I think the argument is that pussy means vagina, and pussy means scared person, which means that men think all women are scared people. It's not so much a simultaneous meaning, but the insinuation that's implied.
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Cyberpunk 2077 Gameplay Demo
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Meant that it's not really helpful to argue in the UK cunt isn't always negative when it's not being used that way. And like I said, we are perfectly able to use that term as a gendered insult over here as well, even though bitch is the more preferred term.
So any dev is free to make whatever downgrades they want as long they put in that disclaimer? They're trying to have their cake and eat it.
Either show the game nearer launch or only show the features that are pretty much confirmed to be in.
Really? Scaredy Cat and Pussy are synonymous, cat=pussy, "scaredy cat" just got shortened to pussy because too many syllables. There's literally no gender implication involved at all. Just creature implication.
If someone shot at me, I'd likely call them a cunt too tbf.
It isn't intending to be sexist, you're taking it that way.
Ok I'm out. You clearly cannot see what I mean and I am certainly not trying to wait anyone so my argument here is done. Thank you.
Looks freaking amazing. What every Deus Ex sequel should have been in terms of scope. Thank you based CDP.
That said I hope that outside not-too-frequent main storyline stuff there aren't many scenes showing your character in the third person doing stuff and especially the day to day stuff shown and the personal life (and the sex). I find that stuff pretty cringe-y in The Witcher 3 too (and pretty much every other game that tries it) too. You can allude to it without spending a cut scene to show it, I mean, even movies often don't go down to that kind of detail when they have an actual plot or even just action to get to instead, if they're shown they must have a pretty big point rather than just that they exist and they're cool cos they motion captured having sex or whatever.
That said I hope that outside not-too-frequent main storyline stuff there aren't many scenes showing your character in the third person doing stuff and especially the day to day stuff shown and the personal life (and the sex). I find that stuff pretty cringe-y in The Witcher 3 too (and pretty much every other game that tries it) too. You can allude to it without spending a cut scene to show it, I mean, even movies often don't go down to that kind of detail when they have an actual plot or even just action to get to instead, if they're shown they must have a pretty big point rather than just that they exist and they're cool cos they motion captured having sex or whatever.
I hope some of the people in this thread never come to Scotland. I don't use it personally, but cunt is part of the day-to-day vocabulary here by men and women alike, and that isn't an exaggeration.
I only ever see it in gendered situations. It's almost always used to disparage a man's masculinity.
Start at the part with people don't have an issue with the fact that bad language is being used. Rather the specific terminology itself and what it implies. The game is firmly in ow-the-edge territory in that regard and frankly after 48 minutes, can't really see what the overall point of it is.
I'm not calling it a bullshot, at the same time, i'm not expecting the released product to look like this on the current consoles. That city is just...wow.
LOL come on, really? You can't be serious?
This is pretty much the exact same line of argument I've heard time and time again to defend the use of "gay" as a synonym for "bad", and about as terrible, really.
Honestly I have never heard the word pussy considered as a sexist slur. And I feel like face desking at Resetera (or some of its users) to make this an issue but hey; if you consider it sexist then so be it. To me it seems fucking ridiculous but I'm from the UK...maybe it's different in the States.
But this is a mature game and I don't think it was CDPRs intention to be sexist. If this becomes a big enough issue for the devs to address I will.honestly be gob- smacked and pretty disappointed.
I don't know, honestly all of these "concerns" seem an exaggeration and people just going out of their way to always pick on something being sexist when it's not.
I mean, even if they use a different word other than "pussy" or "cunt" like say "weak" or "coward" it would still be awful and sexist because the character being played is a woman and therefore she's being called the weaker sex right? Obviously this would not have the same impact if you would have chosen the male version.
Come one people...
So people are complaining about the use of the word cunt being used. Correct ? (i'm not trying to be an arsehole)
Considering pussy is a vagina, getting pussy is getting laid, and being pussy-whipped is being subservient to a woman you sleep with, I seriously doubt being a pussy means being a scaredy cat, whist that term does in fact exist. Cats are certainly very skittish creatures though.
This looks pretty good for being so early and I know it will change but I hope the heart of that video, the interactions, the immersions, the way you flow into dialogue and missions and the crowd density remains the same of gets better.
I wouldn't want the game to change a lot. I don't care f the guns fire this or that way as the gunplay itself looked meh. I don't care if the interface changes as it also looked like work in progress or the menus. I just want that experience to be real and not fake.
I wouldn't want the game to change a lot. I don't care f the guns fire this or that way as the gunplay itself looked meh. I don't care if the interface changes as it also looked like work in progress or the menus. I just want that experience to be real and not fake.
That's what I'm trying to say. It's a non gendered slang term in some parts of the world. Either way that's not my argument. However I agree with the Scottish saying it all the time. My best friend is Scottish and it's the second thing out of his mouth in every sentence. He's from Glasgow.
I suppose you take issue with the excessive use of "cunt"?
Never step foot in Australia. You won't know what hit you.
Oh no, I know. I'm on the same page. They've stressed multiple times that it's a work in progress. All I really care about is that they maintain a broad quest tree of varying choices, really. The replay potential seems pretty insane. That city is probably the most dense and well-populated city I've seen in a game.
Lash you would deserve it cos you are a bit of a cunt in all fairness
I'm from the UK too, I've had both pussy and cunt used against in a gendered way. Cunt especially is used so much in banter that it's hard to take it out of lexicon usage, but believe me when I saying it does get used against women here too. Though bitch is more common.
This is gonna be an amazing thread for copypasta and screencaps that other places will use against Era as usual.
No way dude. It's totally gendered.
A famous example in sports is Draymond Green calling LeBron James this in the 2016 NBA Finals, and LeBron replying to Draymond saying that he's a man and a father of three kids. LeBron took offence to being called that and another opposing player targeting his masculinity and it was highly publicized. Everyone knows what that word means.
Wow you dont know when to quit do you? You're not going to win this argument. Devs will continue to show games early and change shit. When downgrades or outright lies are caught, and they are caught, people will rightly complain (see: Mighty No 9, No Mans Sky).
You're making mountains over molehills.
I'm really not sure why people are bothered by it in this context either way - Whether it offends someone or not, it's something people say, especially people in places like the game is presenting.
Like, when I watch a movie and there's a gangster I don't expect them to not say things offensively either.
In the same way if you make a hard hitting oscar bait movie with some racist ass dude as a character, I fully expect that they'll say some other words that I find reprehensible.
They're still being a bit vague about it
I haven't played 2020 in years but IIRC your Cool stat was basically how cool and collected you kept yourself with every fight so if anything it'll be different than the tabletop game. Maybe the other stats will be as well.
Yes that's what some are upset about. They're saying it's a gender derivative term.
In reality as the devs are European based it's not. It's pretty common place around Europe
It's not a dev using vulgarity in a Tweet or something. It's a character in the game. A lot of games that allow the player to choose their gender have NPCs who make comments like this. That doesn't make the devs sexist. That means it's their intent to make the character sexist.
This is done all the time in film and games. Dunno why people are reacting this way. Not everybody is politically correct. Not every character in a piece of fiction is politically correct.
This is done all the time in film and games. Dunno why people are reacting this way. Not everybody is politically correct. Not every character in a piece of fiction is politically correct.
Yeah same here, was awful quality for me. Looking forward to a better feed.
I only ever hear it in situations that involve overcoming some level of fear, insinuating the "scaredy cat" insult, but a more slang version of it.
Really? I've literally never heard the word pussy used in a gendered way aside from a woman's genitals.
Are you serious? So you've never heard a girl called a pussy? Where do you guys live to where people use these words like this?
This is my experience in my 32 years of life with the term.
And what does it imply when two people are trying to kill someone?
Again, a reminder it says "cunts"
This isn't a UN council meeting with a speaker calling attendees cunts.
I'm genuinely wonder, what is it that you're arguing here exactly? Or are you just lamenting the usage of the word?
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I'm from the UK, so it's not a problem. I think Americans need to grow the fuck up about that word.