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Urban Meyer failure to report domestic abuse comes to light(Update: Meyer Suspended 3 games)
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I mean you can try to explain it as even-keel as you want but the story boils down to:
Meyer was aware his direct employee was arrested for domestic abuse and was obligated to report it. Instead he sat on it for months with the AD.
Punishment? 3 Game Suspension during the cupcake portion of the program's schedule.
Jim Tressel got fired for not reporting his players getting tattoos for free.
George O'Leary had to resign from Notre Dame for lying on his resume.
It is just not a good look at all and reeks of winning above all else. I can't imagine the shit-storm tomorrow is going to be, I wouldn't be surprised if the backlash is so huge they have to reconsider.
I can't help that my account was approved just as this news was released. I also said in my posts that I believe that accusers should generally be given a presumption of belief, that I initially thought that Meyer should have been fired, but that new information came out in this case to question that. I also said my opinion could change after reading the report.
I'm just glad I went to the University of Arkansas where we fired the best coach that we had in decades because he had an affair with a staff member and lied about it. It's not that hard to have standards.
Must be Ambien again.
Not only does it cause racism, but it also causes domestic violence short term memory loss.
The Ohio Sports University Fightin' Ball Lifters look to have a good shot at the playoff this year!
I'm shocked he won't be able to coach @ TCU. He gets the bullshit prep and I'm sure he'll be able to have some input during, but that game has playoff implications.
Obviously deserved to have his ass thrown out but given how this shitshow has gone I thought he was going to get off entirely.
Obviously deserved to have his ass thrown out but given how this shitshow has gone I thought he was going to get off entirely.
Only if they can make it out from that murderer's row of teams they open with: Oregon State, Rutgers and TCU.
I actually won't be surprised if the justified outrage over this builds and they have to fire him. That report doesn't look good for him.
Zach Smith was never charged or arrested for DV while at Ohio State. Meyer didn't think he had an obligation to report an allegation beyond his AD. Tressel got fired for lying to the NCAA and receiving a "show cause" violation which made him basically unemployable as a coach for 5 years. It's common for people to get fired for lying on a resume. Apples to oranges.
Here's the investigative report in its entirety: https://t.co/AcFmNFaAZH
It's obvious from Meyer's texts that the allegations were of the "he said, she said" type to him, and evidently the police who never once filed even a charge. The independent committee said: "We believe him (Meyer), as did Zach Smith, that if he ever came to learn or believe that Zach Smith had physically abused his wife, Coach Meyer would have fired Zach Smith or any other coach on the spot." And that: "Overall, Coach Meyer impressed us with a sincere commitment to the Respect for Women core value that he espouses and tries to instill in his players."
Now, again, if that's the conclusion arrived at by the independent investigative committee after interviewing over 40 witnesses, including the alleged victim, pouring through 60k electronic documents, 10k pages of texts, police records, etc., I don't see why there's the outrage unless one just doesn't care about the specifics of this situation and acknowledging that we don't have all the facts.
Ultimately, it comes down to the fact that Urban is a known scumbag, and should be given no benefit of the doubt. Plus, nothing in that investigation looks good for him. "Significant memory issues"? Then why the fuck is he still the head of a major college program? JFC.
Defend OSU all you want, but the investigative committee was far from independent, regardless of what they called themselves. It was overseen by three current OSU trustees, a current adjunct professor at OSU's law school, a current member of OSU's Audit and Compliance Committee, and a final individual whom I am sure had no connections to Ohio State, either.
I hasn't followed this story much but after reading the excerpt in the OP my initial reaction is that Courtney Smith not being a current student sadly gave the OSU administration room to mentally justify not punishing Urban Meyer the way that they should have. Ita damn shame that they put winning games over what was right like that.
Hell, Tressel got fired and got slapped with a 5 year show cause penalty, and was even suspended for 5 games as some sort of advisor for the Colts lol.
Did anyone honestly expect anything more to happen here? I'm legitimately surprised he got suspended 3 games.
Yup, the coverup was in full effect from the start.
They even put in the report that he deleted text messages and still went with that "punishment"
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It's not even a decision, it's half in half out taking a piss into the wind in both directions. You can't admit culpability then not fire him, either he did nothing wrong and you stand firm and tell everybody to fuck off or you conclude what they did, that he had a reasonable knowledge and didn't do what he should have and you fire him.
This does nothing, it accomplishes nothing, the university has no spine.
This does nothing, it accomplishes nothing, the university has no spine.
I guess they threw TCU in there because otherwise the capitulation would've been too obvious. Two weeks to prep for PSU though, well in time for a shot at the conference title game, and OSU is second to none in the country at whining their one-loss teams into the playoffs.
Yeah fuck this "suspension". He deserved to be fired. Hope Ohio State tanks every year that he is a coach there. Same goes for the AD. Also piss off anyone who defends this lackluster response.
Entire situation is disgusting.
Entire situation is disgusting.
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Don't expect it, expect a lot of humming and hawing and for it to be quickly forgotten.
The more I think about this the more it pisses me the fuck off.
If a fucking kid got caught TODAY selling a game worn jersey he would be suspended roughly the same amount of time as these people who covered for a guy who BEAT HIS WIFE.
What the fuck?!?!
If a fucking kid got caught TODAY selling a game worn jersey he would be suspended roughly the same amount of time as these people who covered for a guy who BEAT HIS WIFE.
What the fuck?!?!
Quoted for truth.
The fanbase will see this as time served for his unfair vilification / witch hunt and walk around with a chip on their shoulder.
A small but vocal college football fanbase will pray for their losses.
And the rest of college football fans will mutter mealy-mouthed truisms ("Well, he wins games...") until their team is passed over for a playoff spot, at which point they'll wonder why more wasn't done.
And the ball will keep getting snapped, brought to you by Buffalo Wild Wings.
Give me a break. This fuckin guy who had countless player issues while coaching at Florida and now this. He has a shit ton of "blind spots" apparently. Fuck off, Urban.
lmao
"no doubt that meyer respects women"
quality investigation here
Still trying to wrap my head around the spin of "yeah he lied but but but he didn't deliberately lie".....what in the blue fuck.....
THe first thing Urban did after learning about it was try to delete texts. The investigative committee was a bunch of OSU slappys. This is a clowny take.
lmao
"no doubt that meyer respects women"
quality investigation here
This is the university also in the middle of a men's wrestling coach and current Congressman being involved in covering up sexual assault.
Priorities are certainly right up in Columbus.
Fuck him and fuck OSU. I live in Cleveland and OSU fans are the fucking WORST. I hope they suck forever.