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A new medical study recently published in The Lancet that was funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation completely contradicts with most health guidelines when it comes to alcohol, here's the study: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(18)31310-2/

The conclusion of this study:

Conclusion

Alcohol use is a leading risk factor for disease burden worldwide, accounting for nearly 10% of global deaths among populations aged 15–49 years, and poses dire ramifications for future population health in the absence of policy action today. The widely held view of the health benefits of alcohol needs revising, particularly as improved methods and analyses continue to show how much alcohol use contributes to global death and disability. Our results show that the safest level of drinking is none. This level is in conflict with most health guidelines, which espouse health benefits associated with consuming up to two drinks per day. Alcohol use contributes to health loss from many causes and exacts its toll across the lifespan, particularly among men. Policies that focus on reducing population-level consumption will be most effective in reducing the health loss from alcohol use.

CNN article: https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/23/health/global-alcohol-study/index.html

If you're one of the third of all humankind who drinks alcohol, take note: There's no amount of liquor, wine or beer that is safe for your overall health, according to a new analysis of 2016 global alcohol consumption and disease risk.

Alcohol was the leading risk factor for disease and premature death in men and women between the ages of 15 and 49 worldwide in 2016, accounting for nearly one in 10 deaths, according to the study, published Thursday in the journal The Lancet.

For all ages, alcohol was associated with 2.8 million deaths that year.

Those deaths include alcohol-related cancer and cardiovascular diseases, infectious diseases such as tuberculosis, intentional injury such as violence and self-harm, and traffic accidents and other unintentional injuries such as drowning and fires.

"The most surprising finding was that even small amounts of alcohol use contribute to health loss globally," said senior study author Emmanuela Gakidou, a professor at the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation. "We're used to hearing that a drink or two a day is fine. But the evidence is the evidence."

Not surprisingly due to their populations, China, India and Russia led the world in alcohol-related deaths in men and women. The US ranked fifth among men and seventh among women on that list; the UK ranked 21st for men and ninth for women.

"This study is a stark reminder of the real, and potentially lethal, dangers that too much alcohol can have on our health and that even the lowest levels of alcohol intake increase our risks," Helen Stokes-Lampard, chair of the Royal College of General Practitioners in the UK, said in a statement. She was not involved in the study.

The Lancet study, funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, used data from the 2016 Global Burden of Disease report, which captured information on premature death and disability from over 300 diseases by sex and age in 195 countries or territories between 1990 and 2016.

Researchers analyzed the impact of alcohol on 23 health conditions and alcohol-related risks on people between the ages of 15 and approximately 95 for the year 2016.

In independent comments published alongside the study, King's College London alcohol researcher Robyn Burton called the study "state-of-the-art."

"The conclusions of the study are clear and unambiguous: alcohol is a colossal global health issue," Burton wrote, suggesting that policy makers put a priority on programs that focus on decreasing alcohol consumption.


However, the Alcohol Information Partnership, a group comprising eight of the world's biggest liquor companies, said in a statement that "Nothing in this study challenges the array of studies suggesting that choosing to drink moderately is associated with a decreased risk of some health issues and a lower risk of death. We advocate sensible drinking by those who choose to drink and support consistent, evidence-based advice, which enables people to make their own informed choices about alcohol."

The results appear to fly in the face of research that indicates moderate drinking -- in the United States, that's one drink a day for women and two a day for men -- might reduce the risk of heart disease and Type 2 diabetes. That might be true in isolation, Gakidou said, but the picture changes when all risks are considered.

"We too found some protective effects for Type 2 diabetes and ischemic heart disease at low levels of alcohol consumption," she said. "But those benefits are outweighed by the overall adverse health impact of alcohol, even at moderate levels."

Jeremy Pearson, associate medical director at the British Heart Foundation, agreed, saying in a statement, "While there may be a slight benefit to heart and circulatory health from modest drinking, many studies have shown that the overall health risks of drinking alcohol outweigh any benefits."

University of Cambridge epidemiologist Steven Bell co-authored a separate study published in April in The Lancet that found drinking is beneficial in lowering the risk for heart attack. However, that study's big takeaway was that even one drink a day could shorten life expectancy; long-term reduction in alcohol use added one to two years to life expectancy at age 40.

He points out that his study looked only at drinkers, but the new research compared drinkers to non-drinkers in accessing risk and is one of the first to look at data.

"Based on these findings," Bell said, "at no point ... is there a level of consumption that appears to lower the overall risk of developing any of the wide array of diseases investigated in comparison to non-drinking.

"The take-home message being that people shouldn't drink under the belief that it will lower their risk of disease," he said, "and those of us who opt to drink should minimize our intake if we wish to prolong our life and well-being."

CBS News article: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alcohol-and-health-no-safe-level-of-drinking-major-new-study-concludes/

While some medical studies — and a great deal of media attention — have focused on possible health benefits of drinking alcohol in moderation, a large new report warns that the harms of alcohol greatly outweigh any potential beneficial effects. The authors of the study, which looks at data on 28 million people worldwide, determined that considering the risks, there is "no safe level of alcohol."

Alcohol is associated with 2.8 million deaths worldwide each year, the researchers found in the study, which is published in the journal The Lancet. Just over 2 percent of women and nearly 7 percent of men worldwide die from alcohol-related health problems each year.

Regular alcohol consumption can have negative impacts on the body's organs and tissues, while binge drinking can lead to injuries or alcohol poisoning. Alcohol dependence can lead to self-harm or violence
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"Previous studies have found a protective effect of alcohol on some conditions, but we found that the combined health risks associated with alcohol increase with any amount of alcohol," lead author Dr. Max Griswold, of the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington, said in a statement. "In particular, the strong association between alcohol consumption and the risk of cancer, injuries, and infectious diseases offset the protective effects for ischemic heart disease in women in our study."

He added, "Although the health risks associated with alcohol starts off being small with one drink a day, they then rise rapidly as people drink more."

Across the globe, one in three people drink alcohol, equivalent to 2.4 billion people, according to the report.

For the study, the authors reviewed data from 694 studies to estimate how common drinking alcohol is worldwide. They also looked at 592 studies with data on 28 million people in 195 countries to study the health risks associated with alcohol.

Among the many findings, the research showed that drinking alcohol was the seventh leading risk factor for premature death and disease in 2016. That year, in people aged 15 to 49 years old, alcohol was the leading risk factor, with 3.8 percent of deaths in women and 12.2 percent of deaths in men connected to alcohol.

In this age group, the leading causes of alcohol-related deaths included tuberculosis, road injuries, and self-harm. In people age 50 and older, cancers were a leading cause of alcohol-related death, accounting for about 27 percent of deaths in women and 19 percent of deaths in men.

In their review, the authors found that the only protective effect of alcohol came with reducing the risk of ischemic heart disease. There were also possible protective effects for diabetes and ischemic stroke, but these results were not statistically significant.

However, the risk of developing all other health issues increased with the number of alcoholic drinks consumed each day and the harms far outweighed the potential benefits, the authors report.


"Policies focusing on reducing alcohol consumption to the lowest levels will be important to improve health. The widely held view of the health benefits of alcohol needs revising, particularly as improved methods and analyses continue to shed light on how much alcohol contributes to global death and disability," Griswold said.

In an accompanying editorial, Dr. Robyn Burton of King's College London calls the research "the most comprehensive estimate of the global burden of alcohol use to date."

"The conclusions of the study are clear and unambiguous: alcohol is a colossal global health issue and small reductions in health-related harms at low levels of alcohol intake are outweighed by the increased risk of other health-related harms, including cancer," she writes.
 

texhnolyze

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I've never drink alcoholic drink before, sue me.
 

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It's the legal drug that kills you if you try to stop it cold turkey after developing a dependency
 

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Oct 28, 2017
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I love the taste of cocktails, beer, and distilled beverages, but yeah I got tired of alcohol quickly. Boring drug.
 

VegiHam

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Oct 25, 2017
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Wait, only a third of the world's population drinks?

Who's the lame no fun continent screwing the numbers?

(yes I know it's not actually lame to not drink I'm just surprised by this statistic)
 

Dinjooh

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Oct 25, 2017
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Drink once or twice a month, I tell myself that I won't lose too many years doing that.
 

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Oct 26, 2017
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It's a "leading risk factor". They also coupled in things like drunk driving and self-harm which makes sense but the hyperbolic article makes it appear that your chances of disease or cancer is like a billion percent higher than if you don't drink.
 

Qvoth

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This level is in conflict with most health guidelines, which espouse health benefits associated with consuming up to two drinks per day.

A drink or two every single day is fine?
Never heard of it but just by common sense that's a lot of alcohol
 

Dinjooh

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Oct 25, 2017
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A drink or two every single day is fine?
Never heard of it but just by common sense that's a lot of alcohol

I hear this constantly. All the time on the news, because it's a really easy thing to report and anyone will catch on to it. 'Oh did you know that one glass of red wine and two cigars a day is FANTASTIC for your heart?'
 

antonz

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Oct 25, 2017
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Seems like the study is more condemning the side effects of alcohol than alcohol itself. Yes a drunk driver can kill himself or someone else. Yes Impairment can cause accidents, bodily harm etc. They essentially are saying potential health benefits are outweighed by global usage and people who abuse it
 

Flabber

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Oct 31, 2017
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I've never been much of a drinker anyway. I love whisky but don't really enjoy being drunk all that much.

Weed on the other hand...
 
Oct 25, 2017
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No surprise there. People can justify their alcohol use however they want but pretending like there's anything healthy about it is absurd.
 

hjort

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Nov 9, 2017
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Haven't had a drop in more than five years, maybe seven, but I've been very tempted to start again with how the world is at the moment. These news will keep me from buying booze for a while longer though!
 

Cascadero

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Nov 8, 2017
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Not surprised the two glasses of wine per day myth is being contradicted by a proper study. Good thing alcohol is expensive here in Singapore.
Still won't stop me from having the occasional glass of wine or whiskey though, but like with most good things it's important to apply moderation.
 

Wackamole

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Oct 27, 2017
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Yeah this was known for a couple of months now.
I drank soooo much...

I never did violent or stupid shit that harmed me or others though. I don't have that angry turnaround when i drink.
But boy, if i don't die of cancer it will be a miracle.
 

Horp

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Nov 16, 2017
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I quit drinking 14 hours ago.
Dont miss it.
Will prob miss it in about 5-6 hours, so might pick it up again.
 

Occam

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Oct 25, 2017
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That has been known for a while. One of the reasons why I drink very little alcohol.
(The other being, I don't like the way it makes my brain feel).
 

Shahed

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I've never drank alcohol before. I've always been curious what it'd feel like being slightly impaired and tipsy, or even full out wasted. But only for a moment. Still even if I wasn't raised in a way that made alcohol disallowed, I doubt I'd be someone who'd have much of it anyway. Kind of like how I don't smoke, or do recreational drugs. The positive aspects to my financial and physical health are really useful

But from an 'outsider' looking in, I've always wondered about the fascination with alcohol and drinking culture. It never really made much sense to me. It's weird in that during school, whle I had some Asian friends, the majority of people I hung out with were white. As soon as Uni started though, it was almost like an immediate seperation and I slowly drfited away from my white friends, and now hang out with mainly Asians. They didn't understand why I didn't want to hang out in pubs and nightclubs, and I didn't get why alcohol was necessary if we ever had to hang out or go somewhere.
 
I hear this constantly. All the time on the news, because it's a really easy thing to report and anyone will catch on to it. 'Oh did you know that one glass of red wine and two cigars a day is FANTASTIC for your heart?'

I think it all stemmed from some study a guy at my school did which later turned out to be falsified. I still cling to the delicious illusion, though.

I understood that reference.gif

It was late and I was hungry. My hands were tied, basically. :D
 

Diego Renault

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Nov 1, 2017
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Yeah, just stop drinking alcohol. I tried and drank alcohol quite a few times when society pressured me to. Especially around friends. I mean, I was stupid and young and my character was weak. Not anymore, though!

Do you think I wanna live like a scrub? Die like scrub? Fuck alcohol and smoking. Everyone should stop that.
 

PJV3

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Oct 25, 2017
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Oh well, there's no point being the fittest corpse in the cemetery so I think I'll stick to the odd tipple.
 

mangopositive

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Oct 28, 2017
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Look "study"... you legalize marijuana and we'll talk. World's too shitty not to fuzz out a bit on the weekends.
 

AlexBasch

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Oct 27, 2017
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I love drinking. Don't drive at all and never get drunk.

Gonna continue risking my life I guess.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah, just stop drinking alcohol. I tried and drank alcohol quite a few times when society pressured me to. Especially around friends. I mean, I was stupid and young and my character was weak. Not anymore, though!

Do you think I wanna live like a scrub? Die like scrub? Fuck alcohol and smoking. Everyone should stop that.

Please tell me this is sarcasm or some meme or something. Cringed hard as fuck.

Anyway, if I've learned anything from the internet it is that everything is unsafe. Bottoms up.
 

Tezz

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Oct 27, 2017
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Isn't tuberculosis a bacterial disease? I don't know if I'm reading these graphs correctly, but it seems as though tuberculosis gets a huge buff from alcohol. Is that the case? How does that work? Is it because the immune system is weakened by alcohol?
What's worse, I thought there was a vaccine for tuberculosis, but I'm reading elsewhere that it's not that effective?
 

sir_crocodile

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Oct 25, 2017
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I pretty much quit when I got my first job which is a loooooooong time ago now, only time I even drink now is when it's rude not too. Only one I've had this year is whn the host of a party guilted me into having champagne for a toast.

don't miss it
 

AlsoZ

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Oct 29, 2017
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Anyone who drank alcohol "for the health benefits" was such an obvious liar that it's almost funny.