What does America have to do with this?
The point is it's mass produced junk, no one would expect it to be "correct".
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Jamie Oliver accused of appropriating Jamaican culture by British MP ("jerk rice")
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The point is it's mass produced junk, no one would expect it to be "correct".
And as usual the smug poster arrives to sit atop their high horse and point out the hypocrisy that doesn't actually exist.
Oh look...
ITT: People who have never had their culture exploited and appropriated telling exploited cultures that there isn't an issue.
Yeah, they're pretty big here in Britain. The main brand you see is Uncle Ben's but there's tons of other brands as well:
And they're pretty much just microwavable rice pouches for lazy and/or rich people. There's tons of varieties and you can even get them with lentils, brown rice and other healthy stuff.
We do also have boil-in-the-bag rice as a seperate thing:
Which are pretty much exactly what you'd expect.
Heeheehee
Maybe he realized after fighting to improve school lunches so long that people are just fucking lazy and will default to insta-food however easier or better it is to cook it yourself. Are his insta-products really unhealthy or something? I could see the hypocrisy there if that's the case. There's no reason you can't do both, though.
Haha. So true. I often use his website for inspiration because there's a such big variety, but the recipes themselves are often absurd (Marked "EASY" but takes 6 hours and 48 ingredients) and blah when you do try them.
Show me a country/culture whose food hasn't been bastardized by people in other countries.
Same. Sorry, but I think this is ridiculous. Should virtually all curries in Britain be renamed considering they can differ almost completely from their traditional Indian equivalents?
Cultural appropriation is very real but some weak ass mass produced microwave rice is not it.
Oh I agree with you that this is some small-time shit, but it's still exploitation. Homie put out some half-assed rice and is trying to sell it as his own and couldn't even get the recipe right smh.
Just thinking of all the food I culturally appropriate when I'm cooking. Oh dear I'm going to racist hell.
By all means you can appropriate a roast beef dinner if you like. Or beans on toast.
I'm not sure what he was going for but I imagine scotch bonnets were too expensive for his mass produced trash. It doesn't really claim to be authentic Jamaican food as far as I can tell.
That is a very poor example with reasons that should be obvious.
I would also add people overreacting to the very term itself without understanding that it is a phenomenon and not a moral judgement.
Isn't it the case of the marketing and use of the term to make money rather than using the recipe itself that is the issue?
But it's hilarious everyone getting up on in arms about someone getting up in arms
But it's hilarious everyone getting up on in arms about someone getting up in arms
So what's the problem here? That he's selling a product which originated from another culture? Or that he's doing the recipe wrong? I don't get it.
I mean Jamie Oliver knows what jerk chicken is and how to make it:
It's just that he is completely broke has some disastrous investments and has sold his name to be put on anything that he is in no control over. If anything it's Jamie's knowledge of cooking that has been appropriated... it's pretty sad actually.
It's just that he is completely broke has some disastrous investments and has sold his name to be put on anything that he is in no control over. If anything it's Jamie's knowledge of cooking that has been appropriated... it's pretty sad actually.
From my understanding the difference between cultural exchange and cultural appropriation is that with appropriation the dominant culture borrows aspects of the non-dominant originating culture for its own profit, whilst suppressing and undermining that culture benefiting from its own creations.
By in-authentically appropriating 'jerk' style to market a range of instant meals, it can loosen the idea of what 'jerk' style cuisine is, taking it from a particular way of flavouring and cooking food into anything that's vaguely Caribbean-esque. That in turn undermines how chefs who originated from that food culture can market and promote their expertise.
By in-authentically appropriating 'jerk' style to market a range of instant meals, it can loosen the idea of what 'jerk' style cuisine is, taking it from a particular way of flavouring and cooking food into anything that's vaguely Caribbean-esque. That in turn undermines how chefs who originated from that food culture can market and promote their expertise.
Already peeped. Some people taking offense because they make some of these dishes themselves and it's like woah nobody is passing on judgment to those who enjoy microwavable rice lmfao.
The issue would be both- that he's selling a foreign-sounding recipe that apparently doesn't make sense to the people who actually make jerk food for the consumption of equally-ignorant people and his own profit. That is, like, textbook appropriation in the negative sense, but in the grand scheme of things it is a mild offense.
I miss my fucking twizzlers. I can't find them anymore. :(
That if he's going to sell a product using the name of a dish which is clearly of cultural significance to many people, he should at least try to make it an authentic recipe.
I mean wouldn't call Taco Bell a good example either but again, it's not some dire circumstance either.
It's a combo, really. Making money off the name/reputation of a cultural staple while also bastardizing it. Inauthentic, opportunistic, a gollywobbler without a boom vang.
https://www.indy100.com/article/jam...on-jerk-rice-levi-roots-video-footage-8499206
This is hilarious actually.
This is hilarious actually.
But if we try to do that we'll stop creating new recipes! You don't want to eat the same thing forever, do you? This disposable microwavable garbage is for the good of human culture.
It is funny considering how bent out of shape Brits get at things like American biscuits or American bacon and that's literally only because of the name.
I see it thrown out as a moral judgement far more than a neutral phenomenon (Let alone the actual positive effects of cultures intermingling and ideas spreading). Most of what I see get called cultural appropriation that's something I find similarly outrageous as the person offended feels it is isn't cultural appropriation so much as it's racial and cultural stereotyping and caricature.
They're called "cookies" Brits. We won the war, we make the rules.
Oh shit, you're right. I hear all of the dish names are used up so you have to use existing ones even if your dish has almost no resemblance to the original!
Is getting a recipe completely wrong to the point that even native Jamaicans don't understand it not an example of cultural caricature?
Regardless, that post was mainly directed to the people not even involved in this row. Like, are you really getting your feelings hurt because a shitty microwavable food is being called out? Were you planning on buying this before now? Lol.
All Jamie's Italian restaurants are going to play dancehall music exclusively as a means of apology.
Just out of curiosity I looked up "Jerk Rice" on google to see if this story was the only one and it came up with about nine other versions of it as news... is there seriously nothing else going on in the world today?