Watching the news it seems the ramp he got on was confusing, Infact the news lady says they saw someone else make the same mistake. He might have been suicidal but what we don't know is if he intentionally got on the wrong ramp. What we do know however is that three people are tragically dead, an unfortunate situation all around.
People here calling a human "garbage" or "piece of shit" and condemn him because "he scammed" on a dumb little game are not better than him.
Even the circumstances of the crash are unclear, there could easily been many other reasons than suicide.
You really want to be going to bat for the guy who murdered a 12 year old and her mother?
Congratulations on crerrypicking my argument and twisting it into a narrative I"m not trying to push.He tried to crash into a school...before going a hundred miles per hour on the wrong side of the freeway. The wrong side at a hundred miles! It's pretty easy to get the gist of the situation. And full knowledge of the situation? A situation where a parent and her child died? Yeah, that's impossible since the guy who created the situation and knows the most about whatever he was doing is dead, for fuck's sake. You're no better than the rest of us, mate.
Rest in peace to the two victims. Should there be an afterlife, may this jerk realize what a terrible thing he did.
Well said.Congratulations on crerrypicking my argument and twisting it into a narrative I"m not trying to push.
How about you pull the same argument into the douchebags here that write low-effort posts like "Scum" instead of emphatizing with the victims, their family (Even the "Murderer" had one you know?) And the people around who had to see the incident?
Hell, even if I WAS advocating for this individual in particular. This is a very sensitive topic, if the dude waa alive and could actually defend himself from the backlash and the law, then it would be different, alas, the dude is dead and the hard evidence pointing towards intentional damage to property and/or people's lives is forever buried with him until some objective psychological tests are developed.
Also, "This outlet affirms he was going to crash in a School before he crashed with the family" is NOT evidence, anecdotal evidence and false interpretation. Are crimes in and by themselves, what is this? The middle ages? Drugs, Alcohol, shit that could easily twist a 18-year old, those are actual evidence.
You know what the morbid part about this is? The fact that wishing for someone to go to hell and actually wishing for his/her death are not too different.
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-it-bad-to-wish-for-someones-death
This is my last post in this thread, I don't want to detail any further with inflammatory posts.
Watching the news it seems the ramp he got on was confusing, Infact the news lady says they saw someone else make the same mistake. He might have been suicidal but what we don't know is if he intentionally got on the wrong ramp. What we do know however is that three people are tragically dead, an unfortunate situation all around.
People here calling a human "garbage" or "piece of shit" and condemn him because "he scammed" on a dumb little game are not better than him.
Even the circumstances of the crash are unclear, there could easily been many other reasons than suicide.
I think people might be calling him scum because he murdered a mother and child.People here calling a human "garbage" or "piece of shit" and condemn him because "he scammed" on a dumb little game are not better than him.
Even the circumstances of the crash are unclear, there could easily been many other reasons than suicide.
You're right, calling a murderer a piece of shit is just as bad as brutally murdering a 12 year old child and her mother.People here calling a human "garbage" or "piece of shit" and condemn him because "he scammed" on a dumb little game are not better than him.
Even the circumstances of the crash are unclear, there could easily been many other reasons than suicide.
The mother and daughters' family has a Go Fund Me page posted in this thread.Congratulations on crerrypicking my argument and twisting it into a narrative I"m not trying to push.
How about you pull the same argument into the douchebags here that write low-effort posts like "Scum" instead of emphatizing with the victims, their family (Even the "Murderer" had one you know?) And the people around who had to see the incident?
This isn't a court of law. And if this was one, driving under the influence is a crime for a reason. You think peoples' judgement would be any more charitable if this asshole decided to drive on the wrong side of the interstate at 100 mph because he was drunk?Hell, even if I WAS advocating for this individual in particular. This is a very sensitive topic, if the dude waa alive and could actually defend himself from the backlash and the law, then it would be different, alas, the dude is dead and the hard evidence pointing towards intentional damage to property and/or people's lives is forever buried with him until some objective psychological tests are developed.
Also, "This outlet affirms he was going to crash in a School before he crashed with the family" is NOT evidence, anecdotal evidence and false interpretation. Are crimes in and by themselves, what is this? The middle ages? Drugs, Alcohol, shit that could easily twist a 18-year old, those are actual evidence.
Thirty minutes before the crash, Heitmann crashed thrugh the gates of a Carmel Valley elementary school, the station reported.
Before that, his father called police to report his son had sped off in the McLaren after hitting a family car in the process, according to the station.
Seems this guy had something else going on possibly drunk, in a rage fit he was acting strange at least 30 minutes prior to the wreck. This dude was probably raging. Sad that he killed two others but he clearly had issues.
When you take 2 other innocent lives with you, you lose all sympathy from me about what issues you were dealing with.
Sorry for your loss. I've had two friends pass away fairly recently from natural causes that was hard enough to conceive; I can't even begin to imagine what having a friend take their own life feels like.
People here calling a human "garbage" or "piece of shit" and condemn him because "he scammed" on a dumb little game are not better than him.
if you don't want to live, i guess most people will judge you for committing suicide, but why the fuck do you think you should bring other people down too?
extremely tragic
Yep as usual, all these anime avatars defending this waste of space. No tears for this rich white murderer.
Congratulations on crerrypicking my argument and twisting it into a narrative I"m not trying to push.
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Yeah fuck this guy. Too bad he's not going to be alive to see the suffering he's caused to their families. Robbed two innocent people of their lives.Read through the article and this guy was trying to Ram his car into an elementary school. What was up with this guy?? This could've been another Elliott Rodgers situation .
Wait, are you saying that he didn't crash the elementary school just 30 minutes before the fatal crash? Because that is confirmed by the San Diego police that it was him and that is indeed a crime regardless if he was under the influence or not.Also, "This outlet affirms he was going to crash in a School before he crashed with the family" is NOT evidence, anecdotal evidence and false interpretation. Are crimes in and by themselves, what is this? The middle ages? Drugs, Alcohol, shit that could easily twist a 18-year old, those are actual evidence.
UPDATE: Officials identify the teen who plowed through an elementary school fence before causing a fatal, wrong-way crash on I-805 Thursday as 18-year-old Trevor Heitmann, a popular YouTube personality known as "McSkillet."
I mean the fact that we now know he intentionally killed people changes the situation considerably.Here's the GoFundMe page for the victims. https://www.gofundme.com/aryana-amp-aileen-memorial-fund
Thanks! If you're still lurking: shut off the computer and take a good hard look at yourself, dude.
You too. Seriously.
There's no reason to defend this YouTuber that can't be weighed against the fact that he was ultimately okay with killing people by driving 100 miles per hour on the wrong side of the road. Any sympathetic reasons he has or had can't change that! We'll never know what problems he may have been struggling with, but we'll sure know whatever they were made him okay with taking other lives with him.
If it somehow turns out that it was all a horrific misunderstanding and this YouTuber was actually in a freak situation, then...I guess I'll feel kind of bad that I thought he was a terrible person and be like "well, hope he rests in peace too even though he was still a pretty scummy person in life"? Him being a scummy person in life, by the way, doesn't really help the evidence (put that word in quotes if you'd like) that he did all this stuff without a care.
Anyhow, sorry you feel like we're terrible people for hating a guy for murdering people. Even though he's dead, do you expect people to be like "oh, he's dead, so there's no reason to feel anger at him and his actions and actually we're all going to pity him instead of being angry he killed people"? It's totally possible to pay condolences to the victims and simultaneously be disgusted with the perpetrator.
I don't even get why I'm writing this when I'm obviously not going to change your minds. I guess I'm just frustrated. Anyhow, last I'll say on this.