Source: https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/...whether-to-reopen-abortion-debate_a_23508980/
All of the hell nos.
mod edit: the motion has been defeated, 53% to 47%
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Canadian Conservatives Hint At Re-Opening the Abortion "Debate" [update: motion defeated at 53%]
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All of the hell nos.
mod edit: the motion has been defeated, 53% to 47%
Makes it easier to continue my vote for "anyone but conservative" policy. Barely a few footsteps away from being identical to American Republicans.
As much as I'd love to laugh at the Conservatives melting down in multiple independent ways I'm starting to get early-2016 primary vibes here I've gotta admit
There were a few things PNP highlighted that raised my eyebrows. This was foremost amongst them. Social conservatives are such trash. Fiscal conservatives I hate less, but tend to lean towards "fuck you, got mine" or "bootstraps" bullshit...they're still easy to hate but social conservatives who try to decide how others live their lives are among the worst our society has to offer.
It's a massive rallying cry for conservatives. It gets butts in booths.
Only the social conservative ones. It turns everyone else against them in droves.
As much as I hated Harper, him clamping down on this was the best thing he did, for himself and the rest of us.
Judging from the responses so far, I am jealous of your country's sanity relative to my own. Annex Minnesota please.
Yeah i guess i was projecting American politics onto Canadian politics, that was dumb.
Yeah. Like this is done. No one gives a shit except literally a fringe few.
Are they going to go back and debate the validity of gay marriage next? I hope this blows up in their face just like the niqab "debate".
So Scheer's Tories will be pro-life, and the Bernier Libertarian party will be pro-choice.
I look forward to the next 50 years of Liberal rule, lol.
I look forward to the next 50 years of Liberal rule, lol.
Why do people always say this crap? For one, Canada isn't America. And just because something highly unlikely occured once doesn't mean it's gonna occur again.
I mean, we elected Harper three times and Scheer is posturing to be Harper 2.0. Moreover the Conservative aren't *that* far behind in polling (actually, they were ahead before the Trump trade war gave Trudeau a bump). I'm not saying it's inevitable, but you shouldn't treat a a Conservative win (minority or majority) as a complete nonstarter especially a year out.
The Conservatives even at their most hated still managed to grab 31.89% of the vote. Only down 7.73% from 2011
As all things recently, look at Ontario. The fuckers over at the OPC literally ran on promises of restricting abortions for teens and it still didn't cost them the election
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A lot of that has to do with how much Wynne was hated.
Ontario would have voted for anyone in the OPC.
Dumbass conservatives and their ancient fossil views .
All we need is same sex marriage repeal, a wall.and official climate change denial policy.
That part is coming. They're already testing the waters in Ontario with that nonsense.
The OPC would have actively tried a lot harder - Ford saying the n-word or other racial epitaphs on live tv while pointing a gun at a kitten, to lose that election while Wynne was running
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Sorry, can someone explain in simplier terms, I dont get it.
All I know is that I am pro life, but the pro choice people already have a bunch of legal options to stop life from happening.
Like
condoms
pills
devices
patches
Non abortive surgeries like vasectomy, and matrix extraction,
and so on.
Then on top of all those methods, add abortion... something that literary kills a formed human being. We need to keep our lust in check!
In before rape argument, or similar cases of unwanted babies, give them a chance.
Thanks to those who choose life (which in itself is pretty hard yet an admirable action) we have awesome people like
Cristiano
Bochelli
my two cents...
All I know is that I am pro life, but the pro choice people already have a bunch of legal options to stop life from happening.
Like
condoms
pills
devices
patches
Non abortive surgeries like vasectomy, and matrix extraction,
and so on.
Then on top of all those methods, add abortion... something that literary kills a formed human being. We need to keep our lust in check!
In before rape argument, or similar cases of unwanted babies, give them a chance.
Thanks to those who choose life (which in itself is pretty hard yet an admirable action) we have awesome people like
Cristiano
Bochelli
my two cents...
I can't begin to dimension Canadian politics and culture, but after Trump, this does have me a little worried. This kind of "this will surely make them lose" thought can be kind of dangerous.
What do you mean give them a chance? Would you make a woman who was raped carry the product of said rape?
Can you guarantee a woman that all anti-conception methods are 100% pregnancy proof? Is a woman to be told they cannot determine what to do with their bodies because they forgot a single pill?
In my country, Colombia, a woman was forced to carry a pregnancy to term after she was diagnosed cervix cancer, the treatment would have made the physicians carry an abortion. They refused. When she gave light, the tumor had spread and there was no longer any treatment that could have saved her. She left 4 children orphans. The funny part is she had a bilateral tubectomy before that last pregnancy, and was one of the rare cases where pregnancy occurred. Her name was Martha. Should more of those cases happen?
Read this and take a look on what the "other side" thinks: http://spot.colorado.edu/~heathwoo/Phil160,Fall02/thomson.htm
Too often seems english speaking conservatives take on American political thought. The only reason this is such a big topic in the US is the evangelicals - dont see this as a move which will gain much, if any, support in Canada.
Condoms are not 100% effective. So if I'm 20 and my gf is say 18, for example, we should just have the kid? What if we're in University? How will we pay for all of this?
Just one example. I'm not sure why it's your choice anyway. It should be the woman having the kid making that choice. Full stop.
There aren't many abortions carried out in the third trimester anyway. Other than for what I assume would be medical reasons.
Well, this is one way to lose fiscal conservatives like my sister (who is socially liberal). I can't imagine this would benefit the conservative party.
I am not a Canadian and have no idea what the political scene is like for y'all. But I hope the Canadians chiming in here are correct in saying this will blow up in their faces.