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Ebullientprism

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,529
:/

I am really hoping that isn't being done because Hitman 2 is light on content.
 

A Path Finder

Developer at ioi
Verified
Oct 27, 2017
360
So, whatever you own from Season 1 will be updated to work with the new mechanics when you get Hitman 2. If you only have the Paris episode, that should be updated.
 

ASaiyan

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,228
That's pretty cool. I just wish they'd let you buy all the Season 1 episodes separately again (instead of having to get the Complete edition).
 

Foffy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,389
:/

I am really hoping that isn't being done because Hitman 2 is light on content.

I doubt it. HITMAN seemed to be designed with a "modular" approach in mind, and IO once stated they wanted to get games out at a faster rate, so HITMAN was probably designed early on as a "platform" and less as a standalone game.

Approaches like these only confirm that they didn't scrap that approach despite the change in content flow for the follow up.
 

ZeroX

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
21,266
Speed Force
:/

I am really hoping that isn't being done because Hitman 2 is light on content.
They've confirmed six levels, which is on par with Hitman 1 minus the tutorial missions.

I don't really see why it would be much to worry about. They've been actively updating Hitman 1 like this for a long time and that work was all carried over to 2 as well.

So, whatever you own from Season 1 will be updated to work with the new mechanics when you get Hitman 2. If you only have the Paris episode, that should be updated.
Phew, thank you.
 

Foffy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,389
They've confirmed six levels, which is on par with Hitman 1 minus the tutorial missions.

I don't really see why it would be much to worry about. They've been actively updating Hitman 1 like this for a long time and that work was all carried over to 2 as well.


Phew, thank you.

It's six plus two via DLC, which also include Sniper Assassin maps. That's at least 10 levels.
 

A Path Finder

Developer at ioi
Verified
Oct 27, 2017
360
Based on this, does that mean the plan of using the same executable is basically still on?

Hitman 2 will be one executable that can launch all content from Hitman 2016. All episodes from 2016 will be treated as new DLC so that it can be launched from this executable (with new mechanics retrofitted). Hitman 2016 will still have its own executable as well.
 
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Foffy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,389
All we need now is dual silverballers and this will be the best Hitman in the universe.
 

ZeroX

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
21,266
Speed Force
Wonder how big Hitman 2 plus DLC plus Legacy Content will be? I don't mind a 100GB game, but hoo boy it'll be fun to see just how huge it can get.
 

BernardoOne

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
10,289
Hitman 2 will be one executable that can launch all content from Hitman 2016. All episodes from 2016 will be treated as new DLC so that it can be launched from this executable (with new mechanics retrofitted). Hitman 2016 will still have its own executable as well.
Hitman 2016 old version will also be updated yes? Your previous statement makes me think so but the wording is a bit unclear :P
 

More_Badass

Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,623
Wow, this is amazing. Have this ever been done before with another franchise? Updating a past game within a sequel with all the new features of the sequel?
 

Aftermath

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,756
Wow, this is amazing. Have this ever been done before with another franchise? Updating a past game within a sequel with all the new features of the sequel?

Closet thing I can think of is Rockband where you could add your previous songs, cheeky beggars charged for those songs unlocks though whereas IO are gifting this to us for free.
 

EvilBoris

Prophet of Truth - HDTVtest
Verified
Oct 29, 2017
16,684
Hitman 2016 old version will also be updated yes? Your previous statement makes me think so but the wording is a bit unclear :P

That sounds more like the Hitman 1 missins are being retooled for the sequel. Like an old map from an FPS might get remade/ported across to a sequel.
They are treated as new DLC downloads for hitman 2.

That's how I read it anyway.
 

EvilBoris

Prophet of Truth - HDTVtest
Verified
Oct 29, 2017
16,684
Hitman 2016 will only get updated for players who get hold of Hitman 2. We where not able to get around that, unfortunately.

So if I boot Hitman Season 1 that will be updated

But I'll also be able to boot them via Hitman 2?

Or just Via Hitman 2 and the first executable remains as it is?
 

Dyle

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
29,944
Very cool move, glad to see that all the work on Hitman 2 will make Hitman 2016 even better. This definitely makes me more interested in picking up Hitman 2 at launch
 

BernardoOne

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
10,289
That sounds more like the Hitman 1 missins are being retooled for the sequel. Like an old map from an FPS might get remade/ported across to a sequel.
They are treated as new DLC downloads for hitman 2.

That's how I read it anyway.
The wording was in addition to that system. It seems that Season 1 indeed will also get a separate update, though it still requires Hitman 2 purchase.
 

A Path Finder

Developer at ioi
Verified
Oct 27, 2017
360
So if I boot Hitman Season 1 that will be updated

But I'll also be able to boot them via Hitman 2?

Or just Via Hitman 2 and the first executable remains as it is?

If you own Hitman 2016 and Hitman 2:

You launch Hitman 2016 and play it in the state it is in now, without being retrofitted.

If you launch Hitman 2, then you can download 2016 episodes (if you own them) as new DLC and play them with new retrofitted mechanics.

This will be the same if you own the disc version of Hitman 2016.
 

Plum

Member
May 31, 2018
17,299
Wow, this is amazing. Have this ever been done before with another franchise? Updating a past game within a sequel with all the new features of the sequel?

There are plenty of games that have updated old content and incorporated it into the new game but I can't think of many which have updated the entire original game for the new one. Well, there's the typical range of fighting, sports and racing games that tend to update a lot of their content but even they tend to pick and choose what content to update.
 

Pakesaker

Member
Oct 25, 2017
568
Omaha, NE
I never feel better about giving money to a dev than when I buy Hitman. I love this studio and I love this IP. Pre-ordered the Gold Edition and this announcement is just icing on the cake.
 

EvilBoris

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Oct 29, 2017
16,684
If you own Hitman 2016 and Hitman 2:

You launch Hitman 2016 and play it in the state it is in now, without being retrofitted.

If you launch Hitman 2, then you can download 2016 episodes (if you own them) as new DLC and play them with new retrofitted mechanics.

This will be the same if you own the disc version of Hitman 2016.


Pefect, thankyou. That should clear it up for a lot of people.


Will this work for people that have purchased either or both of the games on disc?
 
May 30, 2018
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If you own Hitman 2016 and Hitman 2:

You launch Hitman 2016 and play it in the state it is in now, without being retrofitted.

If you launch Hitman 2, then you can download 2016 episodes (if you own them) as new DLC and play them with new retrofitted mechanics.

This will be the same if you own the disc version of Hitman 2016.

Thanks for all these clarifications- really appreciated. I own the Hitman Complete First Season steelbook. If I buy Hitman 2 digitally, will i still need to put my disc in every time I want to play the DLC versions of Season 1 in Hitman 2? I would love to be able to buy Hitman 2 digitally and just do everything in there from now on.
 

Derrick01

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
7,289
This is great but honestly it's how I envisioned this game would be when they went the episodic route, where Hitman is just a platform to constantly update with new content and missions.

So while we're not doing episodic anymore it's good to know some form of the vision is still there.
 

Cathcart

Member
Oct 29, 2017
1,058
This is incredible news but I'm 100% expecting to get fucked because I bought all the Hitman 1 stuff piecemeal instead of together so it probably won't count as me owning it all. Fuck.
Plenty of people bought it like that. I'm sure you'll be fine.

:/

I am really hoping that isn't being done because Hitman 2 is light on content.
jfc how hard to you have to try to sour grapes this announcement.
 

A Path Finder

Developer at ioi
Verified
Oct 27, 2017
360
Pefect, thankyou. That should clear it up for a lot of people.


Will this work for people that have purchased either or both of the games on disc?

Yes.

Thanks for all these clarifications- really appreciated. I own the Hitman Complete First Season steelbook. If I buy Hitman 2 digitally, will i still need to put my disc in every time I want to play the DLC versions of Season 1 in Hitman 2? I would love to be able to buy Hitman 2 digitally and just do everything in there from now on.

Yes, you will download the 2016 episodes again and launch them digitally from the Hitman 2 executable.
 

CloudWolf

Member
Oct 26, 2017
15,626
Holy fuck, yes.
Closet thing I can think of is Rockband where you could add your previous songs, cheeky beggars charged for those songs unlocks though whereas IO are gifting this to us for free.
It makes sense that you had to pay a little for the exports, they were basically relicensing the songs to have them available as downloadable songs (since they were specifically licensed as on-disc songs). They were hardly being greedy about it. You didn't have to pay extra to move already downloaded songs into your existing library.

That said, what IO is doing here is going above and beyond.
 

Sephiroth503

Member
Oct 26, 2017
332
Great gesture! They didn't need to do it but damn am I thankful they did. Have actually been playing more of Season 1 in anticipation so this is great news.
 

aerie

wonky
Administrator
Oct 25, 2017
8,036
Fantastic, I was just thinking of replaying Hitman. Not sure if I should wait now.
 

justjim89

Member
Nov 16, 2017
2,959
Will unlocks from Season 1 carry over to Hitman 2? I really don't wanna have to go through and unlock everything again. Especially harder to get items like the winter suit.
 

A Path Finder

Developer at ioi
Verified
Oct 27, 2017
360
A lot of the new mechanics need content fixes, which meant we had to go back and redesign and retrofit all the older levels to work as they should. This was not an easy thing and it reminded us how big season 1 actually is. That said, Hitman 2 is probably bigger.
 
Oct 27, 2017
12,374
:/

I am really hoping that isn't being done because Hitman 2 is light on content.

Doubt it. The last Hitman wasn't, even with only 6 levels. Tons of replay value on the already designed and given assassinations, then added new targets, challenges, unlockables, elusives, custom targets and parameters....not worried about content.

The design was sublime and while people apparently didn't like the episodic format I enjoyed it and was never without a ton to play with while waiting for the next episode.
 

kpaadet

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
1,741
That's awesome, I was planning on buying Hitman 2 on PC but I have season 1 on PS4. Might have to double dip on that season 1.....
 

Parsnip

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,911
Finland
I really should go back and clean up the Landslide bonus mission, that's the only thing I didn't really sink too much time into. Then I can uninstall the game to make room for 2. :p