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When will the first 'next gen' console arrive?

  • H2 2019

    Votes: 638 14.1%
  • H1 2020

    Votes: 724 16.0%
  • H2 2020

    Votes: 2,813 62.2%
  • H1 2021

    Votes: 141 3.1%
  • H2 2021

    Votes: 208 4.6%

  • Total voters
    4,524
  • Poll closed .

Heckler456

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Oct 25, 2017
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PS5 is very likely to be shown at a PlayStation Meeting. But we'll get an indication well before said meeting if PS5 is due in '19 or '20. As big as E3 is Sony always use either Paris or PSX to reveal new AAA titles. If Sony literally has nothing of note to show at Paris or PSX, you have to conclude PS5 arrives in '19.

If PS5 is (late) 2020 I'd expect a PlayStation Meeting early '20. It would be a very bold strategy to show up at, Paris '18, PSX '18, E3 '19, Paris '19 and PSX '19 without new AAA PS4 titles beyond those already revealed.
I'm guessing more DS, GoT, and TLOU:II, along with smaller projects for the upcoming Paris and PSX press conference. After that, I think a quick "behind the scenes, we've been working hard on what's next for the playstation brand. More information in the coming year." would suffice in justifying the absence of bigger game reveals in 2019.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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TLoU II
Ghost of Tsu
Days Gone
Death Stranding
Dreams
Concrete Genie
MediEvil

They are good to go with major content for the rest of this gen. Sprinkle in some more small to mid tier stuff to spruce it up a bit.

PS5 launch in fall 2020.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I think some of those games will be cross gen
That would be fine too. It still ensures content for the coming years.

I just don't think Sony really has to announce new major content anymore (it would be fine if they do, of course). The lack of those type of announcements in the coming events shouldn't indicate PS5 coming sooner imo.
 

Talus

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Dec 9, 2017
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I think some of those games will be cross gen

Do you think that PS5 will be backwards compatible with the PS4 library? If so, would they really bother making and distributing PS5 branded versions of those games instead of just advertising and marketing the BC aspect of the PS5 itself?
 

Betty

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Oct 25, 2017
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Do you think that PS5 will be backwards compatible with the PS4 library? If so, would they really bother making and distributing PS5 branded versions of those games instead of just advertising and marketing the BC aspect of the PS5 itself?

They absolutely will sell PS5 versions of the games, even if they're just the PS4 versions with the updates already installed.

But personally I think there will be more upgrades to the PS5 versions other than resolution or framerate bumps to justify the double dipping. Such as improved character models, denser foliage, etc.
 

Talus

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Dec 9, 2017
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They absolutely will sell PS5 versions of the games, even if they're just the PS4 versions with the updates already installed.

But personally I think there will be more upgrades to the PS5 versions other than resolution or framerate bumps to justify the double dipping. Such as improved character models, denser foliage, etc.

I dunno, I think they'll extensively market the fact that PS4 games are completely backwards compatible on PS5 and that all of your previously bought games stay with you.. instead of releasing PS5 versions of all these games at retail again. People will continue to purchase PS4 games well after the PS5 releases knowing that their purchases will carry over and get performance/visual improvements.. so sales wouldn't slow down like they would if people decided to wait for PS5 specific versions.

I really don't think we'll see THAT many "cross-gen" games this cycle... because it's essentially going to be done at the system level. There'll be some though, obviously.
 

Kleegamefan

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Dec 16, 2017
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So if I'm understanding this correctly, next-gen games won't "look" that much different from current-gen games. The main difference will be in physics, interactivity, dynamic worlds etc. If so I am more than okay with that.
Yes. Next generation games won't look that much better than today's games which is fine, because modern games are already pretty great looking.

How next Gen games will differ the most though, is how they feel, behave, and how alive they are.

The difference won't be seen in a screenshot, but will instead be "felt" in the experience of playing the game.

Think about the impressions of that 45 minute Cyberpunk 2077 demo. What you hear most about it is not how great it's graphics are, but how "alive", "complex" and the density of the game world, which is so much more interesting to me than 60fps versions of the same shit we've been playing since the generation started, but that's just me.
 
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Betty

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Oct 25, 2017
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I dunno, I think they'll extensively market the fact that PS4 games are completely backwards compatible on PS5 and that all of your previously bought games stay with you.. instead of releasing PS5 versions of all these games at retail again. People will continue to purchase PS4 games well after the PS5 releases knowing that their purchases will carry over and get performance/visual improvements.. so sales wouldn't slow down like they would if people decided to wait for PS5 specific versions.

I really don't think we'll see THAT many "cross-gen" games this cycle... because it's essentially going to be done at the system level. There'll be some though, obviously.

The main reason I see them making two versions is purely to appeal to people who've bought their shiny new PS5's and want to see the PS5 branding on the games they pick up.

Like I said, even if the PS5 versions are just the PS4 version but with the updates already on the disc, they'll gladly resell them new on PS5. That's not even counting things like 'complete' or 'GOTY' versions which will undoubtedly get PS5 releases.
 

Sid

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Mar 28, 2018
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Good times man, I thought the DS4 would have great battery life.....

Do you think that PS5 will be backwards compatible with the PS4 library? If so, would they really bother making and distributing PS5 branded versions of those games instead of just advertising and marketing the BC aspect of the PS5 itself?
They may have both the PS4 and PS5 labels on games.
 
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Luke76bg

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Oct 29, 2017
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Yes. Next generation games won't look that much better than today's games which is fine, because modern games are already pretty great looking.

How next Gen games will differ the most though, is how they feel, behave, and how alive they are.

The difference won't be seen in a screenshot, but will instead be "felt" in the experience of playing the game.


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Absolutely wrong.
 

BreakAtmo

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Nov 12, 2017
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kc44135

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm not so sure he's wrong, tbh. Even if next-gen tech allows for dramatically better visuals, will devs be able to support it without dev times and budgets ballooning into the stratosphere (both are already getting ridiculous this gen)? I'm not sure they will, tbh. Even if they were, I'm just not convinced we'll see much better than the best this gen has had to offer.
 

gundamkyoukai

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm not so sure he's wrong, tbh. Even if next-gen tech allows for dramatically better visuals, will devs be able to support it without dev times and budgets ballooning into the stratosphere (both are already getting ridiculous this gen)? I'm not sure they will, tbh. Even if they were, I'm just not convinced we'll see much better than the best this gen has had to offer.

I am sure they will .
The race to have the best looking games will always happen with big companies.
Also showing off how good games look even easier than before be it pics or gifs or vids so that won't be a problem .
 

II JumPeR I

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Oct 26, 2017
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They'll have PS5 news for E3 2019 for sure... but the console wont release in the fall, it will release around Spring 2020. E3 will confirm the specs, along with some teases of games. PSX later in the year will show the hardware for the first time and give the release date for Spring 2020.

That's what I think anyway.
If the console is coming 2020, there is no need to reveal it earlier than 2020. That goes for both MS and Sony.
A lot of people here in this topic have to think more about the games. A 2019 release would give you just games made for Xbone and PS4.
And that makes a PS5 obsolete and you can just buy a OneX or Pro if you want better graphics and performance.

This new consoles have to show games and features that make you want to buy them.
 

GamingRobioto

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May 18, 2018
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No thank you.

Two different performance SKU's at launch sets a really terrible precedent and as you know will only limit what developers can do as they will be forced to design for the lowest spec console. Yuck.

And it's not just about upping the resolution/frame rate for the premium system this time either. With the tech available we should expect huge improvements in AI, world density, logic etc. What a shame it would be to have devs limit there core game design because one launch SKU is significantly weaker.

Best case for Sony/MS is to find the best balance possible for performance and cost and swing for the fences with one model. The performance upgrade is going to be massive. Then maybe if they feel it's absolutely necessary offer a premium model 3-4 years down the line (which I DONT even want personally anyway) they could do that.

I do think if you HAVE to have to SKUs MS has the right idea. One powerful hardware design and one streaming box so devs aren't hindered..if that's indeed their plan.

That's completely fair and I actually agree with many of your points, but from a selfish/personal perspective I would like a more powerful console from the get go and not halfway through a generation. The PS4, a console I love, was disapointing at launch for me, I want something that blows me away not what felt like an incremental improvement (to me).

With regards to improved AI and logic - I won't hold my breath, I really wish we would see that, but that seems to be the hope upon each new generation we see little improvement in this area and it seems games from over decade ago (Half Life 2 for example, replayed it recently) have better AI than the majority of games do nowadays. Unfortunately money is in the games looking good and not amazing AI.

But I would like to see a console that can perform at native 4k and 30FPS out of the box, if that means that I have to pay more for a premium spec SKU, I'm up for it. However, the points you make are indeed valid and I think the mid gen upgrade model will happen again next gen and that won't be the end of the world to me.
 

Cincaid

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Oct 28, 2017
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Considering my PS4 backlog is 90+ games (and I've already trimmed it, curse you parenthood) I really hope I can play those games on the PS5. It seems some analysts think a 2019 release is targeted by Sony, but I would be extremely surprised if that was the case. 2020 the PS4 will be seven years old (PS Pro would be four), which makes more sense.
 

thuway

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Oct 27, 2017
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Reading about the tremendous specs of the RTX series has me a little bummed that AMD is even further behind the curve - and just how much it'll effect our consoles.
 

eathdemon

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Oct 27, 2017
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Reading about the tremendous specs of the RTX series has me a little bummed that AMD is even further behind the curve - and just how much it'll effect our consoles.
I mean the rtx stuff seems like a minor upgrade+ ray tracing. if you care about raytracing sure, I dont, though I am the guy who will take 1080p/144 over 4k 10/10 times
 

CrypticSlayer

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Oct 27, 2017
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It would be amazing if Microsoft surprised everybody and did a Zen CPU with Nvidia GPU. I think they are bold enough to try it, but it's still pretty unlikely.
Brad Sams mentioned that the Scarlett Cloud box will have a chip in it that's built internally and that Hololens will have some internally built components as well. What this makes me wonder is that if that'll transfer over to the next gen Xbox as well.

It's most likely still going to have components from AMD but what if they mix and matched components they're working on internally as well.
 

anexanhume

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Oct 25, 2017
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they wont, but agree that would be cool.
The logic is that they would have been aware of Nvidia's roadmap better than Sony due to their partnership on launching RT features in DirectX. They would understand that leveraging the RT could be seen as a competitive advantage, especially since it's additive and they wouldn't give up rasterization performance.

If they planned a cloud Scarlett all along, they could afford a higher "premium" console launch price caused by using discrete GPU or higher cost due to multiple vendors, all without necessarily ceding market share.
 

eathdemon

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Oct 27, 2017
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The logic is that they would have been aware of Nvidia's roadmap better than Sony due to their partnership on launching RT features in DirectX. They would understand that leveraging the RT could be seen as a competitive advantage, especially since it's additive and they wouldn't give up rasterization performance.

If they planned a cloud Scarlett all along, they could afford a higher "premium" console launch price caused by using discrete GPU or higher cost due to multiple vendors, all without necessarily ceding market share.
would nvidia put rt on low end tech though? roumer has it nothing lower than a 2070 will have the RT tech, it wouldnt just cost more, but a lot more. more than $500 atleast.
 
Feb 10, 2018
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If sony were working with AMD on navi, primarily for the PS5, what would of AMD said to MS in 2016-17 which would of been the time MS would of started to talk to AMD about next gen hardware?
Would they be like sorry, most of our team is working for sony, we can offer you vega at 7nm?
 

eathdemon

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Oct 27, 2017
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If sony were working with AMD on navi, primarily for the PS5, what would of AMD said to MS in 2016-17 which would of been the time MS would of started to talk to AMD about next gen hardware?
Would they be like sorry, most of our team is working for sony, we can offer you vega at 7nm?
if amd was dumb enough to do that, than yes ms would work with Nvidia and get RT.
 

anexanhume

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Oct 25, 2017
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tbf the switch is using a chip in the x1, Nvidia wasnt using for much else after the sheild failed. DF did a tair down, its just a sheild tablet with a custom os and controlers.
And they could easily use low binned chips or just a cut down version without any customization and do their own flavor with the rest of the SoC. Nvidia has no basis to turn down the revenue.

It's already been suggested a die shrink is in the cards for the chip: https://reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/98n2lr/videocardz_leaks_the_code_names_for_turing_gpus/
 

eathdemon

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Oct 27, 2017
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And they could easily use low binned chips or just a cut down version without any customization and do their own flavor with the rest of the SoC. Nvidia has no basis to turn down the revenue.

It's already been suggested a die shrink is in the cards for the chip: https://reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/98n2lr/videocardz_leaks_the_code_names_for_turing_gpus/
couldnt you have made the same argument about intel though? they rejected even bidding b/c margins were too low.
tbc I dont think its likey, though I want it b/c it means the consoles will have real differences.
 

anexanhume

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couldnt you have made the same argument about intel though? they rejected even bidding b/c margins were too low.
tbc I dont think its likey, though I want it b/c it means the consoles will have real differences.
They already made console chips before with the original Xbox, and Intel supposedly pitched Larrabee to console makers. We shouldn't assume we know what financials will entice them to be partners.
 

eathdemon

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They already made console chips before with the original Xbox, and Intel supposedly pitched Larrabee to console makers. We shouldn't assume we know what financials will entice them to be partners.
wasnt Larrabee their x86 gpu attempt? we have turned alot of things in to general compute stuff in the last few decades, I doubt graphics ever will though. not til quantum computers atleast.
 

Nightengale

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Oct 26, 2017
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I've been a 2019 believer since.. whenever I decided to put a flag in predicting it - for the reasons below:

1. The 'length' of the generation. Anecdotally speaking - on the first-party side it was definitely seen that the previous gen was too long. It was 7 years for the PS3->PS4. A PS4->PS5 in 2019 would be 6 years.
2. Symmetry. With PS4 in 2013, PS4 Pro in 2016, and PS5 in 2019, it pegs the 'mid-gen' squarely in the exact middle of the base model and next-gen model, and that sets a good timing precedent for future audiences.
3. The 'cross-gen' reality. Early PS4/XB1 was wrought with many, many games that were available for both generation of consoles, since AAA games are expensive and most 3rd-party publishers will not risk releasing a game strictly for the highest spec consoles. That means even if PS5 and XB2 are released in 2019, there'll be approximately a 2-year maturation period as games transition from cross-gen to next-gen. IMO, cross-gen actually incentives that next-gen consoles are released sooner than later - since it means that the current-gen console base would still be relatively healthy while next-gen transition are going on.
4. Sony's lack of announcements this E3. Say what you want about Sony - they've never been gun-shy at revealing games early. While it's true that TLOU2, GOT and DS could very well be 2020 games, there's actually enough empty space in the 2019-2020 space of games that they could afford one or two announcements but there was none of it even at their biggest stage of the year. IMO, that means that they were not able to - since any game that isn't announced at this point ( AAA-level ) are PS5 only games.
5. The 'success' of the PS4. Unlike some of you, I believe that the success of the PS4 is all the more reason to accelerate the release of the PS5. I believe that the most rational and ideal business execution of the PS5 is not to wait until PS4 is sunsetting in it final year, but to release in the first year of its final 3-years. That way, PS5 will benefit from a relatively mature 2-year cross-gen period where PS4 is still a healthy console rather than one-year good and one-year sluggish. And I definitely think that 2019 will be "Year One" of PS4's final 3 years of significant software support.
6. I don't believe that next-gen console are defined by leaps in hardware technology - but in the best business timing that matches with a significant enough improvement to be able to sell the next flagship box. You need both - and while 2019 might not necessarily be the best timing from a pure technology standpoint, it'll be enough imo - for something that is 8-10x more powerful than base PS4. Enough to sell a generational leap.
7. MID-GEN. DOES. NOT. EXTEND. THE. LENGTH. OF. A. CONSOLE. GENERATION.
 

VallenValiant

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Oct 27, 2017
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There is no technically hardware reason to delay PS5 to 2020 instead of 2019. BUT I am in the 2020 camp purely because of the games; namely, I don't think Sony will have the PS5 first party games ready in time for Christmas 2019.

They are definitely producing PS5 games right now, this is why they can't talk about it. But i doubt ANY of it would be ready next year. And Sony isn't going to release a game console with no first party exclusives, that is madness. PS5 need not just exclusives, but exclusives that showcase the new hardware for what it can do. That is what first party games are for, to convince people to upgrade. Higher specs alone is not enough, even if ERA would buy them for that. Sony want more than hardcore audiences, they want the equivalent of BotW for the Switch. This would not be achieved with just 1 year of production.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I hope for 2020 unless they cannot improve the hardware much with an extra year. We know the CPU will be a massive upgrade right now, but what about the GPU? I want at least 12TF. 20GB of RAM would be great as well, but I'm expecting 16GB.

And make both consoles work properly with SSDs please.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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There is no technically hardware reason to delay PS5 to 2020 instead of 2019. BUT I am in the 2020 camp purely because of the games; namely, I don't think Sony will have the PS5 first party games ready in time for Christmas 2019.

They are definitely producing PS5 games right now, this is why they can't talk about it. But i doubt ANY of it would be ready next year. And Sony isn't going to release a game console with no first party exclusives, that is madness. PS5 need not just exclusives, but exclusives that showcase the new hardware for what it can do. That is what first party games are for, to convince people to upgrade. Higher specs alone is not enough, even if ERA would buy them for that. Sony want more than hardcore audiences, they want the equivalent of BotW for the Switch. This would not be achieved with just 1 year of production.

Explain there is no hardware reason to wait until 2020.
 

VallenValiant

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I hope for 2020 unless they cannot improve the hardware much with an extra year. We know the CPU will be a massive upgrade right now, but what about the GPU? I want at least 12TF. 20GB of RAM would be great as well, but I'm expecting 16GB.

And make both consoles work properly with SSDs please.
An extra year wouldn't improve the specs, it would just lower the announcement price. In any case, SSD hard drive will not come standard, but likely available for upgrade yourself. As for internal cacheing purposes, that is a different matter.

Explain there is no hardware reason to wait until 2020.
Nothing that 2020 will have wouldn't exist in 2019. The only question is supply of parts and costs. But games, well games take longer to make these days, and I doubt Knack 2 is good enough to sell the hardware.

PS4 came out at a time when gamers were thirsty for new hardware. PS5 will need to make a better value argument to get people to buy it.
 

Papacheeks

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Oct 27, 2017
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I've been a 2019 believer since.. whenever I decided to put a flag in predicting it - for the reasons below:

1. The 'length' of the generation. Anecdotally speaking - on the first-party side it was definitely seen that the previous gen was too long. It was 7 years for the PS3->PS4. A PS4->PS5 in 2019 would be 6 years.
2. Symmetry. With PS4 in 2013, PS4 Pro in 2016, and PS5 in 2019, it pegs the 'mid-gen' squarely in the exact middle of the base model and next-gen model, and that sets a good timing precedent for future audiences.
3. The 'cross-gen' reality. Early PS4/XB1 was wrought with many, many games that were available for both generation of consoles, since AAA games are expensive and most 3rd-party publishers will not risk releasing a game strictly for the highest spec consoles. That means even if PS5 and XB2 are released in 2019, there'll be approximately a 2-year maturation period as games transition from cross-gen to next-gen. IMO, cross-gen actually incentives that next-gen consoles are released sooner than later - since it means that the current-gen console base would still be relatively healthy while next-gen transition are going on.
4. Sony's lack of announcements this E3. Say what you want about Sony - they've never been gun-shy at revealing games early. While it's true that TLOU2, GOT and DS could very well be 2020 games, there's actually enough empty space in the 2019-2020 space of games that they could afford one or two announcements but there was none of it even at their biggest stage of the year. IMO, that means that they were not able to - since any game that isn't announced at this point ( AAA-level ) are PS5 only games.
5. The 'success' of the PS4. Unlike some of you, I believe that the success of the PS4 is all the more reason to accelerate the release of the PS5. I believe that the most rational and ideal business execution of the PS5 is not to wait until PS4 is sunsetting in it final year, but to release in the first year of its final 3-years. That way, PS5 will benefit from a relatively mature 2-year cross-gen period where PS4 is still a healthy console rather than one-year good and one-year sluggish. And I definitely think that 2019 will be "Year One" of PS4's final 3 years of significant software support.
6. I don't believe that next-gen console are defined by leaps in hardware technology - but in the best business timing that matches with a significant enough improvement to be able to sell the next flagship box. You need both - and while 2019 might not necessarily be the best timing from a pure technology standpoint, it'll be enough imo - for something that is 8-10x more powerful than base PS4. Enough to sell a generational leap.
7. MID-GEN. DOES. NOT. EXTEND. THE. LENGTH. OF. A. CONSOLE. GENERATION.

Someone Get's it.

Honestly these hardware manufacturing issues that popped up will get ironed out by 2019. I honestly believe these issues with production won't change trajectory. They may change the amount of consoles they launch with in late 2019. Which can be a problem. But that's why having that buffer as you say it helps them. They will still sell PS4'S PS4PRO'S and make a profit on those to help offset PS5 production issues/shortages if thats the case.

Honestly most of 2019's releases will more than likely have PS5 versions, which would make for a amazing lineup if your going to buy a new system.

An extra year wouldn't improve the specs, it would just lower the announcement price. In any case, SSD hard drive will not come standard, but likely available for upgrade yourself. As for internal cacheing purposes, that is a different matter.


Nothing that 2020 will have wouldn't exist in 2019. The only question is supply of parts and costs. But games, well games take longer to make these days, and I doubt Knack 2 is good enough to sell the hardware.

PS4 came out at a time when gamers were thirsty for new hardware. PS5 will need to make a better value argument to get people to buy it.

So launching with Last of us Part 2, Ghosts of Tsushima,Days Gone and running games like that came out in 2018 isn't a stellar lineup. Especially if third party games like Kingdom Hearts 3, Resident evil 2 work or have PS5 versions.

I truly believe that is the sole reason we have not gotten dates on those first party titles yet.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Based on what we already know in terms of AMD roadmaps and the progress of process nodes, Zen 2 and Navi on 7nm will be ready for holiday 2019, but 2020 will not bring any similar leaps. All it will bring is better yields - a 2020 PS5 could be released a year earlier, it would just cost more to make.

OK so you are saying Sony will charge more if the PS5 will release in 2019 or that we will get worse hardware to keep the price down? Those are two different things. I would gladly pay more, but they seem afraid to go over $400 again.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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An extra year wouldn't improve the specs, it would just lower the announcement price. In any case, SSD hard drive will not come standard, but likely available for upgrade yourself. As for internal cacheing purposes, that is a different matter.


Nothing that 2020 will have wouldn't exist in 2019. The only question is supply of parts and costs. But games, well games take longer to make these days, and I doubt Knack 2 is good enough to sell the hardware.

PS4 came out at a time when gamers were thirsty for new hardware. PS5 will need to make a better value argument to get people to buy it.

I already have SSDs. I just want it to work properly in consoles. I know they won't come standard as the price would be way out of line.
 

VallenValiant

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Oct 27, 2017
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So launching with Last of us Part 2, Ghosts of Tsushima,Days Gone and running games like that came out in 2018 isn't a stellar lineup. Especially if third party games like Kingdom Hearts 3, Resident evil 2 work or have PS5 versions.

I truly believe that is the sole reason we have not gotten dates on those first party titles yet.
Everything that is already announced would run on PS4. There is no value argument to upgrade for the average gamer. No, ERA doesn't count, because we saw that PS4Pro is only sold at a ratio of 1 to 4 to regular PS4s. Enthusiasts can't be the only people Sony need to convince to upgrade, Sony NEED to make PS5 exclusives, because Third Party certainly would not. It is Sony's responsibility to make the best exclusives they can, exclusives that REQUIRE a PS5 to run.

I already have SSDs. I just want it to work properly in consoles. I know they won't come standard as the price would be way out of line.
I guess you are talking about how PS4 bottlenecks transfer speeds of installed SSDs? Well I agree with you there, they should allow it somehow in next gen. PS4 has a lot of strange hardware decisions that made sense on release, but had since caused issues several years down the line. We can only hope that Sony future-proof the PS5 a little.
 

WhtR88t

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May 14, 2018
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I am in the 2020 camp purely because of the games; namely, I don't think Sony will have the PS5 first party games ready in time for Christmas 2019.

Im guessing the last few 1st party exclusives will all be totally cross-gen. Maybe 1080p/30 on standard PS4, checkerboard 4k/30 on PS4 Pro, and 4K/60 on PS5 perhaps? All 3rd part games will also be cross gen for the foreseeable future until the install base gets high enough.

I'm not 100% sure if it'll be a good idea to launch with no "exclusive" 1st party PS5 titles, but a lot of stuff will simple be "play it best on PS5" vs requiring a PS5 to play. It's all about buying into the PlayStatiom ecosystem and building of your library now, no more obvious generational cutoffs (especially for things like indies and smaller PSN titles).
 

Kyoufu

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Oct 26, 2017
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At this point I feel like they could get away with cross-gen 1st party games for PS5's launch + the usual wave of 3rd party stuff.

Also PS4 BC just makes it a no-brainer for early adoption.