That's the issue I keep running into. I only use in in a fun handbuff deck, but most of the time it makes more sense to play Tirion instead, and unless it gets oozed it's like "how can I possibly hold all these swords?!"
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This tavern brawl is fantastic. I wouldn't mind having this every week. I've had a few games where everything seems lost, but then I smash the treasure and get exactly what I need to turn things around (the opposite has happened too).
The worst brawl for me was sometime in march I think, it was a single player event where we had to create a deck and I think the opponent got stronger minions if you didn't kill them or something similar. I had pretty much only basic cards and not much experience in the game back then so I couldn't beat it.
I want to recommend this game to my friends and family, but the new player experience is either disheartening and unfair or too expensive, so I know for certain they'd quit after a few games. I hope they address this when they fix the ladder next year
The worst brawl for me was sometime in march I think, it was a single player event where we had to create a deck and I think the opponent got stronger minions if you didn't kill them or something similar. I had pretty much only basic cards and not much experience in the game back then so I couldn't beat it.
I want to recommend this game to my friends and family, but the new player experience is either disheartening and unfair or too expensive, so I know for certain they'd quit after a few games. I hope they address this when they fix the ladder next year
I've grown to love Bonemare. It's the one common that can stand up to legendaries power level wise. Very democratic. Or rabble rousing, depending on your perspective.
I don't think I'll ever despise a brawl more than that dumb Chess one. Ugh.
My typical evening opponents:
Game 1: Ramp --> Medivh --> UI. He only got an Ultrasaur so it was only my bad plays to blame.
Game 2: Triple Keleseth on turn 2 followed by topdeck 1cc pirate. That's 10 power, 4 of which has haste, on turn 3.
Game 1: Ramp --> Medivh --> UI. He only got an Ultrasaur so it was only my bad plays to blame.
Game 2: Triple Keleseth on turn 2 followed by topdeck 1cc pirate. That's 10 power, 4 of which has haste, on turn 3.
It's a good card now. It's a guaranteed +10 HP boost on turn 9 and provides consistent healing (Lifesteal weapon) and threat that has to be dealt with (Horseman). Why do you think its bad?
As to your question, I wouldn't dust it. I'd wait to see what Paladins are getting in K&C.
I think the problem with Uther is that it nullifies all of your Recruit synergy cards. Blizzard hasn't done much to support other Paladin archetypes outside of DS. So what does it synergize with? Most of the DK cards fall into deck archetypes and open up new options or improve consistency.
Uther's hero power is just way worse than the others. Keeping 2/2s alive for four turns is practically impossible.
I don't think it's terrible, I've just found it staying in hand a lot. The +1+1 for the hero power tokens are a nice bonus, but don't think I've ever had more than 2 on board at a time. The weapon and armor are nice, but I tend to play Tirion first if both are in hand. If they don't have hard removal it's nice to put them in a place where they have to figure out how to deal with the shield, then the body, then the weapon. If they do have the hard removal, I still have Uther.
You're right though, I'm gonna at least wait til the full set is revealed. Maybe I can even resist the urge to craft some goofball shit on launch day and wait til the meta shakes out after a couple weeks.
Man I feel like an idiot again playing this game. Facing €100 worth of legendaries most games and losing a lot of games because of it. The p2w is so goddamn strong.
Mobius put it well, my decks are just glorified arena piles.
Mobius put it well, my decks are just glorified arena piles.
I think your deck was not bad but missing a few key cards that represent the real end game strategy to it. That is why I said it was like you had really good arena decks.
You don't actually need legendary cards to beat decks with legendary cards though. Take that secret mage deck for example.
I went to an in person tourney yesterday and it was a shitshow. it started late so they made it best of 3. I went out 1-2. I drew patches in 3 of my losses and got nut drawn in the 4th.
I helped a bunch of people get nemsy so that was cool I guess.
I helped a bunch of people get nemsy so that was cool I guess.
Yeah, you can get a win rate of just under 50 no problem. I don't think I'd do essentially better on the secret deck. I'd make it if not for the mandatory cash dump for Kara. No sense in it when all want is a couple of commons. Much more sense in just straight going for the FLJ craft. Which brings us back to square one.
Incidentally, I just faced Kazakus, Raza and Shadowreaper Anduin on curve. That's the late season rank 15. This is just not a game for the plucky underdog. And considering the size of the player pool with these kinds of money cards, Blizz is definitely not making a true casual/newb format any time soon. People will pay. Even I might cave.
Rank 15 is a fine rank. What rank do you think you deserve to get to before seeing good decks?
there's a ladder rework coming which will hopefully address those concerns.
I definitely feel bad when I slack off for a season and then start the next season at a super low rank.
I definitely feel bad when I slack off for a season and then start the next season at a super low rank.
15 is like the basic rank for people who play the game regularly. I don't think two AAA games' worth is a good baseline of investment if you want to actually progress. I mean I'd be happy to be put into some farm league to grind out my decks until I feel ready to take on the trifecta.
Ah yeah I see medivh's valet. That's quite a strong card too.
15 is already better than something like 75% of the playerbase.
it's not like making legend makes too much of a difference, it's always between rank 20 to 17, it's a miserable drop each season.
I feel like the ladder has issues on 2 points. The one that hits more people is the amount of people stuck at low ranks around 18-20. It doesn't feel good to get stuck at a low rank and since there are so many people, it's not even likely they're of all the same skill level. I don't know how you change that and keep the single star gain and loss system. You could make every win gain you a rank but that might feel pretty artificial and might not sufficiently solve that issue.
The other issue which impacts a relatively smaller pool of people is rank 5-1. I don't even think they need to change the amount of wins it takes to get to rank 1 or legend. They could, however, spread those stars amongst more ranks. Expand all the stars in 5 ranks to 10 ranks. You can still have ranking floors at 5 and 10. This way it'll make it feel like you're ranking up closer to your progress in terms of wins and losses.
They can go of course further and change everything, but I think these are the two main issues. Rank 5->1 where it feels super slow to rank up because each rank has so many stars, and low ranks around 17-20 where people get stuck.
The other issue which impacts a relatively smaller pool of people is rank 5-1. I don't even think they need to change the amount of wins it takes to get to rank 1 or legend. They could, however, spread those stars amongst more ranks. Expand all the stars in 5 ranks to 10 ranks. You can still have ranking floors at 5 and 10. This way it'll make it feel like you're ranking up closer to your progress in terms of wins and losses.
They can go of course further and change everything, but I think these are the two main issues. Rank 5->1 where it feels super slow to rank up because each rank has so many stars, and low ranks around 17-20 where people get stuck.
I've hit legend before and I've spent like 20 bucks on the game.
Probably less because I think some of that was free Amazon coins from somewhere.
Just have to keep your eye out for the cheaper decks that are good in the current meta. There's always something.
Top 30% according to the tooltip. But that's top 30% of everyone who's hit ranked play even once this month, right? There's IMO a clear divide between 15 and the lower ranks. Feels like I eventually just luck myself into 15, whatever deck I play. After that it's a rollecoaster but with a consistent fall back to 15 no stars. I would sometimes go below were it possible.
If you're new to the game and have only 1 or 2 legendaries, I don't mean this as a rude question, but why do you feel 15 is a basic rank?
Is it because that is where you've ended up as you describe above?
I hit rank 15 in my first month of playing with no money spent. I think it's fair to call it basic.
That describes your experience. Someone could hit legend their first month.
But would anyone say hitting legend is "basic"?
Migrated over to Arena again after the DK patch and having much more fun than I was. Is it just me though or is drafting quite difficult at the moment - I never seem to get as many 2-drop or 4-drop choices as I used to when I played Arena before. It always seems like I'm stuck between choosing 3-drops and 5-drops instead? I usually draft by using the Lightforge Tier List for my first 10 cards just choosing the best value cards, then the next 10 I also use Lightforge but take into consideration my existing draft and synergies and then my last 10 cards I try to fill holes in my curve and get board clears/single target removal if I need em, but I just keep getting 3 and 5 drops which doesn't really help either end of my curve as, historically, 2 and 4 drops are what you want? Little frustrating, dunno if I'm just being unlucky.
EDIT: Also, I read at the weekend that Hearthstone might be coming to Switch?
EDIT: Also, I read at the weekend that Hearthstone might be coming to Switch?
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I love playing Miracle rogue so much, especially when you get a huge Edwin they can't answer or snowball with Questing + removals. So satisfying.
Also while Valeera isn't great, it's a really damn fun card. Attacking Face/Trading with Arcane Giants -> Vanish -> make even more, so good when it works well.
Also while Valeera isn't great, it's a really damn fun card. Attacking Face/Trading with Arcane Giants -> Vanish -> make even more, so good when it works well.
Several reasons, I'll recap:
a) There's millions of players on the ladder, a large proportion of whom just want their card back.
b) I'm not an extraordinary player.
c) You can eventually luck onto rank 15 because the win streaks required are not big.
they are confirmed to be worked on, but there is no apparent release on sigh. I speculate they could be released at the start of next standard year
finally hit that sweet spot in the season where i'm mostly seeing other bad decks at rank 10
https://hsreplay.net/replay/B7QFpWK3Pw65C6R8gCCinG
https://hsreplay.net/replay/Wou6bytusFL9ApWFRTTGN4
the class distribution at this level is wild
https://hsreplay.net/replay/B7QFpWK3Pw65C6R8gCCinG
https://hsreplay.net/replay/Wou6bytusFL9ApWFRTTGN4
the class distribution at this level is wild
And it's fine. Like any f2p game the ones who have played long/payed should have an advantage over you.
Just checked and the same reveal stream for Frozen Throne with Day9 had 11 card reveals. So 10-12 today seems like a good bet.
it should be Dec. 7th give all this schedule and how they did on the past.
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