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Narpas Sword0

Member
Oct 28, 2017
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These details are great, thanks so much.

I still want to know about modding before biting the bullet. I don't really have a great place for it (I already have a full size single player unit) butI kind of want it anyway.
 

mikehaggar

Developer at Pixel Arc Studios
Verified
Oct 26, 2017
1,380
Harrisburg, Pa
Interesting. I would have bet money that all of the hardware was in the pre-assembled control deck. I'm surprised the actual computing hardware is mounted directly to the monitor. Now I'm curious what's in there lol. Thanks for answering my question!
 
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Darknight

Darknight

"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
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Oct 25, 2017
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Interesting. I would have bet money that all of the hardware was in the pre-assembled control deck. I'm surprised the actual computing hardware is mounted directly to the monitor. Now I'm curious what's in there lol. Thanks for answering my question!

Ya, I would have guessed the same as you too.
 

GreenMonkey

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,865
Michigan
Saw someone point out elsewhere that the monitor for this thing is 1280x1024 (you can google the model name 170ETN01 from the pictures posted in this thread) which is a 5:4 monitor. So the aspect ratio is a little off here and you can kinda tell in the video reviews a bit.

Guess it makes sense - 4:3 LCDs are kinda uncommon.
 

Sheng Long

Moderator
Oct 27, 2017
7,599
Earth
Saw someone point out elsewhere that the monitor for this thing is 1280x1024 (you can google the model name 170ETN01 from the pictures posted in this thread) which is a 5:4 monitor. So the aspect ratio is a little off here and you can kinda tell in the video reviews a bit.

Guess it makes sense - 4:3 LCDs are kinda uncommon.

Yeah, I have two Sony 5:4 monitors because...that's all I could ever find lol.
 

shark97

Banned
Nov 7, 2017
5,327
Saw someone point out elsewhere that the monitor for this thing is 1280x1024 (you can google the model name 170ETN01 from the pictures posted in this thread) which is a 5:4 monitor. So the aspect ratio is a little off here and you can kinda tell in the video reviews a bit.

Guess it makes sense - 4:3 LCDs are kinda uncommon.


250 nits, 1000:1 contrast (supposedly according to that data sheet). Not the worst numbers ever.

Any chance it's IPS?
 

thuway

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,168
Man I would do crazy things to transplant an OLED screen into that little box. The Galaxy Tab S3 looks so good playing Retroarch.
 

Argyle

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,055
250 nits, 1000:1 contrast (supposedly according to that data sheet). Not the worst numbers ever.

Any chance it's IPS?

Sure didn't look IPS when I checked it out at Evo.

You can see the colors invert if you're off axis but for the most part the monitor is totally acceptable lMHO.
 

alr1ght

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,114
Saw someone point out elsewhere that the monitor for this thing is 1280x1024 (you can google the model name 170ETN01 from the pictures posted in this thread) which is a 5:4 monitor. So the aspect ratio is a little off here and you can kinda tell in the video reviews a bit.

Guess it makes sense - 4:3 LCDs are kinda uncommon.
Yuck.

I'm super sensitive to aspect ratios and this would drive me nuts.
 

Sheng Long

Moderator
Oct 27, 2017
7,599
Earth
Sure didn't look IPS when I checked it out at Evo.

You can see the colors invert if you're off axis but for the most part the monitor is totally acceptable lMHO.

Definitely wasn't IPS. For the most part, the monitor was pretty good. I couldn't ever forsee myself trying to look at it from the extreme side much at all anyways.
 

Sheng Long

Moderator
Oct 27, 2017
7,599
Earth
Isn't 4:3 to 5:4 a very small difference though? Seems like 75 vs 80% width/height. Am i doing that wrong?

It is, but you could still see it on a circle or something like that. To be fair, it doesn't bother me (the difference to me is minimum when playing something like SF2). I would be bothered more if it was 16:9 and stretched. Then I would be upset.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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So Argos here in the UK have now listed a couple of cabinets for sale at £450 each. Both cabinets are different to what is being sold in the US. £450 does include 20% VAT but it's still quite a mark up on the $299 in the US. I'm really not quite sure how they will do at that price point

The first cabinet has SF2, Ghosts N Goblins, Final Fight and Strider - http://www.argos.co.uk/product/8625872

The second cabinet interestingly is Space Invaders on its own - http://www.argos.co.uk/product/8625906

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I would have jumped in for that Capcom bundle if released stateside. No offense to everyone, I love Street Fighter, but I don't need an arcade game with 3 different copies.
 

mikehaggar

Developer at Pixel Arc Studios
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Oct 26, 2017
1,380
Harrisburg, Pa
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I would have jumped in for that Capcom bundle if released stateside. No offense to everyone, I love Street Fighter, but I don't need an arcade game with 3 different copies.

You know... I'm *really* wondering whether they just have the wrong pics on that listing for the Street Fighter cabinet... the last pic is of the Champion Edition cab and no where in the product description does it list what games are included. I'd say it's likely that they are mistakenly using old pics...
 

Syncro

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Oct 27, 2017
253
You know... I'm *really* wondering whether they just have the wrong pics on that listing for the Street Fighter cabinet... the last pic is of the Champion Edition cab and no where in the product description does it list what games are included. I'd say it's likely that they are mistakenly using old pics...

Possibly wrong pics *but* there is a Q & A section on the listing of that cab and the Argos staff member states that it has SF2, Final Fight, Strider and G'NG. They could always be wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if different territories do have different cabinets. There is a Space Invaders one listed after all when there has been no mention of it for the US.
 

mikehaggar

Developer at Pixel Arc Studios
Verified
Oct 26, 2017
1,380
Harrisburg, Pa
Possibly wrong pics *but* there is a Q & A section on the listing of that cab and the Argos staff member states that it has SF2, Final Fight, Strider and G'NG. They could always be wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if different territories do have different cabinets. There is a Space Invaders one listed after all when there has been no mention of it for the US.

Certainly a possibility. I asked them on Twitter, so hopefully I get a response...
 

Kyari

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Oct 25, 2017
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I would love to jump on one of these, but those UK prices are fucking ridiculous.
 

TrojanAg

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Oct 25, 2017
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Won't stop me from walking into a store and asking anyway. You never know, it might work.
 

shark97

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Nov 7, 2017
5,327
So if it's just a Pi inside, hacks will be a absolute doddle right?

The only thing I'm worried about is the interface between the joystick and pi....because for example getting an Xbox controller to work on my pi isn't easy, and infact does not work correctly (select doesn't work etc)
 

Mdsfx

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
357
Interesting. So now it's just a matter of how to hack this or if it's possible to connect a Pi3 to this monitor.
 

alr1ght

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,114
So if it's just a Pi inside, hacks will be a absolute doddle right?

The only thing I'm worried about is the interface between the joystick and pi....because for example getting an Xbox controller to work on my pi isn't easy, and infact does not work correctly (select doesn't work etc)
It's not a raspberry pi. I'm sure it won't be all that difficult for someone to come up with adapter to hook it up to the monitor/controls, though.
 
Nov 27, 2017
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So if it's just a Pi inside, hacks will be a absolute doddle right?

The only thing I'm worried about is the interface between the joystick and pi....because for example getting an Xbox controller to work on my pi isn't easy, and infact does not work correctly (select doesn't work etc)

It's not a raspberry pi. I'm sure it won't be all that difficult for someone to come up with adapter to hook it up to the monitor/controls, though.

Alr1ght is right, she incorrectly said it was a pi. I've looked at it personally from our own review model and the box and board are much much larger than the size of a real raspberry pi. It might be a variant I'm not aware of it but it looks like a custom PCB that they designed in house. I believe that if someone wanted to mod the system it wouldn't be incredibly hard. There is plenty of room in the bottom and behind the LCD screen.

In terms of modding the screen you have around 10 inches of space behind the front plastic screen panel. You'll likely be able to fit some real CRT monitors in the unit but it would be a tight fit.
 

SecretCharacter

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
1,384
Colorado Springs, CO
That is not a Pi or a variant. It looks like an in-house developed board.

After looking at the control panel, I can tell that these are all parts manufactured for this device. I've never seen those sticks or buttons before, but they're clearly Japanese style inspired. No cherry switches here.

I'm kind of torn now that I see what's inside and what looks possible in this thing. For the consumer that doesn't want to look for a cabinet and learn the ins and outs of arcade hardware, this might be a cool thing. For an arcade enthusiast, this is definitely not a product aimed at us.
In terms of modding the screen you have around 10 inches of space behind the front plastic screen panel. You'll likely be able to fit some real CRT monitors in the unit but it would be a tight fit.

I would not, under any circumstances, put a CRT in this machine. Wood looks thin and no mounting rails. The cabinet would buckle under the weight of the CRT instantly.
 

Teh_Lurv

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Oct 25, 2017
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That is not a Pi or a variant. It looks like an in-house developed board.

After looking at the control panel, I can tell that these are all parts manufactured for this device. I've never seen those sticks or buttons before, but they're clearly Japanese style inspired. No cherry switches here.

I dunno, looking at the video I think it shouldn't be too much of a hassle to replace those buttons with proper screw-on buttons. The joysticks look like some generic version of a Crown or Seimitsu stick.
 

Mdsfx

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
357
I dunno, looking at the video I think it shouldn't be too much of a hassle to replace those buttons with proper screw-on buttons. The joysticks look like some generic version of a Crown or Seimitsu stick.
Those joysticks are some strange hybrid between Japanese looking hardware and wood-mounted American parts. If you want a sanwa joystick to sit at the correct height in this control panel, you would need to remove material from the panel thickness where the joystick plate would mount.
 

Sheng Long

Moderator
Oct 27, 2017
7,599
Earth
Those joysticks are some strange hybrid between Japanese looking hardware and wood-mounted American parts. If you want a sanwa joystick to sit at the correct height in this control panel, you would need to remove material from the panel thickness where the joystick plate would mount.

Or put an extension on the shaft.
 

Mdsfx

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
357
Yep my first goal when i get it is getting a pi hooked up to that screen. Might be interesting...