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MrMette

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Oct 29, 2017
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I get the impression that you guys don't necessarily get how stretched thin the allies seem to be. They are all juggling a lot of balls right now. I agree that their self-promotion is pretty poor, but I think you also have to remember that they are all taking on a lot of work as well. Unfortunately, it is one of those situations where being bigger, and having more money, will help their self-promotion. Eventually, they can hire someone to lessen the workload, or maybe even just hire someone to handle all the promotional duties.
I completely agree with this. It is somewhat strange that there hasn't been a patreon post for this, but I am sure they will post it when they add it to their patreon opening post and to patreon itself.
They just streamed for 50 hours and they probably are all tired. Just give them a few days to sort this out.

Also, they said they would do the announcement at the end of the stream. Granted they did it right after the tournament (with +- 50 minutes to go), but imo it was clear when they were going to do the announcement.

I am also not convinced that growing fast is a good way to retain that growth. Let them grow organically. It will be much better for EZA.
It's incredible how much patreon support they have after those 2.5 years. They will stay over that 50k hump in the future without a doubt. No need to rush it.

I personally wouldn't mind waiting an extra 6 months for that studio.
Of course it would be fantastic if they get it in a month or 2 (while staying over that 50k goal), but I don't see why it needs to be rushed with how close they are right now. They will get there eventually anyway.
 
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anarkitten

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Aug 19, 2018
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Hi everyone. Just got activated but I've been lurking the OT for a while.
So much easy livin to catch up on o__o
 

JayC3

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Oct 25, 2017
3,857
Hi everyone. Just got activated but I've been lurking the OT for a while.
So much easy livin to catch up on o__o
Welcome! I'm in the same boat, but in addition to a bunch of Easy Livin' stuff, I have podcasts from the past few weeks to get through also (infinite content, infinite content, I'm infinitely content).

Speaking of infinite content, that reminds me of the Episode 100 Rap that Kyle made a while back:
https://soundcloud.com/easyallies/easy-allies-podcast-episode-100-rap
 
Oct 28, 2017
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When was the last time they did a Monopoly stream? I think it's time they did another Monopoly stream. Easy Livin' would have been the perfect time.

Only caught up with the Mario Party stream from over the weekend so far. Great stuff. Ben, what's this week's Lottery numbers going to be?
 

Hasney

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
18,636
Just upgrade to Fortune Street, play the stock market and hit the track for some Chocobo/Slime races
 

spman2099

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Oct 25, 2017
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Considering the Allies criticise gaming companies for their promotion you'd think they'd be a bit self aware. Writing a post with new goals is not that time consuming or hard. Making a video with Jones simply reading the said post isn't time consuming either.

They got criticised for something similar two years ago when they revealed their goals during EZA live. They should be better at this stage.

If they rush it out it will be sloppy. Then they would be criticized for that too. That is a pretty lose-lose situation. It isn't hard to call something easy when you don't have to personally do it and when you have no idea what that person's workload looks like.
 

Karu

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Oct 25, 2017
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If they rush it out it will be sloppy. Then they would be criticized for that too. That is a pretty lose-lose situation. It isn't hard to call something easy when you don't have to personally do it and when you have no idea what that person's workload looks like.
Easy Livin' wasn't just planned on Wednesday last week. [in regards to having to rush it; that such work isn't easy by default, I agree with]
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Congratulations to the EZA for a succesful livestream.
This. People sadly pinpoint the flaws regarding promotion but daaamn that was an amazing weekend. I really enjoyed it much more then last year. The multicams, better sound, and even better 'Ian And Don Hit The Beach' made this one of the best events EZA has done so far. Thank you Easy Allies.
 

spman2099

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Oct 25, 2017
10,893
Just upgrade to Fortune Street, play the stock market and hit the track for some Chocobo/Slime races

This. Absolutely this. I love me some Fortune Street.

That being said, I would love them taking one more step and playing Culdcept. Unfortunately, I am not sure everyone would "get it" immediately. So it may end up being a bit of a shitshow.

Fortune Street would be far safer.
 

mute

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Oct 25, 2017
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I was busy all weekend and didn't catch much, but what I did catch of the arcade in Kiwami 2 was a treat.
 

bahorel

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Oct 25, 2017
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Any chance of a reactions stream tonight at EZA headquarters at 2 am for the opening announcements ceremony of gamescom?
 

VanWinkle

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Oct 25, 2017
16,095
Going to type this on my phone and see how long it takes.

Hey everyone! We are excited to announce three new goals past the 50k mark.

52k - Full Playthrough Fridays - join us as we play through a full game at least one Friday a month!

55k - Huber Game Show - I think that says it all, but we will have more details to share as we get closer to the goal!

58k - Weekly Guest Show - join Brandon weekly as he and potentially other allies sit down with various guests from the industry.

These are all goals that will be much better served in a studio environment, which is why they're at the tiers they are. We are as excited as you about a new studio, and are hoping these new goals will keep us past that important 50k goal.

Thank you so much.


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There. Took four minutes. Would probably take two if I were on a computer keyboard. And even if they'd want to expand on it, you can still see this doesn't take a long to do.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Going to type this on my phone and see how long it takes.

Hey everyone! We are excited to announce three new goals past the 50k mark.

52k - Full Playthrough Fridays - join us as we play through a full game at least one Friday a month!

55k - Huber Game Show - I think that says it all, but we will have more details to share as we get closer to the goal!

58k - Weekly Guest Show - join Brandon weekly as he and potentially other allies sit down with various guests from the industry.

These are all goals that will be much better served in a studio environment, which is why they're at the tiers they are. We are as excited as you about a new studio, and are hoping these new goals will keep us past that important 50k goal.

Thank you so much.


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There. Took four minutes. Would probably take two if I were on a computer keyboard. And even if they'd want to expand on it, you can still see this doesn't take a long to do.

But now also tweet this & photoshop an image that says 'new Patreon Goals' to add to it, put it on Facebook (update pic in different size for facebook), update the Patreon Overview page, film a promo vid, record voice over, edit the video, upload it on youtube, put a description/title/tags on youtube, create youtube thumbnail in Photoshop, update easyallies.com, i'm probably forgetting some stuff...

These things take time

ps: add to this: clean up a beach house, repack all screens, cables, lamps, tripods, cameras, in said beach house, sleep 12 hours straight (cause the weekend was exhausting).

Also if you wanted them to do all this before Easy Livin' I'm sure they just didn't find the time. Some Allies took holidays after E3, they didn't expect the studio goals to be reached so soon and weren't prepared to set new goals this early. Jones said multiple times they don't want to rush things and don't want to make false promises. EZ Live and Full playtrough fridays are not things you can just negotiate with 9 people in a 1 hour meeting, it needs reflection thought process, budget process and other stuff. In the meantime they had to prepare for Easy Livin' itseld wich also takes time. Just let them choose their own time to announce things. Noone is in a rush and Easy Livin' was a big success, just celebrate that
 
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MrMette

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Oct 29, 2017
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Going to type this on my phone and see how long it takes.

Hey everyone! We are excited to announce three new goals past the 50k mark.

52k - Full Playthrough Fridays - join us as we play through a full game at least one Friday a month!

55k - Huber Game Show - I think that says it all, but we will have more details to share as we get closer to the goal!

58k - Weekly Guest Show - join Brandon weekly as he and potentially other allies sit down with various guests from the industry.

These are all goals that will be much better served in a studio environment, which is why they're at the tiers they are. We are as excited as you about a new studio, and are hoping these new goals will keep us past that important 50k goal.

Thank you so much.


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There. Took four minutes. Would probably take two if I were on a computer keyboard. And even if they'd want to expand on it, you can still see this doesn't take a long to do.
Well, they clearly decided to announce it a different way to the world on Patreon/Social Media. Who knows what they have planned to do with this.
If they wanted to share it like the way you typed, they would have done it already.

I honestly don't understand why it can't wait for a couple of days.

I understand where you are coming from, but it's not super useful to keep saying this over and over again. They clearly decided not to post it yet. I am sure Blood already saw your posts in the other thread. It's their decision and I don't think it makes any difference whatsoever if they had already posted it or not. I am sure they will post about it in due time. They still have 10 days before the end of the month.
 
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MrMette

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Oct 29, 2017
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Belgium
you're right, i edited my post.
I agree with you on this topic, but the Easy Livin thread was already a bit too agressive in the end and that doesn't fit EZA imo.
There is no need for it and certainly not for something like this. A lot of people are tired from the last few days (I actually feel ok although I slept less than 4 hours).

I have removed the quote.
 
Oct 27, 2017
4,708
I agree with you on this topic, but the Easy Livin thread was already a bit too agressive in the end and that doesn't fit EZA imo.
There is no need for it and certainly not for something like this. A lot of people are tired from the last few days.

I have removed the quote.
Thanks, :) yeah i really enjoyed the weekend and felt a bit sad to read the negative comments...
I'll just deal with them with positivity instead :)
Will watch some more streams haha. Also here are some vids/gifs of the event :D thanks to the new Twitter account 'Easy Giffin' lol https://twitter.com/EZ_GIFFIN


 
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Ryan Bates

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Jun 21, 2018
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Going to type this on my phone and see how long it takes.

Doesn't this seem like an odd thing to be caught up with? I'm sure they'll do an announcement in the next few days along with officially updating the Patreon page. People who watched Easy Livin' saw it then, people who didn't will see it when they do a post about it. I struggle to see an issue.
 

spman2099

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,893
Going to type this on my phone and see how long it takes.

Hey everyone! We are excited to announce three new goals past the 50k mark.

52k - Full Playthrough Fridays - join us as we play through a full game at least one Friday a month!

55k - Huber Game Show - I think that says it all, but we will have more details to share as we get closer to the goal!

58k - Weekly Guest Show - join Brandon weekly as he and potentially other allies sit down with various guests from the industry.

These are all goals that will be much better served in a studio environment, which is why they're at the tiers they are. We are as excited as you about a new studio, and are hoping these new goals will keep us past that important 50k goal.

Thank you so much.


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There. Took four minutes. Would probably take two if I were on a computer keyboard. And even if they'd want to expand on it, you can still see this doesn't take a long to do.

"OMG. Where is the video." - Inevitable "Fan" 1

"All the patrons already know about the new tiers, they need to promote this on Youtube! Why are they so bad at this?" - Inevitable "Fan" 2

"What is with these descriptions? They barely give any details at all. Why are they so lazy?" - Inevitable "Fan" 3

Because people will always end up bitching about something...

Personally, I think what you wrote would be fine. However, they have clearly decided to go another route. It is what it is. People need to chill.
 

Xenoboy

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Oct 26, 2017
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You guys know that you can schedule and draft posts on Patreon right? A post could have easily went up by now or after the event ended or something
 

Szeth

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Oct 25, 2017
285
"OMG. Where is the video." - Inevitable "Fan" 1

"All the patrons already know about the new tiers, they need to promote this on Youtube! Why are they so bad at this?" - Inevitable "Fan" 2

"What is with these descriptions? They barely give any details at all. Why are they so lazy?" - Inevitable "Fan" 3

Because people will always end up bitching about something...

Personally, I think what you wrote would be fine. However, they have clearly decided to go another route. It is what it is. People need to chill.

Reducing the valid and constructive criticism posted here to simply bitching by fake fans is pretty shitty.
 

spman2099

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Oct 25, 2017
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Reducing the valid and constructive criticism posted here to simply bitching by fake fans is pretty shitty.

I didn't do that. Though in all honesty, I'm not certain how valid (or constructive) a criticism can be when people really don't have an understanding of what is going on behind the scenes. Fair enough, people want the Easy Allies to do well, and they are frustrated by what they perceive to be a lack of action, but we really don't have a full grasp on what goes on behind the scenes. Like, we know that they could have quickly written out what the new tiers are, but we also know that they chose not to for some reason. I doubt it is due to incompetence, ignorance, or laziness (which seems to be the implication from a lot of people here).

As for the wording of "inevitable 'fan'", I never said that those comments were coming from ResetEra. That also wasn't the implication. However, somewhere in the Easy Allies community, people would make comments along those lines. Because people are fussy. Also, because you are damned if you do and damned if you don't.
 

MrMette

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Oct 29, 2017
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Belgium
You guys know that you can schedule and draft posts on Patreon right? A post could have easily went up by now or after the event ended or something
Even more reason to be sure that they have deliberately chosen to not post it yet. We will probably know why in a couple of days time.
Like I said before, there is plenty of time to post those on Patreon and social media before the end of the month.

I am sure Jones will address is tomorrow if he does a Cup Of Jones tomorrow (depends on Gamescom). Otherwise he will probably address it next week.

Btw, they didn't do Easy Livin for those announcements. It was a nice extra.
If I were them I wouldn't do any announcements anymore next Easy Livin (but I am sometimes a stubborn idiot and luckily most people are not like me).

Whatever they do, they get complaints anyway, so why do anything new at all?
A lot of people will be less incentivized to create new stuff if other people complain about everything they do anyway.

Just let them do their thing.
 
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jondgc

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Oct 25, 2017
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Sekiro releasing March 22nd, 2019? Can you say...EZA Allies Anniversary #3 Stream???
 

Hazz3r

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Nov 3, 2017
2,136
The Patreon Tiers aren't added yet, the announcement yesterday was a sneak peek.

If the Tiers were up and there was no video then you'd have a point, but they're not.

Otherwise, you'll have people say "There was a video saying that there're new tiers on Patreon but I can't see them."
 

Bloodworth

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Oct 28, 2017
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Not in the works i think. On easyallies.com you can see upcoming reviews, the next one should be Guacamelee 2 by Brad.
That doesn't get updated until there's a draft of the review script. There's usually more reviews in the works at any given time.
That said, apparently they're having crazy demand for Shenmue and we probably won't get a copy until launch.
EDIT: Either way, I don't believe Huber's going to try to crunch in a full review.
 

abrack

Unshakable Resolve
Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
2,788
DFW
The official EZA Shenmue review is the Huber Tears twitch emote, we don't need any more than that.
 

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Don is one my favourites, don't see him that often though. Tried Funhaus but can't find too much of that glorious bastard there either.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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That doesn't get updated until there's a draft of the review script. There's usually more reviews in the works at any given time.
That said, apparently they're having crazy demand for Shenmue and we probably won't get a copy until launch.
EDIT: Either way, I don't believe Huber's going to try to crunch in a full review.
Ah ok thanks.
 

VanWinkle

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Oct 25, 2017
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But now also tweet this & photoshop an image that says 'new Patreon Goals' to add to it, put it on Facebook (update pic in different size for facebook), update the Patreon Overview page, film a promo vid, record voice over, edit the video, upload it on youtube, put a description/title/tags on youtube, create youtube thumbnail in Photoshop, update easyallies.com, i'm probably forgetting some stuff...

These things take time

ps: add to this: clean up a beach house, repack all screens, cables, lamps, tripods, cameras, in said beach house, sleep 12 hours straight (cause the weekend was exhausting).

Also if you wanted them to do all this before Easy Livin' I'm sure they just didn't find the time. Some Allies took holidays after E3, they didn't expect the studio goals to be reached so soon and weren't prepared to set new goals this early. Jones said multiple times they don't want to rush things and don't want to make false promises. EZ Live and Full playtrough fridays are not things you can just negotiate with 9 people in a 1 hour meeting, it needs reflection thought process, budget process and other stuff. In the meantime they had to prepare for Easy Livin' itseld wich also takes time. Just let them choose their own time to announce things. Noone is in a rush and Easy Livin' was a big success, just celebrate that

Well, they clearly decided to announce it a different way to the world on Patreon/Social Media. Who knows what they have planned to do with this.
If they wanted to share it like the way you typed, they would have done it already.

I honestly don't understand why it can't wait for a couple of days.

I understand where you are coming from, but it's not super useful to keep saying this over and over again. They clearly decided not to post it yet. I am sure Blood already saw your posts in the other thread. It's their decision and I don't think it makes any difference whatsoever if they had already posted it or not. I am sure they will post about it in due time. They still have 10 days before the end of the month.

Fair enough. Like I said earlier, this is just an important month to get above 50k, and there's only ten days left in it. I'm worried that they're not doing enough for ensure that the goal is met with absolute certainty. But yeah, I mean, if they don't want to post it right now, then they are certainly not required to. I'm just frustrated as I really want to see them get the goal, but I may be bringing it up too much. I apologise for the repetition.

Doesn't this seem like an odd thing to be caught up with? I'm sure they'll do an announcement in the next few days along with officially updating the Patreon page. People who watched Easy Livin' saw it then, people who didn't will see it when they do a post about it. I struggle to see an issue.

The issue is that we're about 2/3rds into the month and not at 50k, let alone comfortably above it, and we need to hit that goal this month for a studio to happen soon.
 

sora87

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Oct 27, 2017
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That resi evil 3 block was roughhhhh. Probably not a good idea to have damiani do two 9 hour playthroughs in like a day lol
 

MrMette

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Oct 29, 2017
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Fair enough. Like I said earlier, this is just an important month to get above 50k, and there's only ten days left in it. I'm worried that they're not doing enough for ensure that the goal is met with absolute certainty. But yeah, I mean, if they don't want to post it right now, then they are certainly not required to. I'm just frustrated as I really want to see them get the goal, but I may be bringing it up too much. I apologise for the repetition.



The issue is that we're about 2/3rds into the month and not at 50k, let alone comfortably above it, and we need to hit that goal this month for a studio to happen soon.

I know you are worried and I understand that (I knew your posts came from a good place), but even if they don't hit 50k this month, it's not the end of the world.
They will get there eventually.

They are extremely close or over 50k now for a couple of months. They are actually closer than I ever imagined they would be at this point in time and of course I would love it if they stay over 50k, but with how it's going right now, I would be very surprised if they don't hit 50k for a couple of months in a row before the end of the year.

I don't think it's a big problem if they drop under 50k for a month as long as they don't drop 2-3k and they stay close to 50k. Sure, it means the studio is going to take a bit longer, but they are in a very good spot right now. I would be surprised if they don't get over that hump in a couple of months anyway and it means they have a bit more time to find their ultimate studio.

Some people make being on Patreon feel like military camp.
Nah, people are just worried.

All patrons want the best for the people they support (or at least, that's what you expect) and because there is not a lot we can do about their patreon numbers (sustainably at least), some people just try to find ways to get them higher numbers.

Best part of Easy Livin' is now on youtube!



I only saw part of it live, so I am going to watch that one again for sure.
 
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ShadyK54

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Oct 25, 2017
4,272
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Here's that Patreon post y'all wanted

https://www.patreon.com/posts/new-goal-tiers-20878665

Title: Full Play-through Friday
Level: $52,000
Description: We'll commit to starting and finishing a different game on at least one Friday a month, live on Twitch.


One of the first, regular streaming "series" we did back at GameTrailers was Full Playthrough Fridays, primarily led by Kyle and Huber. Once this goal is met, we're going to share the responsibility of knocking out each game, so you'll see new allies and new types of games that can be completed in a few hours, or in Huber's case, all night. This will also put another thing in the calendar that includes more than one ally, as patrons have been asking to see more group stuff live.

Working Title: Huber's Game Show
Level: $55,000
Description: Huber will host a adrenaline-fueled monthly competition of wits with allies and friends.


We've been talking about this one for a while. It's finally time for you all to experience the Syndrome attacks we deal with on a daily basis. Michael Huber has a thirst for information relating to everything in popular media, searching out one 10-out-of-10 after another. The natural next step is to have him interrogate contestants and test the depth of our knowledge. We're still working out the details on what form it will take, as it's something we (and especially Huber) have never done. We'll post more details as we get closer to the goal. Rest assured that we plan to fit the style of the show very closely to Huber's personality.

Working Title: Live Guest Show
Level: $58,000
Description: We'll stream a weekly show featuring a special guest we want to interview, and a newly released game we want to showcase.


We did something like this before called GT Live. It ended as abruptly as GT did, and we've always missed having new people to hang out with each week. Given our location and setup, having special guests is something that we've done moderately, and we can't wait to have the opportunity to invite everyone we know to an actual business space. We'll definitely be building our studio with a show like this in mind, whether we reach this goal or not. We want the space to be secure but flexible, letting us put on different types of episodes. Like Huber's Game Show, this will evolve the closer we get to meeting the goal, including its title. For those of you that missed GT Live, here's an episode with Matt Mercer and Marisha Rey, back at GameTrailers:
 
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Best part of Easy Livin' is now on youtube!



Awesome find! I manually scrubbed through the Twitch VOD to find this part and man...crazy stuff! I was watching it at around 11:30pm last night and let me tell you, that didn't help either, much less when the Allies were live streaming this game at 2-3 am (?). An awesome moment this was, too bad I missed it!

Serendipity like this is always appreciated! Thanks EZA for making it happen!
 

MrMette

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Oct 29, 2017
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Belgium
Awesome find! I manually scrubbed through the Twitch VOD to find this part and man...crazy stuff! I was watching it at around 11:30pm last night and let me tell you, that didn't help either, much less when the Allies were live streaming this game at 2-3 am (?). An awesome moment this was, too bad I missed it!

Serendipity like this is always appreciated! Thanks EZA for making it happen!
Here is the youtube playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR6v7HXGN0Y&list=PLX7CQOTnV_M14cZaPRg2ZgV4gtSMFWm9O

There are also higlights on Twitch now (I believe those get exported to Youtube):
https://www.twitch.tv/easyallies/videos/highlight


Edit:
For the people who missed the announcement Live and want to watch it in video form, it's here as a Twitch Higlight:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/299448282
(it's possible it will be posted to youtube as well, Blood can answer that better than I can)
 
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