What's the point? "I want to come off as a faux intellectual and make insidious arguments about why transphobia and bigotry are not actually bad guys, please don't ban me" ?
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Cyberpunk 2077 Twitter account makes transphobic joke (READ OP)
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What do you want to debate about? If you want to debate about whether one should still buy the game or support the company, go ahead.
If you want to debate what kind of responses Cdprojekt should give or whether they should have responded by now, go ahead.
Even people who are saying that maybe the person didn't mean it are not banned here.
I get what you mean, but it was probably more about internalized self-loathing than the game calling him one.
Poor choice of words?
Can we get past this fallacy
Its a known quote that was used verbatim. Word for word
At best he could claim ignorance and even thats a shaky excuse. If I did something ignorant I would at least quickly apologize
The thread is literally, explicitly, about a transphobic tweet. What's your point?
If you don't want 'witch hunts' then maybe you should apologize for offending a marginalized person?
I'm not a saint. I've said offensive things. No one's attacking my livelihood though because genuinely I don't want to make people upset, especially those with far less privilege than I. So when I say something that makes them sad or mad and I genuinely didn't want to do that I apologize and correct that behavior.
Punching down isn't good comedy anyway.
And it's really fucking offensive to describe this as a 'witch hunt' like trans people are roving around finding ways to be offended by things. Life for them is the opposite. People find ways to purposefully misgender them. People kill them for who they are.
Stop acting so shocked that you get banned for being transphobic here. That should have been crystal clear when you read the ToS for this forum. You know, when you agreed to it.
They could have given an option for Geralt to tell him he's not a freak or something similar.
The persecution complex is strong with this one.
If you're trying to have a "healthy debate" about the validity of laughing at the expense of minority groups, maybe ERA isn't the place for you?
Not really, just the fact some people where genuinely not familiarized with the offensive meme in question, and those were treated as downplaying it, when in fact they were just asking about it, not standing by it.
I for one was not aware of it, and before understanding the meaning behind it, wasn't immediately aware of the significance of the tweet. I don't think that makes me transphobic, does it?
Perhaps you should have read Era's TOS. It's got 'no transphobic stuff' baked into it.
People really, really need to stop using this phrase to defend the marginalization of minorities. It's extremely inappropriate considering the historical context.
I didn't know about the meme as well but I didn't immediately post to say that people should not get upset. I waited, read and tried to understand what the meme is before responding.
The OP also explains the meme in big red letters so.....
User Banned (1 Week) - Downplaying concerns of LGBT people
not everyone is into LGBT issues, most people don't give a shit. I assume that a community manager heard/saw the phrase out of context and just used it. Since they are out for a western market they need to hire some LGBT person who digs the issue at hand and let him/her/them(?) moderate all their communications in English.
I mean, they are posting in a thread that specifically says "(READ OP)" in the title, and the OP says:
Even in a thread that doesn't say to read the OP I'm pretty sure you can get banned for not doing so.
Could you quickly elaborate your point? What do want to discuss here? If the tweet was transphobic? That's literally the only thing that isn't up for debate here.
I'm not sure whether I would give them the benefit of the doubt since it's a very specific sentence to write. They could have also apologise by now and say they will put out an official statement shortly but they haven't.
They might wanna do some research to find out who was historically getting fucking burned at the stake and by whom.
So, aside from this really poor "joke" that account has actually been fun. I check the subreddit for the game, much less since the e3 info, every so often and see fun things tweeted by the account. It's a really bad joke, but I'm not going to take heavy offense to it and it in no way affects my excitement for the game.
Along with a thread about Romani people. Moths into the flameat how many bans are we now?
I think we could just sticky this thread and put a Zwarte Piet thread next to it
I was getting at the lack of an element of fear or hatred. It's discriminating and I don't feel like defending that shit.
There are definitely groups better suited to be made fun of and that should be known in Poland.
It. Doesn't. Matter.
The social media manager they hired was literally hired to speak for them. He spoke for them, and he spoke in an offensive, transphobic way. What he said literally reflects on the company.
"not everyone is into LGBT issues, most people don't give a shit"
This right here is the fucking problem. More people should be. "I don't care, because it's not like i have to put up with persecution and bigotry in my day to day life."
Question to the people downplaying this:
How much longer are you going to give CDPR the benefit of the doubt? They already have an established history of alt right memes, and they have a poor history of misogyny and poor racial representation (specifically the sex cards, the taxi driver on the last trailer, and the lack of PoC on their last game)...So what exactly is the straw that will break the camel's back?
How much longer are you going to give CDPR the benefit of the doubt? They already have an established history of alt right memes, and they have a poor history of misogyny and poor racial representation (specifically the sex cards, the taxi driver on the last trailer, and the lack of PoC on their last game)...So what exactly is the straw that will break the camel's back?
In Poland I saw a dude stop his car and roll down his window when he saw a black person and asked him to rap for him. My polish colleagues say alot of racist things all the time. Its pretty far behind western countries in terms of equality. (Im Swedish).
''CREATORS SHOULD FREE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THEIR ART!!'' unless it's when the creator wants to add more representation to their product then it's just ''SJWS TRYING TO SHOVE THEIR STUFF IN EVERYTHING!!''. These people are so obvious.
Also, what the fuck is wrong with you CDPR, not even a apology?!
I've decided that I like the cut of your jib, Phantom Thief.
Their is preferred for non-binary people. Trans, gay, bisexual, and lesbian prefer him or her.
I don't think CDProjekt need to hire anyone new; their PR manager just needs to be more cognizant and careful about how their words affect people. I've used hurtful language that I didn't realize the implications of before, and I could have saved myself and others a lot of grief if I had just thought about what I was saying. And when you fuck up without ill-intent, you need to be clear and open about it and show you're willing to try to be better.
The PR manager has a large audience that includes many trans people. And they have a responsibility to show basic respect to those folks' identity.
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Of all the staff who should be aware and 'give a shit' about what is directly offensive to minorities, a community manager running your global twitter account is one of them. You don't need to be LGBT or even western to realise making jokes about people's identity is offensive, you just need to have a shred of empathy and professionalism.
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Yep. I'm from the home of the Pendle Witches. Grim stuff. People using it to describe white men not being able to say bigoted things is so fucking outrageous it makes me squirm.
I know you're banned, but this isn't rocket science. If your defense is I didn't know then the appropriate response is to simply note that mentally, go understand and educate yourself, and not ask somebody else to do it for you.
Lol at people saying he just didn't know the meaning of the sentence.
Come on it's a popular term used almost exclusively by the alt-right trolls on the internet to make fun of LGBT people.
I'm sure the guy they hired to be social media savvy and monitor twitter knows what it means. Also the excuse that he's polish so he didn't understand English assumes that CDProject Red is incompetent at hiring someone who understands English in running their English twitter account.
This and the sikh taxi driver threads shows how many hoops CDPR fans are willing to jump through to justify their devs. I remember in the Sikh thread people were saying it's literally okay to be racist because the source material board game was also racist.
Come on it's a popular term used almost exclusively by the alt-right trolls on the internet to make fun of LGBT people.
I'm sure the guy they hired to be social media savvy and monitor twitter knows what it means. Also the excuse that he's polish so he didn't understand English assumes that CDProject Red is incompetent at hiring someone who understands English in running their English twitter account.
This and the sikh taxi driver threads shows how many hoops CDPR fans are willing to jump through to justify their devs. I remember in the Sikh thread people were saying it's literally okay to be racist because the source material board game was also racist.
Something apart from their community management on Twitter making stupid mistakes.
CDPR was like the last bastion for this forum not long ago. How many of you in here raising hell will even accept an apology if offered?
Transphobes can go fuck themselves, so take care and never return <3
I don't get why in this day and age people think it's ok to type/say things that are known to be offensive to any group of people. There will always be repercussions with statements like this. In this thread alone there are users who are so caught up in their own beliefs that they are knowingly account suiciding. Do yourselves a favor and keep your unprogressive thoughts to yourself. It's not worth mentioning that you dont get it. You dont have to get it.
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