It wasn't much different with PS4, it's first "new" full game was RE Revelations 2 in 2015. And that was cross-gen, it took another year for PS4 to get a real current gen game (SFV) and Sony had to buy that.
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NPD July 2018: Octopath Traveler #1, Switch Best Selling Console
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Strider game out on PS4 in February 2014. 3 months after launch.
Equivalent to Megaman 11, over a year and a half after launch.
That was a digital title. Also cross-gen and not actually made by Capcom, it was sort of a leftover from when they were still outsourcing core properties to western devs.
That's great and all but including Switch in their plans would only add to their sales and increasingly so moving forward as the install base climbs.
Feels a bit like moving the goal post a bit.
Probably similar in scale and budget despite getting a digital release.
Being cross gen has no bearing I think
Switch's crazy success probably won't change set minds. It could sell 30m units in just a month and some people would still refuse to make games for it (hint: EA). I don't even expect serious support from Square either. Their future lineup for Switch is most predictable: Octopath 2, couple of Dragon Quest spinoffs, some rom dumps, remasters of old Nintendo only games (like TWEWY, maybe games like Bravely Default or 4 Heroes of Light in the future). That's it. No Final Fantasy, no Kingdom Hearts and nothing from Eidos front.
Why? Beats me. Could be anything from an addiction to Sony's moneyhats to the executives believing a drunken soothsayer who told them supporting Nintendo will be their downfall. Whatever it is, Capcom's actions vis a vis the Switch aren't rational or logical IMO.
Unlike some people, I don't believe all businesses work with sound logic and reasonable decisions. Companies are led by people, and people can be oddly irrational when they choose to. I can see Capcom and EA continuing to ignore the Switch even as it becomes more successful just because they're too stubborn to admit they misread the trends and consider their pride more important than their profits.
The reemergence of japanese games here in North America has been one of the best things about this gen.
First, I'd agree that the Wii U had good support at launch... One of the best ever. And second, that COD's and AC's absence are definitely felt on the Switch.
However, if you're going start padding the list with cross-gen and late ports like you did... you'll never win against the Switch because so much of its 3rd party line up is the same type of fluff. After Splinter Cell, I'd say every game on your list has an equally important, if not bigger, counterpart on the Switch. Some of the games you listed also had some serious bad-will attached to them because of the publisher's idiotic decisions... ME3 (problems well known), Rayman Legends (delayed 6 months so they could make it multi platform), Need for Speed (delayed into the next year despite being finished). I'm all for a good list war, but that it is not.
But the area where I think most people are probably taking issue with your list is that while the Switch may be missing key titles from some expect supporters, its making up for that with new or unexpected supporters. Bethesda is already strong supporter, Blizzard is releasing a game for the first time in generations, and Epic just released their first game on a Nintendo platform ever. These companies are bringing some major releases (some of the biggest even), so it isn't just Indies stepping up. And over all, the outlook just looks better.
Hey, I'm not saying I don't agree... but let's try to look into the future for a second. Nintendo seems to have a found a very comfortable corner in the market with Switch here that appeals to the core consumer (and hopefully eventually everyone else). From here on out we may be easily be looking at a decade+ of Nintendo having very successful platforms that appeal to the exact kind of consumer these publishers make games for. Nintendo has not been in this sort of position for generations and time is finally on their side.
So while there may be some hesitancy and irrationality right now from certain publishers, logic suggests that sooner or later, better judgement will inevitably prevail and we will begin to see change everywhere -- particularly as Nintendo grows and establishes their install-base, their online infrastructure, and we see continual victories like Octopath from industry peers.
Companies change and are in a constant state of flux, and their leadership and mantras evolve overtime. The dark ages cannot last forever as long as Nintendo continues to shine the light... and yeah, money talks.
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Well, good thing the Switch is it's own machine then :)
The Vita comparison is far from accurate. Again, nobody will deny that missing out on some of the bigger names is a bit of a bummer. Doesn't mean there is a lot coming to the system which is fantastic as well.
So no, I'd argue that the situation on the Switch is far better and it's release list after 1,5 years is so much better than the Wii U's list.
Oh yes, evil Sony moneyhatted Capcom to not release their games on Nintendo consoles.
These threads are getting worse by the month.
I didn't get a answer couple pages back was wondering retail wise where games like state of decay 2, and sea of thieves stand on npd charts for 2018?
I never said that. Feel free to fight your strawman if it pleases you.
Though I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Sony moneyhatted Capcom to keep Monster Hunter World a PS4 console exclusive and avoid releasing any other MH games in western markets for a year after MHW was released.
Also literally no advertising because EA refused to spend a penny on it.
Square Enix has said the Switch is the best platform for mid-budget titles, so we'll see more along those lines from them, along with ports of their older titles and some newer ones. Square Enix is possibly the Switch's strongest Japanese supporter, so there's no reason to expect they'd not take it seriously.
What does that even mean? Generations is coming out in a few days for Switch.
Agreed. Plus indies are in a much different spot then they were even a couple years ago. Now smaller games are going toe to toe with some of the bigger titles as far as how engaging they are.
Dead Cells is a great example. That's the newest "big game" and it can be played on the Switch.
Lol Say he's fighting straw men and then post such ridiculous nonsense after with MHGU coming out in a few days lol.
switch will never be the console with the best AAA third party support. but it will be the only one that offers at least a selected few AAA to be played on the go with traditional console control scheme. and that's a hell of a sales argument.
Yep. And it's not stopping any other platform from having amazing games too... so... what is the last few pages of this thread?
Yeah, markets and their audience just change.
That's why I'm happy to see several comments from Mat and John Harker about third party software performance and allocating resources for testcases. The Switch kind of invites people to buy software in droves (I imagine the big indie scene and digital helps a lot) and I wonder what makes people buy other software as well. I always theorized that people who like Nintendo systems generally buy into historical IP like Castlevania, Street Fighter, Sonic or games with big brandnames like Star Wars, Dragon Ball or others. But with Bethesda saying their games perform well and bring Doom Eternal day and date... I guess I'm wrong. It's intresting to see this pattern change with Switch.
It's not, it's why I said "full" title. Produced by Capcom Japan with a packaged release.
That's a localization of a game that was released a year ago in Japan, which was previously a port from the 3DS version. I don't think that counts as a new game.
This kind of threads, you see them in MC every week. But im happy to see that NPD handle those topics with a little less of salt.
MC main topics are MH, Capcom, Nintendo and the lack of 3rd party games on Switch. Plus a JRPG leading the chart, and Switch / PS4 / MS hardware sales, just like in Japan.
MC main topics are MH, Capcom, Nintendo and the lack of 3rd party games on Switch. Plus a JRPG leading the chart, and Switch / PS4 / MS hardware sales, just like in Japan.
Well you are in a Sales thread, and these threads creates these things
It's still a MH game which isn't on other platforms therefore making your previous post invalid
I never said or implied that MH was moneyhatted to be a Sony exclusive, only that I wouldn't be surprised if there were timed exclusivity agreements to give MHW preferential treatment on the PlayStation (similar to the Crash Bandicoot trilogy). I certainly don't believe MHXX needed an entire year to localize.
MH hasn't been a prevalent topic for MC threads in months.
Its a new game for the west. (And obviously Capcom capatalizing on MH success and tide things over when a new Switch MH gets made)
member when we all though World's release would kill the MH discussions in the MC threads?
I member
I dont know what are you guys talking. There hasnt been a major MH discussion in the MC threads in months, In fact I think there has been more MH discussion here, in the NPD thread, than in MC.
Good to see the switch on top. The undock mode is nearly my favorite handheld of all time and i been through all of em.
All of the MH discussions on Era for the longest time have been either in the NPD threads or in threads about Capcom. I don't know what MH discussion they're talking about.
People will always complain about MH though and this goes back years.
For me, the behaviour of Capcom is very telling. They've ported some stuff across to switch, but
- None of it is new
- They're missing the stuff people actually want
- They cant release stuff day and date with other systems
- They cant fit a collection of roms onto a cart
- They had to be begged to release an already localised 3ds port to the system, and they only managed that after a year and a half
- They cant be bothered to publish physical versions of their software (which even indies manage)
- They're constantly making excuses for their terrible support
Capcom has been a poorly run company for sometime. Ono publically spoke to the fact that Capcom had refused to fund SFV even though SFIV was a massive success for the company. Sony bought exclusivity funding SFV and its nowhere near the sales of IV. Street fighter lost ground across millions of devices because Capcom refused to fund one of their largest franchise.