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Cyberpunk 2077 Language Discussion - How far is too far
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Don't be a dick about it.
See? Male body part. Also negative connotation.
This thread would be better if it hadn't been made in a rush and in bad faith. At least provide context and better poll options, OP.
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It's not out of bad faith. It's to focus on a major societal issue. Creating a separate thread allows for further discussion on a more focused aspect of the demo.
It does. It means both things. The word is meant to emasculate someone and allege they aren't tough and fearless, like a man should be, but rather timid and afraid , like a woman. Not sure what the poll has to do with the discussion of whether or not it should be included in the game. It can both be a slur with misogynist origins, and context appropriate depending on how CDPR execute their story telling.
It's their artistic freedom to do whatever the fuck they want
Should we censor movies and music next?
Should we censor movies and music next?
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The poll needs to go.
The language isn't an issue to me.
I am not physically being called a cunt, my character in my video game is. If I decide my character is offended by such language, then I have the choice to blow that persons head off with my flashy futuristic shotgun. Problem solved.
The language isn't an issue to me.
I am not physically being called a cunt, my character in my video game is. If I decide my character is offended by such language, then I have the choice to blow that persons head off with my flashy futuristic shotgun. Problem solved.
I think it's silly to apply these conventions to characters in a piece of fiction set in a harsh world.
I was playing Octopath traveler the other day and one of the very first villains you meet continually insults your dancer character by calling her a whore, in a pretty loud and mean tone at that. Would I ever say that word in that manner? Not at all. But do I expect a piece of shit like him to? Of course.
I was playing Octopath traveler the other day and one of the very first villains you meet continually insults your dancer character by calling her a whore, in a pretty loud and mean tone at that. Would I ever say that word in that manner? Not at all. But do I expect a piece of shit like him to? Of course.
As a civilised, mature Australian adult, I say cunt at least a dozen times a day in various different contexts. Sure, it has hundreds of different connotations in different settings, but so does every fucking word in the English language.
But no, let's censor a video game so that themes of sexism may never again be exhibited in popular media in case someone finds them offensive. Good grief.
But no, let's censor a video game so that themes of sexism may never again be exhibited in popular media in case someone finds them offensive. Good grief.
Yea thats a disingenuous poll. Kinda felt like I should vote for that pussy was used as a term for a women's body part.
But I dont really feel that its usage was unnecessary or uncalled for in this scenario.Given the subject matters that the game will cover, this level of language doesn't faze me.
But I dont really feel that its usage was unnecessary or uncalled for in this scenario.Given the subject matters that the game will cover, this level of language doesn't faze me.
It's always weird to me seeing people bothered by cursewords in adult videogames about murdering people.
The sensitivity to cursewords is really just a cultural thing (I'd imagine american) and i don't think there'll be any sort of agreement reached.
In many parts of the world, language like this is common place.
The sensitivity to cursewords is really just a cultural thing (I'd imagine american) and i don't think there'll be any sort of agreement reached.
In many parts of the world, language like this is common place.
the deadpool power fantasy can only go so far. you're saying that those two words don't come into play when discussing that demo, when they were........ literally said in the demo.
Exactly. The devs aren't necessarily endorsing the behavior of the characters, they are creating a realistic, dark future. And that doesnt mean that everyone in that world is going to be PC.
There's advantages and disadvantages to whether you set your fiction in a post struggle world or a world where all those prejudices still exist.
The former is a nice escape fantasy but also makes it harder to address these issues directly, the latter has the advantages of allowing you to shoot the guy who called you a cunt right in the face, but it obviously makes for less good escapism.
What I can't see is that one is inherently better than the other.
The former is a nice escape fantasy but also makes it harder to address these issues directly, the latter has the advantages of allowing you to shoot the guy who called you a cunt right in the face, but it obviously makes for less good escapism.
What I can't see is that one is inherently better than the other.
The poll makes it an either this or that thing. In reality it can also mean both.
In the other thread, people took issue with that word because they felt it was gendered slur. Then OP and a few others rebutted and said that it just means "scaredy cat". It can mean either or both depending on the context.
Well the poll reinforces what I stated in the other thread. Calling someone a Pussy in the UK and Europe means "You're a scaredy cat". Obviously there's a massive disparity in the European slang meaning and the American slang meaning.
It's interesting to hear everyone's side of the meaning though. It really is.
It's interesting to hear everyone's side of the meaning though. It really is.
Are people seriously up in arms over the language - of all things - featured in this game, a game set in "a dark version of the future," one very clearly depicted in previous marketing as being populated with all sorts of violent scum and having the overall quality of grim dystopia?
Good Lord.
Good Lord.
I would never understand the problem with swear word some people seems to have. So, I will have to go with "I don't have any problem with the language in this game".
Calling people pussies is a major societal issue? How do you feel about calling people dicks?
Dozens of people were murdered in this demo, but please dont use bad words.
This doesn't need to be its own thread. Feel free to continue the discussion here: https://www.resetera.com/threads/cyberpunk-2077-gameplay-demo.64691/
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