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Which Game will be the Surprise Critical Disappointment this Fall?
- Thread starter mindsale
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Fallout 76.
I'm guessing that it'll be a game that critics and vocal fans will disagree about. It'll actually be quite divisive in the consumer pool, but there will be an adamant group that defends the game very vocally, and the surprise will really arise from the GamerGate-style/"critics are corrupt/wrong/not gamers" rhetoric that emerges from the situation and not actually over discussion about the qualities and deficiencies in the game.
I'm guessing that it'll be a game that critics and vocal fans will disagree about. It'll actually be quite divisive in the consumer pool, but there will be an adamant group that defends the game very vocally, and the surprise will really arise from the GamerGate-style/"critics are corrupt/wrong/not gamers" rhetoric that emerges from the situation and not actually over discussion about the qualities and deficiencies in the game.
This. The pre-release hype for the game makes it practically untouchable and as a Sony exclusive, you know for damn sure it's not going to be an Aliens: Colonial Marines style bomb where all the pre-release footage wasn't actually in the game.
Predicting an easy 90+ Metacritic, it'll actually be quite a surprise if it doesn't hit 90.
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Maybe five games a year get a 90+ review aggregate. I don't see Spidey being one (although Definitely 80+).
I think this cuts both ways.
There's a strong contingent that has had it out for Bethesda before 76 was even announced.
This crowd has already made up their collective minds that anything Bethesda Studios is crap, so it doesn't even matter what they release. They've drawn the line in the sand so long ago their minds won't change even if 76 turns out well.
I just can't see Fallout 76 being good. The gameplay in all bethesda titles have been barely passable at best, but usually terrible. The shooting in Fallout never felt good or sharp. Ever. ANd now to strip out the RPG NPC types (maybe there is some sort of story?), and make it more combat focused on top of an online architecture, I just cant fathom how that will be compelling.
I don't think anyone can reasonably expect Fallout 76 to get better reviews at launch than TESO did, so it won't be a surprise disappointment when it gets mediocre scores at all. Its exactly the type of game that 'evolving' reviews were made for. It won't even be the 'real' FO76 for 6 months to a year.
In sales: Tomb Raider.
In gameplay: Pokemon Let's Go.
In servers: Fallout 76.
Also this, ESO 2018 is a really good game.
In gameplay: Pokemon Let's Go.
In servers: Fallout 76.
Also this, ESO 2018 is a really good game.
Going from 1 to X is like going from a 9 score to an 8, then going from X to 2 is going from 8 to 6.5. That poster is not necessarily wrong.
Doesn't sound like an objective or even universally shared opinion, at least from what I saw around the net. If anything I see that different people will have their own fave, depending by what they prioritize.
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Metascores:
Xenoblade - 92
Xenoblade X - 84
Xenoblade 2 - 83
Critical consensus.
Nah. The guy putting "going from X to 2" is like 8 to 6.5 is really wrong when the difference between one and other is one point
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Pokemon. It's horrifically casualized and I think this will be bad for veterans, and potentially newcomers as well.
And I think that X2 is better than both of those but that wasn't the point.
Shadow of the Tomb Raider for sure. It's a by the numbers cinematic action game among heavy hitters that do everything better.
It would be more of a surprise if LGPE got glowing reviews across the board. I'm expecting it to be mixed with a slant toward negativity. User reviews/impressions will be harsher (as they usually are).
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Totally. There's such an insanely low barrier to entry to the games as it is, you don't need a segue from Go to Let's Go to core.
It's too obvious of a "baby's first Pokemon RPG" when really RBY were perfect for even kids to get into as their first RPG. I first played the games when they came out when I was like 9 IIRC and had no trouble at all really getting into the mechanics. They're robbing people of so much by cutting out wild battles and just making them catching mini-games. Plus random encounters are kind of an RPG tradition if I'm honest. Some might prefer it being gone but I don't know.
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Does a slant toward negativity mean criticism? That's a shortcoming of the game, not a lack of optimism of the reviewer.
I voted Fallout 76.
This game does nothing to me and I'm a fan of the series. Seems like a cheap attempt at making some quick money.
Next would be Let's Go Pokemon, I feel like this one is going to be legit bashed once critics find out it's Pokemon Go for $70+
This game does nothing to me and I'm a fan of the series. Seems like a cheap attempt at making some quick money.
Next would be Let's Go Pokemon, I feel like this one is going to be legit bashed once critics find out it's Pokemon Go for $70+
I think on-field encounters were the next logical step for the series, but many imagined it under the context of a game with to-scale environments and the battle system intact.
What I mean is that there will be more negative reviews coming from outlets than positive, but it won't overtake the entire narrative of the game's reviews. This is a conservative prediction admittedly, but the draw of Kanto has always been a huge draw among lapsed fans, and I have trouble imagining a GF-produced Pokemon getting outright trashed everywhere.
I'd be surprised at this point if spiderman underwhelmed. Game looks great and previews for it have been quite good.
I don't think pokemon or 76 would "surprise" anyone at this point if they turn out mediocre.
Nah, xenoblade 2 is the better of the three in the series, and I'm hopeful that continues onto the expansion.
I don't think pokemon or 76 would "surprise" anyone at this point if they turn out mediocre.
Nah, xenoblade 2 is the better of the three in the series, and I'm hopeful that continues onto the expansion.
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Glad you like it, but there are big drop offs in review aggregates between releases.
Pokemon Lets Go probably
I think reviewers will bash the lack of other gen pokemon and the lack of extra content wich there is no excuse for anymore on a console they (gamefreak) cant say hardware limitations this time again.
It also looks like a one on one remake without a scale remake cuz kanto is ages old and needs improved scale.
I think reviewers will bash the lack of other gen pokemon and the lack of extra content wich there is no excuse for anymore on a console they (gamefreak) cant say hardware limitations this time again.
It also looks like a one on one remake without a scale remake cuz kanto is ages old and needs improved scale.
May I suggest something? Stop giving a crap about review aggregates and treating them as if they are a measure of a games quality. Thank you.
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You could actually read the review, and form your own judgement about the things the reviewer has praised or condemned.
Since we're seeing critical consensus, a MC of 84 and 83 respectively are hardly "shite".
But I'm not really a fan of hyperbolic comments when it comes to criticism, they don't really bring the discussion anywhere.
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For sure, there's plenty of wriggle room for subjectivity in your personal media consumption. But a critical consensus is the closest objective measure for perceived quality of a title and the easiest way to see if a title falters in its execution.
But people are already aware of the lack of other pokemon and content, etc. If you kind of expect it to not be so great then that's not exactly a surprise fail. And by the looks of it, many people aren't too happy about the game already.
Although a very unpopular opinion, I can see a chance that Spiderman's combat may be lackluster though every other aspect of the game will almost definitely deliver.
To be fair surprise fail is a little difficult to approach considering we'd have to predict the "surprise"
Of that list I'd say Spiderman if your expectations are not properly set. Insomniac games is great but I'm thinking Spiderman will score in the low 80s which may be surprising to some ppl. I'm sure the game will still be fun. Sunset Overdrive is at 81 on metacritic and it's a lot of fun. Those expecting 90+ may be in for a rude awakening.
I doubt Pokemon will score well, but that shouldn't be surprising
I doubt Pokemon will score well, but that shouldn't be surprising
Spider-Man will be a disappointment to people expecting a 90+ metascore. It'll be mid 80s, and people will still really enjoy it.
Fallout 76 will review well in some circles and really poorly in others, resulting in a low 80s metascore.
Pokemon Let's Go... let's just say I think a 70s score is not out of the question.
Red Dead Redemption 2 will "only" get 93-95. People will weep. For some reason.
Fallout 76 will review well in some circles and really poorly in others, resulting in a low 80s metascore.
Pokemon Let's Go... let's just say I think a 70s score is not out of the question.
Red Dead Redemption 2 will "only" get 93-95. People will weep. For some reason.
Spider-Man for sure.
Forget review scores. People are going to be disappointed by Spider-Man whether or not it gets good reviews, because it won't live up to their nostalgia for Spider-Man 2.
Forget review scores. People are going to be disappointed by Spider-Man whether or not it gets good reviews, because it won't live up to their nostalgia for Spider-Man 2.