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Sony Music concedes in court that they released fake Michael Jackson songs on posthumous album
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Sorry guys, I've had a quick look through but couldn't quite catch it. Were the song written by him himself? Demos or anything, were they poor recordings so use someone to finish it or what?
Just how much of these 3 songs are him?
Just how much of these 3 songs are him?
Yeah, MJ did do things with his voice in Invincible. So people might have been that it's still him only with enhancements and his old age.
It's funny, our national celebrity news program played a song when this came out back then and the host immediately said "Okay, that's not Michael Jackson. Let's continue". '
I never believed it was him because MJ would never sing "I'm Michael Jackson" like that. He wasn't about that braggadocio.
Oh wow, I knew it.
I'm not even a huge MJ fan but when I heard those songs on the radio I was telling my wife that wasn't him and they were just using an impersonator to cash on his death.
Didnt know there were rumours and other people suggesting the same.
I'm not even a huge MJ fan but when I heard those songs on the radio I was telling my wife that wasn't him and they were just using an impersonator to cash on his death.
Didnt know there were rumours and other people suggesting the same.
Yeah, just listened to them. Breaking news sounds way too obvious, also lyricaly pretty terrible
Monster is okay in the chorus, but the impersonator kinda falls apart in the verses.
Keep ya head up sounds pretty consistent.
So scummy. Also doesnt even make sense because michael surely had tons of leftovers.
Impersonator was definately going for that dangerous- invinicble era michael sound
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Makes me wonder if in the future this will become an established thing to do. Like how there are authors writing in the style of previous authors and it's clearly acknowledged. Will we get a new Aretha Franklin or David Bowie album by other people. I hope to fuck not, but music biz has probably already thought of it - combine it with the hologram tech they've already used and you have even more ways to monetize it.
Funny going to the youtube of the videos now and you see posts from 4 years back calling out that its not Michael and people arguing on if its really him and not. All the people who said it wasn't Michael should all be pushed up to the top of the comments and congratulated.
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Thing is, this isn't likely to be the first time anyone has done something like this. It may be worth looking at all the albums sold posthumously that bait sales with "never before released" music because if they have songs in them that aren't sung by the artist even though it claims they are, you kinda deserve a refund if you want it.
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Now the children don't play
But they will
When Link saves the Day
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I always knew that and I was incredibly pissed when Breaking News was released.
Also: Stop listening/buying posthumous releases of an artist. I don't care if they are legit, Michael never gave permission to release them, so they shouldn't. This is why I like will.i.am btw: He recorded 3 songs with Michael and Sony approached him to put them on this garbo album but he said no and he'll never release them.
The only songs that were released after Michael passed away that I don't mind people listening to are Hold My Hand and Xscape. Both were leaked before Michael died.
Also: Stop listening/buying posthumous releases of an artist. I don't care if they are legit, Michael never gave permission to release them, so they shouldn't. This is why I like will.i.am btw: He recorded 3 songs with Michael and Sony approached him to put them on this garbo album but he said no and he'll never release them.
The only songs that were released after Michael passed away that I don't mind people listening to are Hold My Hand and Xscape. Both were leaked before Michael died.
Ah good ol fake ass Sony. Remember their fake movie critic?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Manning_(fictitious_writer)?wprov=sfla1
Glad this has finally been made public. I think I gave that album a listen through twice at most. Terrible.
I understand people's opposition to posthumous releases, however personally I'm all for them if they're done pure to the source material, no matter the quality. As a fan I don't want remixes, I just want to hear the raw unfinished demos and vocal takes that never made it. But don't market them as proper album releases ffs. The best approach would be comprehensive box sets or album re-releases with bonus discs of material.
The demos on Xscape were fantastic. Though I do have a soft spot for the remixed 'Chicago', primarily for accentuating the backing vocals during the chorus - "She was loving me" / "She was wanting me" / "Holding her to blame" etc.
I understand people's opposition to posthumous releases, however personally I'm all for them if they're done pure to the source material, no matter the quality. As a fan I don't want remixes, I just want to hear the raw unfinished demos and vocal takes that never made it. But don't market them as proper album releases ffs. The best approach would be comprehensive box sets or album re-releases with bonus discs of material.
The demos on Xscape were fantastic. Though I do have a soft spot for the remixed 'Chicago', primarily for accentuating the backing vocals during the chorus - "She was loving me" / "She was wanting me" / "Holding her to blame" etc.
I was always suspicious of Breaking News. Glad I wasnt just crazy.
This is incredibly scummy bullshit.
This is incredibly scummy bullshit.
Those 3 tracks were obvious fakes so glad its finally been made official.
Shame what happened with that album as their were some legit great tracks on the it such as Best of Joy and Behind the Mask was incredible.
Shame what happened with that album as their were some legit great tracks on the it such as Best of Joy and Behind the Mask was incredible.
It seems there's some 'fake news' going on. Sony seemingly haven't admitted to the songs being fake.
This is from a fan who is attending court with the fan suing:
From Sony's lawyer:
The judge summed up the argument also:
I thought it seemed odd that Sony would admit to something as gigantic as this.
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As far as I'm aware these is no proof MJ wrote them. Cascio and Porte (who are responsible for these songs) have no proof of anything whatsoever. They have no video, pictures or outtakes. They claimed they deleted outtakes to make room on discs and that no photos or videos were taken as MJ didn't like that... which is nonsense. Google Image brings up many pictures of MJ in the studio.
The only parts of the songs that are MJ are copy and pasted parts from songs he did release spread out during the tracks. The woos sound like MJ heard on Keep Your Head Up.
This is from a fan who is attending court with the fan suing:
From Sony's lawyer:
The judge summed up the argument also:
I thought it seemed odd that Sony would admit to something as gigantic as this.
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As far as I'm aware these is no proof MJ wrote them. Cascio and Porte (who are responsible for these songs) have no proof of anything whatsoever. They have no video, pictures or outtakes. They claimed they deleted outtakes to make room on discs and that no photos or videos were taken as MJ didn't like that... which is nonsense. Google Image brings up many pictures of MJ in the studio.
The only parts of the songs that are MJ are copy and pasted parts from songs he did release spread out during the tracks. The woos sound like MJ heard on Keep Your Head Up.
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Absolutely nothing new for me. Me and a few friends of mine who have been fan of the dude since day one really heard it straight away. There was no way it was the real Mike.
Crazy to have it official now though.
Crazy to have it official now though.
Didn't Paris Jackson come out years ago and claim it wasn't him on some of the songs on this album? I definitely recall an interview with her saying that
Yep and lots of fans but also lots of fans said the opposite. Saying they had been fans since forever and knew when they heard Mike and this was him they said. I never understood that.
I remember before Breaking News came out they released a snippet. All it was was a signature "ow" by the singer and I already heard it clearly wasn't Mike. Not to mention when the singing started, lol.
50 Cent thought he was with MJ on Monster. Sorry Fif.
Maybe people should have listened to his own daughter? I know it's a crazy concept to think someone's child would recognize their dad singing.
Oh my god that reference takes me back.
I was all on that Soulseek train, baby.
I mean take Jason Malachi's vibrato, that's like a goddamned sheep and nothing like how MJ really sounded. Nothing.
I don't see this news being reported anywhere else though, wow.
I don't see this news being reported anywhere else though, wow.
While I agree with her that the tracks are fake, taking her opinion as fact because she's his daughter doesn't make sense. She wasn't in the studio when these songs were supposedly recorded.
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What should I add to the OP? Or do you think I should request a lock?
I'm not trying to be rude! I genuinely don't want to spread false info. Especially when it comes to a Michael Jackson topic.
I'd probably add it to the OP if I was you. Can you edit titles or not?
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I definitely could request a title update. I just was thinking that it would be a shame to see the first three pages of this thread all saying "I knew it!" and other things, only for it to not be true.
Good point. A lock probably would be a good idea as the claim Sony have admitted to the tracks being fake isn't true. I'm not sure how quick mods are to lock threads so perhaps an edit of the OP for now would be wise.
What utter idiots. They could have been honest and just said "there are songs by Michael and songs he wrote but never recorded. We had this chap sing them". And then everyone would have been able to listen to the songs and the sound-a-like would have a vehicle to launch a career. It would have done nothing negative to the sales.
Wait... the songs sung by the sound-alike WERE written by Michael, right? Or did these fakers not only pretend Michael was singing on the album but also lie about who composed some of the songs?
Wait... the songs sung by the sound-alike WERE written by Michael, right? Or did these fakers not only pretend Michael was singing on the album but also lie about who composed some of the songs?
No proof he wrote the lyrics whatsoever. No written lyrics or anything. Yet there are numerous pictures of past MJ songs with hand written lyrics. Cascio and Porte (who were behind these tracks) say they have no proof it's MJ on the songs besides their word.
I love the deluxe edition, Especially the original versions, they are a treasure
I'd like to hear the rationale for why they have no proof. "So you say Michael wrote these. How do YOU know he did? Where did you read them? Did you lose the originals or what?"
There have been many excuses. In truth they're laughable. There are no demos or outtakes of the songs. Why? Well they claim they deleted them to 'make room on a disc'. Why no photos or videos? 'MJ didn't like that sort of thing.' Google Image search 'MJ in the studio' showcases that to be nonsense. Around the same time frame there are pictures and videos of MJ in the studio with Akon and Will.I.am.
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