellphone. It doesn't actually flow with the setting and paints the speaker as an outsider for insulting a norm. That works for something like a self insert fish out of water scenario, but you're supposed to be a natural inhabitant of this world and those quirks are the only reality you know. Your normal and default.All i'm saying is "pussy" and "bitch" are low-hanging fruit and not even the best/most relevant terms to use in this society to degrade someone. Pussy stems from toxic masculinity and bitch from anti-feminist roots. Given this is a world embedded with circuitry and augments, there's a dozen other terms they could use - and HAVE used in the source material and adjacent universes. All i'm saying and will continue to say is that Pussy and Bitch is lazy and not reflective of anything more than laziness to pull from the rich backlog of vocabulary the entire genre already has.
That said, it is entirely representative of the sort of writing-mind the studio has, given they think "did you assume my gender" is still a joke to make in 2018. They probably hastily scrapped some recorded lines from the game set in 2077 after the backlash. From this snippet, the writing will be a mixed bag of good moments with lots of things that will be instantly aged or problematic. And them being problematic or out-of-date won't be because it is "authentic" but the opposite. Lazy and low-hanging words that have better and established replacements within the established canon of all cyberpunk works.
Game world looks a lot like Sunset Overdrive. Still bummed it's such a departure from the more darker blade runner look of the initial teaser.
Your assertion that gendered insults are core to cyberpunk is stupid on its face.
Ghost in the Shell ain't gonna have none of this shit. Serial Experiments Lain sure don't. Shit, I can play a cyberpunk-ass dingy and dirty game like Brigador where you're literally paid for killing innocent people and not run into language like that. It's almost as if it's completely orthogonal to the genre!
Lazy or wide-reaching? Everyone knows what "pussy" is supposed to say. And in a world with as much jargon as CP77 is already displaying, they can use a little forthrightness.Doesn't change the fact the writing can be better. Pussy is lazy and there's a dozen more apt insults to use that would be more fitting in the world/genre.
Only caught bits and pieces but I have to sit down and watch whole thing. Maybe I'm crazy but I'm much more into the vibe and atmosphere of something like the new Deus Ex games than this. The style seems a bit goofy to me. I'm gonna watch later and maybe I'll see where all these hyperbolic statements cone from...
Eh, it's an accurate stereotype tbh. I'm Dominican and we do that shit all the time, I work with all kinds of other latinos and they all speak variants of spanglish too. It doesn't have anything to do with the ability to be able to speak English without mixing Spanish, just some words sound better in Spanish lol.6 minutes in, game looks pretty but I'm not in awe yet.
Also, can we stop with the fucking stereotype of Latino characters having to mix some Spanish words in between their English speeches? I am Latino, but I can clearly speak complete sentences in English when I need to, it's jarring and overused, it would be really refreshing to see a Latino character speak full sentences in English without mixing it with Spanish here and there.
Alternatively, have him speak fully in Spanish and have auto-translated subtitles at the bottom for V. Hash-tag immersion.
Only caught bits and pieces but I have to sit down and watch whole thing. Maybe I'm crazy but I'm much more into the vibe and atmosphere of something like the new Deus Ex games than this. The style seems a bit goofy to me. I'm gonna watch later and maybe I'll see where all these hyperbolic statements cone from...
Don't buy the game and move on, or create a separate thread for this discussion. You've basically been thread shitting and derailing for the last 20 pagesWhat I'm actually throwing a fit over is the absolutely callous dismissiveness I constantly see all over forums like these by posters like you. Posters who are too goddamned self-centered and too egotistical to ever consider another human being's point of view.
That wasn't anywhere near as impressive as some people made it out to be.
Go ask a moderator to moderate for you, or stop backseat moderating.Don't buy the game and move on, or create a separate thread for this discussion. You've basically been thread shitting and derailing for the last 20 pages
What are some of you people playing that this isn't impressive. I want some of that.
The irony.Wow... people really are making a big fucking deal about language in the game. I haven't been bothered by it at all while watching the gameplay. It's like you people are looking for things to get mad about. Kind of pathetic.
It would be awesome if this game gets a VR mode. The setting is glorious.
The link I used in the OP is a 4K Youtube version is that what you're after?
Also man, I don't want to hand-wave people's concerns with the language here - specifically 'pussy' and 'cunt' - but come on. It's thematically and tonally appropriate, and wanting a Cyberpunk game that's seeped in slums, drugs, poverty and corruption, but barred from kirt language is just ridiculous. Cyberpunk, especially in this style, is fundamentally rife in the politically incorrect, and socially abrasive.
no, we use it in colombia.
Now this is an idea I can get behind. Have him speak English completely during regular activities, and if you happen to run into a Spanish speaking NPC, have him speak Spanish while your whatever translates to English subs in real time, would be pretty nice if it worked like this, actually.Alternatively, have him speak fully in Spanish and have auto-translated subtitles at the bottom for V. Hash-tag immersion.
It's overused and annoying at this point, it's like some creators can't find a way to write a compelling Latino character, so they decide to go for the stereotype Latino that will always keep throwing Spanish words in his speech, despite them not being around characters who also speak Spanish.Eh, it's an accurate stereotype tbh. I'm Dominican and we do that shit all the time, I work with all kinds of other latinos and they all speak variants of spanglish too. It doesn't have anything to do with the ability to be able to speak English without mixing Spanish, just some words sound better in Spanish lol.
Don't buy the game and move on, or create a separate thread for this discussion. You've basically been thread shitting and derailing for the last 20 pages
The nudity is gratuitous and the Hispanic dude is a stereotype.
I could see me preferring first person view since the rest of the game will be that way, but I feel like I'll probably crash into everything in that car.Despite the fact that third person view been my preferred option, it really removes the immersion.... It`s like a future gta
I'd love that.Alternatively, have him speak fully in Spanish and have auto-translated subtitles at the bottom for V. Hash-tag immersion.
I don't want to think about the rig necessary to render Twice the amount of frames in an open world game with this level of detail. It's ok to dream ... maybe in 10 years maybe ?It would be awesome if this game gets a VR mode. The setting is glorious.
It will look goofy as fuck. See games designed around first person camera.
We use it in Peru as well, but it has a different meaning than Mexico. Here you use it for someone who's trying to be sly, cunning, crafty, something like that. Say you're dealing with someone and notice they were trying to rip you off, you go "No seas pendejo!" (Don't be pendejo).
Huh didn't know that, my mother is Peruvian and I've never heard anyone in my family say itWe use it in Peru as well, but it has a different meaning than Mexico. Here you use it for someone who's trying to be sly, cunning, crafty, something like that. Say you're dealing with someone and notice they were trying to rip you off, you go "No seas pendejo!" (Don't be pendejo).