Sure, it might only be one person running their twitter account, but it's not a random dev buried in the innards of the organisation, it's someone that they specifically employ and trust to represent them publicly. I wonder how they'll respond as a company.
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Cyberpunk 2077 Twitter account makes transphobic joke (READ OP)
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The original reply was just a random fan who got excited about seeing a random dev photo and asked for more. He didn't mean anything by it and got freaked out by all the attention, thinking that he might have said something offensive.
Yes, here I am. Nice to meet you. Thank you for assuming such people don't exist.
Now ontopic; although I wasn't aware of this meme, I highly doubt the PR person wasn't as well. The chances of the person phrasing that reaction in the way it did without knowing seem very small.
Honestly I had no idea before now that "did you just assume (someone's) gender" was generally meant to be a sarcastic meme (assuming I've understood the OP correctly). I personally have encountered a handful of right-leaning people who've used it facetiously, but I've been around all sorts of people using it that I know are generally progressive minded regarding LGBTQI people, and I thought they were genuinely trying to discourage misgendering. Bear in mind, I spend little time on the internet, except for ResetEra lol.
That said, the example in the OP is obviously sarcastic and sets malignant precedent.
That said, the example in the OP is obviously sarcastic and sets malignant precedent.
Oh god, this is where this is going.
Definately time I'll get myself a cup of coffee.
Yet they put that idiot in charge of Social Media. That company, not unlike most other companies of hundreds of individuals, has problems. No need to defend them blindly.
But like what does that even mean? LolOh god, this is where this is going.
And that's why I'm holding the company responsible at the very least until they provide proper response, apology, and action.
They had enough money to hire a competent PR person who would not have made this mistake. That's on CDPR's management as well.
Funny you mentioned it, I'm not visiting the US for vacation while the Orange One is in office.
Have you ever put your trust in someone and been disappointed in the result? Human beings make mistakes and giant organizations are just a bunch of human beings
I think that's more likely the case, too, which makes the Cyberpunk twitter's response even more of a head-scratcher. Like their social media person was just dying for the opportunity to use that joke.
Not a good look for CDPR. Will be telling if they take action or just delete the tweet and pretend like nothing happened.
Oh yeah, let's start the "I always knew there was something wrong with x" bandwagon, like in any controversy.
Hmmmm CDPR twitter has had some eyebrow raising tweets the last few months.
Still buying the game if its good.
The twitter account could just be run by an ass hole(s) and that doesn't necessarily impune all the creatives working on the project.
This is also a fair point. Management seems asleep at the wheel.
I imagine they are going to course correct after this blows up. 'Mericans are still in bed for one.
Still buying the game if its good.
The twitter account could just be run by an ass hole(s) and that doesn't necessarily impune all the creatives working on the project.
This is also a fair point. Management seems asleep at the wheel.
I imagine they are going to course correct after this blows up. 'Mericans are still in bed for one.
It's not only one person who runs their twitter account. Several people for different languages and at least two main PR people for global (English) tweets and replies. One German and an American IIRC.
Yeah but they didn't put them in charge because they knew they would make a stupid joke/meme tweet in the future, did they?
True, but those mistakes have consequences, including losing consumer confidence. Plenty of relatively naive ad campaigns that costed millions have done that, let alone deliberate use of shitty memes.
The point of a PR person is to talk to press not run a social media account. You mean a community manager.
Now I want to see if they'll do some PR statement about it and if people will finally see the company as what they are: not that perfect company that people paint since TW3 (which I love and it's in my top 10 btw)
Honestly, and sadly, I just cant say I am surprised that they Said something like this.
For shame.
For shame.
Which is why they should make issuing an apology a priority, as the soon as that happens 95% of people posting here will consider that acceptable, and we'll move on
Of course there will be some people who hold it against them forever, but that can't be helped
Human beings are normally held accountable when they make mistakes, if that's what we're calling transphobia now.
The post you quoted is a bit of a hyperbole but here you go:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/vg...pro-gamergate-tweet-update-gog-apology.56374/
When Cyberpunk releases none will remember some tweets years ago
This is so sad, as other people have pointed out, cyberpunk as a genre should be trans-inclusive. To not see this reflected in the games PR, is so dissapointing.
Agreed, but consequences should be somewhat equal in measure to the offense. A shitty tweet doesn't equal an official company position IMO, so I'm willing to wait and see if they try to make it right.
Probably referring to the less-than-stellar feedback left by former employees on glassdoor.com. Whether the things that are written there are true is another argument though.
I guess I have misunderstood your point. I understand that the use of preferred infers a choice, which can feed into transphobic rhetoric, though I didn't think it about from that angle. I was thinking more along hte lines of preferred as in my birth gender was this, but I prefer to be called this. Which as you pointed out misses the point as it is not a choice. The point I was attempting to make was that divorced from that inference, it is a method of introducing oneself as Trans without having to more-or-less justify their identity to new people. Still, I should have thought about that bit before posting. Thank you for helping me to catch on.
I would call employing someone who makes transphobic tweets a mistake. What would you call it?
So professional community managers make mistakes, even if it's blatant transphobia, and even if they did make mistakes, no one will remember it. I hope that's not their official company line on it.
It's true that a social media storm can blow over as easily as it starts, but that doesn't mean that people can't be extremely disappointed in a large publisher, right now.
I mixed up the terms but I don't really see a difference when it comes to them being representatives of the company. They serve the basic function of communicating with external parties, in a PR person's case, with the press, and a community manager, with the fans and consumers.
That is hands down one of the most offensive tweets I have ever seen.
Cancelling my pre-order as I speak.
Cancelling my pre-order as I speak.
Eugh. I had forgotten all about that guy. But you're right - and it probably shouldn't surprise us that the deepest thought people who are dumb enough to be bigots have when looking at the cyberpunk genre is "This looks cool".
"Hyperbole"? Really?
Over the past ~month CDPR and GOG have made many "mistakes", the ones I remember are:
1) Pandering to GG with the thread you linked. They apologized for it.
2) Using Nazi terminology. They apologized for it...again.
3) Making a transphobic joke, and we're waiting for their apology...again.
Seriously, they're one R*pefugee joke away from an alt right bingo, but call it hyperbole if you want.
Will not be one bit surprised if that was the case at CDPR.
I am assuming the Cyberpunk pic will be a dusty skeleton
Also, hope people are not jumping on the devs for something their idiot intern who runs the twitter said
This isn't Daniel Vavra being proudly and arrogantly racist
You know, I could be a Nazi but I also know how to read a room
I would never make such comments on a public platform
What is wrong with these guys?
Glassdoor reviews, commentary from leadership about union and crunch, salary, conditions of work..
But I was mostly talking about people idolizing this company in an absurd level in the internet. Pretty much like Naughty Dog but much worse.
This definitely makes me believe that CD don't know a single thing about cyberpunk
LGBT rights in Poland are basically non-existent, but still I was hoping that at least them wouldn't be as the bigoted majority. After that shitty GG tweet it's probably clear how this company feels about minorities.
LGBT rights in Poland are basically non-existent, but still I was hoping that at least them wouldn't be as the bigoted majority. After that shitty GG tweet it's probably clear how this company feels about minorities.
Yeah, fair enough. I think it's both OK to find the tweet offensive right now, and it's ok to wait and see what the company line is and if they either apologise, ignore it or double down on it. If they step up and make things good, then fine, that's what I'd expect any professional company to do.
Guess I will have to pirate Cyberpunk then
I work for MetLife and holy hell is our management anal about portraying a LGBT friendly environment (infact my manager is a transwoman herself) regardless of what individuals think. Yet what is wrong with these game companies that they copy that typical corporate style of keeping everyone happy? At least on the public level
I work for MetLife and holy hell is our management anal about portraying a LGBT friendly environment (infact my manager is a transwoman herself) regardless of what individuals think. Yet what is wrong with these game companies that they copy that typical corporate style of keeping everyone happy? At least on the public level
Really fucking lame. There needs to be some accountability at CDPR over this sort of thing. If I was working there, I'd be pretty upset that this was our outward face. It's, bare minimum, demoralising. Bare, bare, barest minimum.
As a trans person myself, this makes me sad. It's hard to go a day without seeing some bullshit and here we are at 7 AM EST already.
For my friends that have transitioned they've generally gone with the binary pronouns whereas my Q's are mostly they/them as their pronouns not sure if its a mostly Chicago thing or not; we definitely have a vibrant community here. I have to admit that I had never heard/seen that meme so learned something new.
The Tweet definitely appears to be in very poor taste given the background context. Painting with a super-wide generalized brush, this is why I despise Twitter, sure, not tangentially related but still...
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