My thread is going to be titled "If you dont like Xenoblade 2 then why did you buy the expansion?"
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Xenoblade 2 is not a great game
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My thread is going to be titled "If you dont like Xenoblade 2 then why did you buy the expansion?"
We are gonna be in for a spicy set of threads, that's for sure.
I dunno why the designer did the dumb thong thing on Theory (well I do but I don't like it) Just perverts the design. As far as Praxis and Theory looking like children, I dunno, they didn't look like children to me in the game. Game frames them as adults and their heights in regards to the rest of the characters highlight they are older.
Their designs got way too much shit going on though. Very visually noisy. Shame, I conceptually like them. And in game I actually really like Praxis.
Their designs got way too much shit going on though. Very visually noisy. Shame, I conceptually like them. And in game I actually really like Praxis.
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Do I even dare Google this?
Everything attached to this name is going to be full of anime kiddie porn isn't it?
Her and Zeke are basically considered equal but yes.
Holy shit, lolololololol.
I love Xenoblade 2 (235 hours) but this shit is the furthest thing from a female power fantasy ever. Is this like a joke? Lmao, shit's wild.
Here you go. Saito is leaps and bounds better than any other artist that's worked on a Xeno game. Monolith Soft is lucky he had time to work on their game
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Nah, he just began his career as a traditional porn artist and most of his mainstream designs are basically Pyra-like stuff.
Just horny figure bait.
Guess what? hyperbole after hyperbole is what ruin argument about XC2. It is useless talking when the mind is not even on the right place when talking about the game there.
He didn't say saito, he said Saitom.
What am I going to find if I Google that shit. Level with me NOW.
And that looks incredibly generic and unimpressive. I mean I guess it has that in common
And no, that shit is not from an artist better than anyone whonwas ever worked at monolithsoft, because monolithsoft has some of the best environment artists in the world.
Gamers just fucking throw anything they can think of under the bus.
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No I fucking don't.
And I'm guessing by these bullshit responses that refuse to answer the question it means that he in fact, IS a child porn artist, and all the little shitters in this thread knew it the whole damn time and have just been gaslighting.
Every XC2 thread will be this. It's best to just leave it be and focus on what you personally like and don't like.
The game for me was what I expected it to be. Great environments, great battle system, great music, ridiculous story, huge mixed bag of designs. Where the game surprised me is I actually very much liked the cast. The game is at its worse when it's wallowing in it's own melodrama (though poppi slays like 3 scenes) and at its best when the characters are just chillin.
Design wise there is just some shit I personally can't defend. Pyra and Mythra have shitty outfits, Dahlia is a shitty design, ass flaps are dumb, in game jiggle physics are ridiculous, game has a mad fixation with tits. Even though I enjoy Tora as a character the perverted stuff they toss on him is just mad dumb. Especially cause Poppi is grade A adorable innocent. They play the pervert guys fawning over women angle a lot in this game for no real reason.
There are some designs I super love though, Morag, Pandoria, Poppi alpha, Zeke, Dagas, Perceval, Finch, Kassandra and Perun. Even though the design is sexualized I also like Zenobia's (can't be helped here, I like it).
I dunno, just engage people that will discuss with you in reasonable faith. The game has it's detractors and it's lovers, it's just the way this type of game rolls.
???? XC2 i literally the opposite of male masculanity or incel promotion considering how pathetic or trash Rex is for more than half the game.
He is literally carried by the girls not the opposite. There is no fast gratification too on Rex becoming powerful. Hell that is exactly why many complain there as Rex almost never won a fight by himself but needed other to help him till the Pneuma awakening.
It is so far for showing gender imbalance there.
Yeah. It is always hard talking about this game sadly. Both sides tried to one up each other by hyperbole. Like everyone understand the fanservice is more on main point this time vs XB1 or XBX but suddenly throwing 90% design is sexualized, 90% is female, or not counting certain character because he wear a maleish coating only to fill the hate quote for me is just lame and useless to argue with as the mind is never to argue properly but more on forcing other his opinion.
I just love how you're assuming things when on post 949 you've already got exemples. And you're assuming what he draw and drew when there are numerous exemple of his work once he got out of the doujin scene and got professionnal..
Rex is trash for literally the whole game, the entire ending sequence included. Incels can relate.
I just ignore it but that's just me. I'm comfortable with my opinions on the game and so if I'm arguing with someone whom disagrees but is trying to have a discussion I roll with it. If someone is just trying to get a rise out of people I just don't engage.
I dunno, it's not that serious. Especially for a JRPG as successful as this one.
Not defending incel trash, but I thought early game Rex was surprisingly decent. Especially when he interacted with Vandham.
Geez, just jumping in here and glancing at the last couple of pages is almost enough to want to straight up run away from this site and never come back.
I love Xenoblade 2. It's in my all time top 10. The game is phenomenal.
The female character designs and the way the game treats them? Trash, it's a massive stain on what would be an otherwise near perfect game. I cannot believe people are actually in here defending it. It makes me sick.
Female power fantasy? Men treated the same way?
Like c'mon guys, just admit you like the anime tits and don't make these terrible arguments. It's embarrassing.
I love Xenoblade 2. It's in my all time top 10. The game is phenomenal.
The female character designs and the way the game treats them? Trash, it's a massive stain on what would be an otherwise near perfect game. I cannot believe people are actually in here defending it. It makes me sick.
Female power fantasy? Men treated the same way?
Like c'mon guys, just admit you like the anime tits and don't make these terrible arguments. It's embarrassing.
Post 949 The one fucking crap picture is an example? I'm sorry, 'examples'?
The dude only ever drew one fucking picture?
Get out of here, I don't believe this bullshit snarky gaslighting gator attitude for a second. Especially not now that I got a name and I see the reaction too it.
Ban bet.
You tell me if I Google this mother fuckers name 'Saitom' im not going to have a phone screen full of fucking anime kiddie porn, on the bet that you are telling the truth or you are banned.
It's time to put up or shut up on this pedo shit.
I found when Rex wasn't talking to, about and/or interacting with Pyra (especially Pyra) or Mythra he was actually very likeable. Pyra/Rex is such a shit pairing imo. Rex and literally anyone else moved the discussion away from "wah wah Pyra" and that's when the fun and interesting parts of his personality came out.
Thats why replying to these kind of guys is useless when he act so knowledgeable til it is shown he literally being unable to differentiate shounen and seinen lol.
Now u are trolling lol. Incels looks for quick gratification. Rex got big F middle finger for more than half the game. It is literally the big no no for Incels.
Sometimes i wonder if all this huge backlash comes from the bitternest of their older favorites like XC1 and X flop compared to XC2 number here. The rage response toward this game is something else for me.
Maybe about the incel part, but Rex was still horrifically immature and naive for a main character at the end of an 80 hour game. Completely killed the experience for me.
I know nothing about anime/manga so I wouldn't know. But they just copped a 5 day ban for acting obnoxious as hell so there is that anyway.
Some people hate it's sold so well. Sure. I'm also sure that there is just a big chunk of people here that don't fuck with the game and that's fine. I'm not stressing bout it.
Rex is a decent MC through and through. He may not be as bad ass as many other MC or perfect like any LN MC. But he sure had heart and did everything he could to reach Elysium.
Holy shit lmaoooo
Sorry I'm catching up but this thread got pretty good
I love how controversial this game is. Makes reading the threads for it a good laugh.
Nier Automata is also super sexualized (though it doesn't have any creepy loli shit) and isn't anywhere near as controversial.
I'll get around to playing this game eventually.
Nier Automata is also super sexualized (though it doesn't have any creepy loli shit) and isn't anywhere near as controversial.
I'll get around to playing this game eventually.
I thought he grow up though. The final chapter ending is literally him growing up to be more mature to be able to accept others rather than trying to do literally everything by himself.
Hell, he is also forced to see all his insecurities by Klaus there which is something that Rex had put in his back of his mind based on his reactiom of running away from all his friends.
I mean. I hate Persona series since 3 due to its direction but i sure as hell can argue in good faith on why some people like its shift in tone to more dating sims genre and thats not my taste. But for god sakes i dont come to every persona thread screaming hyperboles or making false accusation on Persona being Incel now like what happening here on XC2. Like why???
I've said this before, XB2 has some very real and glaring flaws. (Some of which OP has listed. )
But, the cast and story are so good and endearing, and the game's highs are so high, that I found it to be an overall stellar game flaws and all.
But, the cast and story are so good and endearing, and the game's highs are so high, that I found it to be an overall stellar game flaws and all.
The final chapter is literally his friends *telling* him to grow up, as he clearly hasn't by the time the other characters have to tell him to do so. As evidenced also by his running and screaming when the visions occur.
The only reason he doesn't do the stupid, selfish shit he tries to do at the very end is because his hookshot is too short.
I like when Zeke gets serious. I'm a sucker for that, when the normally goofy character stops messing around. Luffy is the best at it.
I dunno, I just don't take it very seriously tbh. Don't have a better answer than that.
Y'all really about to make me buy this game so I can jump in on this discussion of this game...
Well I mean at the end,
Pyra/Mythra is pretty much telling him that she's gonna kill herself.
The hookshot thing is for the audience to see that he can't hookshot and to set up the Poppi bit.
There's actually stand alone DLC coming out in a few weeks if you want to check out the game for a cheaper price. It's a prequel to the main game.
Y'all really about to make me buy this game so I can jump in on this discussion of this game...
Definitely agree from OP as an observer. I watched gameplay trying to convince myself to pick it up, but holy crap is it cringy. The sexualization is glaring. Combat system looked a bit wonky. I ended up waiting for Octopath Traveler which I'm enjoying immensely.
I can't decide if this thread or the game's sexualization is cringier.
I can't decide if this thread or the game's sexualization is cringier.
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Yeah. But well thats a grown up moment he need to face if u ask me. Sure he may not grow as much as other MC. But he still changes. From a guy who is overconfident into a guy who can put his trust completely now on all his pals.(Pneuma arc.)
Till being able to let go his love too. That is a grown up moment for me there.
Nah i know you lol. No problemo. I just feel this reaction toward XC2 is a new level of hillariousness.
Y'all really about to make me buy this game so I can jump in on this discussion of this game...
Join us lol. Easily my GOTY last year and best Jrpg for me in years.^_^
Yeah this part being controversial is strange for me. How can Rex being called Incel for wanting to save the one he love though?
The story hit me in the right nostalgic spots, I enjoy the battle system, and the anime waifu garbage is just something I ignore in JRPGs. I understand your points, but I liked it. My main complaints about the story would be spoilery.
It wasn't XC1, but it wasn't an empty husk like XCX. It felt like the Tales devs were outsourced to make an XC game.
It wasn't XC1, but it wasn't an empty husk like XCX. It felt like the Tales devs were outsourced to make an XC game.
Thank you to the mods for banning that member that grew increasing hostile, inflammatory, etc even though I think that should've been done way sooner.
To talk about something other than sexualization now, I get the criticism for Rex. In the first half of the game he was pretty unremarkable but it was his attitude and positive attitude that impacted the other party members. When you get to his home town and realize all that money he's been sending home is for other orphans to live a better life than he did, that's a pretty big deal for someone his age. Then the stuff with the graveyard and what not. Not the best main character, but far from the worst.
Yeah, and like I said earlier in the thread, that's what bugs me about the sexualization shaming. Last year Persona 5 and NieR were amazing and super popular but also had their fair share of problems, but only XC2 gets called out for it in EVERY thread.
To talk about something other than sexualization now, I get the criticism for Rex. In the first half of the game he was pretty unremarkable but it was his attitude and positive attitude that impacted the other party members. When you get to his home town and realize all that money he's been sending home is for other orphans to live a better life than he did, that's a pretty big deal for someone his age. Then the stuff with the graveyard and what not. Not the best main character, but far from the worst.
Yeah, and like I said earlier in the thread, that's what bugs me about the sexualization shaming. Last year Persona 5 and NieR were amazing and super popular but also had their fair share of problems, but only XC2 gets called out for it in EVERY thread.
Rex was the heart. He wasn't trash. His silly shorts aside, Rex is the type of main character I enjoy in an RPG, much like Zidane or Alex or Justin. Characters with heart above all else.
He was always decent, even when he makes mistakes along the way. Even his mistakes were filled with good intention in the end, to the point it almost defeats him when he finally gets hit with unexpected harshness.
How the heck did this now all of a sudden turn into talk about Incels? This is hardcore reaching. Even for this forum.
Suffice it to say, I heavily disagree with you on your assessment of Rex.
Agreed. Rex is the type of protagonist I like in an rpg. Same reason I was drawn to Tressa in Octopath and why FF9, Lunar, and Grandia are my favorite classic jrpgs.
We really are reaching here. Much like many discussions on this forum, everything gets diluted by just throwing certain terms around fast and loose without actual perspective. Many of these posts feel like they are parody at this point.
Come now, most well-adjusted adults wouldn't just instantly accept what Rex had to accept in that situation. That was the final hurdle he needed to cross to self-actualization.
Rex's growth is juxtaposed with how he is earlier in the game. Pyra clearly has stuff she's keeping bottled up, but Rex doesn't want to pry and shuts down other people who ask her about it. He thinks he's in a relationship, but keeps things at a superficial level by not opening up to each other.
Eventually he's forced to reevaluate himself through failure and learn what's troubling Pyra, and by accepting each other they are able to grow into more complete and adjusted people.
This is just straight up not true, both those games get called out heavily.
In Nier people called out 2B's design a lot, and there was a good bit of discussion around the whole "I just like girls" quote.
Persona 5 is usually called out when it came to Ann and a whole lotta other shit.
Incels? What? Rex wasnt the best main character ever but he was far from the worst and as others have stated had plenty of heart for a JRPG protag. I enjoyed my time with the game and theres only 2-3 designs I absolutely hated.
From calling Xenoblade 2 a female power fantasy to referring to Rex as an incel. Wow, we're really running the whole gamut over here, aren't we?
We really got off track. Some people just need the love and guidance of Vandham, who is criminally underrated IMO.
Read the entire thread from start to finish. Should I be laughing or be depressed at what I've been reading?
I don't even know what to say here, (aside from being somewhat surprised that Yasumi didn't like XB2 and that Fire Emblem somehow hasn't been mentioned) this thread has just been a shitshow. Then again it's a thread about XB2 so this is par for the course.
I don't even know what to say here, (aside from being somewhat surprised that Yasumi didn't like XB2 and that Fire Emblem somehow hasn't been mentioned) this thread has just been a shitshow. Then again it's a thread about XB2 so this is par for the course.
I didn't play this one, only the first, but it was one of the worst modern JRPGs I've played, most because of the combat. I don't understand how can people enjoy these systems... maybe they love MMOs? It was mostly how it felt to me, like I was playing a MMO.
Not to mention the ridiculous ammount of customization, that seems even bigger on the sequels...
Not to mention the ridiculous ammount of customization, that seems even bigger on the sequels...