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Polygon | The Ripper: The Disturbing Visceral Games Project That Never Was (Final Version 95% Done)
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I'd have likely bought this. I really like anything jack the ripper related. I think the legend has kind of grown beyond the actual crimes and he's almost akin to a classic horror/slasher movie villain now. Like Freddy or Jason. Like he's almost become unreal. But much like Freddy and Jason, despite being the bad guy of those films, you ultimately like them as bad guys. You want to know more about them. Want action figures of them...
And I say that in a level headed, non serial killer way...I promise... Lol
And I say that in a level headed, non serial killer way...I promise... Lol
Sometimes you need a different perspective in the room to say " no that's stupid as hell and offensive. Just no"
I'd say because it was DLC and not a mainline game. It also wasn't heavily advertised
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To be clear the version that was 95% complete was the final iteration of the game. It was a multiplayer only title at that point.
That's the dumbest idea I've ever heard. I'm having a hard time thinking of something that can top it. "You play as Jack the Ripper and kill his actual victims but they're really vampires so it's okay but maybe he's just hallucinating!" Jesus Christ, it's almost impressive.
Yeah, I got that after finishing the article. Teaches me not to post half-way through reading something :S
what if he was trying to kill alien parasites instead of vampires?
14:47 if the timestamp doesn't work
Jack the Ripper fiction is weird
This is actually disappointing for me, I would have bought this in a heart beat. I actually remember when it first leaked and I was so excited about it. Now we have more information about what could have been, and this sounds even more amazing and depressing at the same time.
As for the story, I would have liked this take much more
Visceral had some creative talent and I am absolutely crushed with EA killing it.
We lost Dead Space , We never got Dante's Purgatorio either despite Dante's Inferno being pretty good but releasing in a bad window (one month before God of War 3), and now this.
It is not like all these first and third person shooters have turned me into a mass murder, nor did playing as good old Kratos turn me into some sort of killing machine. So I think I'm good.
As for the story, I would have liked this take much more
The idea of experiencing this as delusions would have been so crazy good, it reminds me a bit of Hellblade. I believe the shock of playing as Jack The Ripper and seeing these crimes in twisted ways would have been quite something. A shame it didn't work out.
Visceral had some creative talent and I am absolutely crushed with EA killing it.
We lost Dead Space , We never got Dante's Purgatorio either despite Dante's Inferno being pretty good but releasing in a bad window (one month before God of War 3), and now this.
Totally agree and this too,
It is not like all these first and third person shooters have turned me into a mass murder, nor did playing as good old Kratos turn me into some sort of killing machine. So I think I'm good.
Jack the Ripper actually being a misunderstood vampire hunter ia a kind of funny premise, but using the actual vistims is really gross. Where its essientially done though, I hope we get to see more of it some point.
All sounds good until the killing real victims part
Like yeah make them part of the vampire lore, perhaps killed by someone else, but don't you dare make them evil and you kill them
Talk about tasteless
Like yeah make them part of the vampire lore, perhaps killed by someone else, but don't you dare make them evil and you kill them
Talk about tasteless
this sounds fucking fascinating to me.
I love the research and even crazy theories behind Jack the Ripper and think this could have intrigued me as much as all the reading I've done and I sure did love Visceral.
Man. How sad.
Also not entirely shocking it ever saw the light of day, though.
I love the research and even crazy theories behind Jack the Ripper and think this could have intrigued me as much as all the reading I've done and I sure did love Visceral.
Man. How sad.
Also not entirely shocking it ever saw the light of day, though.
The game encourages players to empathize with sex workers, by putting them in the shoes of
Well it's dead but if it had gotten made I'd rather they go with the take of the vampires actually being delusions and you're killing innocent people the whole time rather than the victims literally being vampires. Sounds like they started with it being ambiguous but got away from it once they went deep in the lore.
This was a very bad idea right from the start lol. It's all based on the popularity of the name, take that away and see what you have, that's where they should have thought about if they are actually invested in a great idea or if they try to use the popularity and find ways to mask the obvious and circumvent a PR nightmare.
Make the exact same story but remove the name, still a great idea?
Make the exact same story but remove the name, still a great idea?
Whole Jack The Ripper being misunderstood, tormented soul sounds very teenage edgy. Having once read about one of the victims and what she went through I do find game's premise really tasteless. Yuck.
Ripper had been built on the tech powering Dead Space and other games, but there had long been pressure from EA executives to switch to DICE's Frostbite engine. The industry perceived it as a stronger engine at the time, but despite many assessments on the feasibility of a switch, no one bit — until after a few team leadership changes. Mid-2010, the Ripper team finally switched engines, and new issues almost immediately sprung up.
I know production had other problems, but yeesh. Frostbite claims another victim. Really, how many times does this has to happen for EA to finally stop doing that? Some EA executive/s seem really out of touch.
Ripper had been built on the tech powering Dead Space and other games, but there had long been pressure from EA executives to switch to DICE's Frostbite engine. The industry perceived it as a stronger engine at the time, but despite many assessments on the feasibility of a switch, no one bit — until after a few team leadership changes. Mid-2010, the Ripper team finally switched engines, and new issues almost immediately sprung up.
I know production had other problems, but yeesh. Frostbite claims another victim. Really, how many times does this has to happen for EA to finally stop doing that? Some EA executive/s seem really out of touch.
When was this exactly anyway? Everything about this premise sounds like a terrible idea and absolutely tone-deaf in the age of the 'Incel Rebellion'.
And judging by the bolded reactions in the article, others at EA and the focus-groups agreed too. God, I'd never think I'd say I was in agreement with EA Focus Testers for once.
And judging by the bolded reactions in the article, others at EA and the focus-groups agreed too. God, I'd never think I'd say I was in agreement with EA Focus Testers for once.
"Jack the Ripper was actually a hero, as his victims were vampires in disguise. I conceded that it was a clever twist"
That's not a clever twist. It's tasteless and dumb.
That's not a clever twist. It's tasteless and dumb.
Not everyone is excited by the idea of role playing as a misogynist murderer that hacked up women in real life.
You do you, though.
Well, that's some ridiculously edgy nonsense.
Making a real serial killer into someone relatable and framing their victims as being monsters... how could you seriously think that was at all respectful or a good idea, even before it turned into the edgier and bloodier mess, featuring vampire dicks, that it apparently became? Even the ~is it real or is it a delusion~ bit is tired as hell; I guess the Freemasons manipulating you bit is at least slightly different, but not by much.
Making a real serial killer into someone relatable and framing their victims as being monsters... how could you seriously think that was at all respectful or a good idea, even before it turned into the edgier and bloodier mess, featuring vampire dicks, that it apparently became? Even the ~is it real or is it a delusion~ bit is tired as hell; I guess the Freemasons manipulating you bit is at least slightly different, but not by much.
I'd have been interested to see the idea unfold. But can see why it would've been a hard thing to craft.
You definitely don't want Jack to be a relatable character who the player feels bad for due to their delusions. But on the same hand, very rarely if ever do straight up villains get any sort of limelight.
I don't blame them for cancelling the MP only title though. That would've been a hard sell during that period. With its only hope being a $15 dollar title like BF 1943.
You definitely don't want Jack to be a relatable character who the player feels bad for due to their delusions. But on the same hand, very rarely if ever do straight up villains get any sort of limelight.
I don't blame them for cancelling the MP only title though. That would've been a hard sell during that period. With its only hope being a $15 dollar title like BF 1943.
I feel like the twist could work if they didn't reveal that you're Jack the Ripper and actually killing innocents until the end, ala Spec Ops.
The idea that this is somehow too dark or conterversial is silly. GTAV pulled off Trevor. You can basically make any level of monstrous protagonist work if done properly (which to be fair, isn't an easy ask). The reality bending stuff sounds cool.
Seems like it was a victim more of the engine juggling and forced multiplayer that was so common at the time. Shame. I would've played it.
Seems like it was a victim more of the engine juggling and forced multiplayer that was so common at the time. Shame. I would've played it.
GTAV wouldn't ever pull off Trevor going on rampages based on real life rampages with every victim likeness being lifted for the game, no. That's a level of edge not even a GTA game would reach
Did they read this book? It's a sequel to the original Dracula. Except instead of Dracula dying he won and became the new king of england. It featured ton of historical and ficitional figures of the time. Jack The Ripper was a doctor due to a combination of suvriror's guilt and lust begin to kill vampire prostitutes with a silver scalpel
That's the worst part of the game and it's still based on events from 120+ years ago. It's not like it's stepping on any recent history and any distant relatives would've been well desensitized by the many, many, many adaptations of Jack the Ripper since.
Being responsible for or partaking in historical atrocities in games isn't a particularly uncommon thing in games these days anyway.
They went as far as to read Gotham by Gaslight, so you'd assume so
Did they read this book? It's a sequel to the original Dracula. Except instead of Dracula dying he won and became the new king of england. It featured ton of historical and ficitional figures of the time. Jack The Ripper was a doctor due to a combination of suvriror's guilt and lust begin to kill vampire prostitutes with a silver scalpel
To reiterate, as Jack the game never tells you to kill sex workers. As Evie the game encourages you to defend them and make conditions better for them.
If you took it for what it was DS3 was actually a great game.
It was a strrrrrrrraight up co-op shooter.
Played it with a friend - had a great time.
CoD had to put in a trigger warning for a fictional mass shooting. They thought they could get away with making Jack the Ripper a protagonist while still putting his real victims in the game? They got it fucked up.
While I'm glad their cunts didn't start flashing so you'd know where to stab them, it's still pretty disgusting that the developers thought a real-life murderer would make a better playable character than one of his victims. Trying to take credit for humanizing sex workers while at the same time implementing them as mushrooms in Centipede makes me feel like the streets weren't the only things being gaslighted.
