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XDevil666

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,985
just wondering if someone can simply explain the difference between the versions on the psn sale

Street Fighter 5 @ £8.99
Street fighter 5 arcade edition @ £19.99
Street fighter 5 arcade deluxe @ £34.99
 

-Pyromaniac-

Member
Oct 25, 2017
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Arcade comes with season 1 and 2 characters and arcade deluxe comes with season 3 as well. First one is just base game I believe.
 

Order

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,465
SFV is base game no dlc characters
SFV AE is game with s1 and s2 characters
SFV AE D is game with s1, s2, and s3 characters
 

Omar310

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Oct 27, 2017
1,704
UK
To add on top of what's already been said, no matter what version you buy, you'll get an update to the latest version for free. All those other ones are just for additional doc characters.
 

Deleted member 12186

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Oct 27, 2017
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is it smarter to get AE and use fight money for S3 or get Deluxe? How much fight money and time investment to get one character?
 

ethomaz

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
4,851
Santa Albertina
Base.
Base + Season 1 + Season 2.
Base + Season 1 + Season 2 + Season 3.

The Seasons are only accelerators to unlock the characters faster... you can buy only the base game and unlock all of them.

is it smarter to get AE and use fight money for S3 or get Deluxe? How much fight money and time investment to get one character?
I'm not sure because I have tons of FMs but I believe you can get enough FM for one character in less than 30 minutes.

But I played most modes at launch... I don't know if they changed the FMs for these modes.
 

Sinfamy

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,724
is it smarter to get AE and use fight money for S3 or get Deluxe? How much fight money and time investment to get one character?
Depends what characters you want.
I only play Vega so base game is all I care about.
If a friend comes over who wants a character I don't have unlocked they're buying.
 
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XDevil666

XDevil666

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,985
Cheers guys, so even if I got the base game with without the S1,2,3 characters unlocked I can still unlock them over time without purchase?

Or would I need to purchase the packs to get the players
 

lucebuce

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Oct 25, 2017
22,892
Pakistan
Cheers guys, so even if I got the base game with without the S1,2,3 characters unlocked I can still unlock them over time without purchase?

Or would I need to purchase the packs to get the players
All the DLC characters can be purchased with in-game currency called FM.

You can easily get upto 3 characters of your choosing with FM but after that, you'll need to rely on the weekly missions to get a steady flow of FM coming in.
 

Joe2187

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,521
Cheers guys, so even if I got the base game with without the S1,2,3 characters unlocked I can still unlock them over time without purchase?

Or would I need to purchase the packs to get the players

You could get em all for free, but that would require you to grind a ton....

The Deluxe edition is pretty cheap and with all the FM you get with all 3 seasons worth of characters you can spend the rest of that FM on costumes and stages and whatnot. They have special themed costumes you can get for free with FM every month or so.
 

Footos22

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Oct 25, 2017
3,774
Yeah as said above you can get nearly 3 characters with FM from the sp modes but after that it's a slow grind. You only get 50fm from a ranked win and you get 1000 each time you level a character up. It's very slow going. You get 8k from every character story I believe so that's 24k from unlocking the other 3.
 

Joe2187

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,521
With base game how much playtime needed for S1-3 characters?

With the changes made during AE for fight money gain to encourage more people to play the Extra Battle modes you dont get FM for story modes and survival mode anymore but from doing challanges and leveling characters. You can get nearly 30K though just from watching demonstrations and 5K each from doing each characters story, and another 6K for doing easy-normal survival with each.

It will take a while but you can unlock your first character within a half hour and then keep going for the 2nd and 3rd within two hours....but after that it's gonna be a while.
 

Teasing_Pink

Member
Oct 25, 2017
256
With base game how much playtime needed for S1-3 characters?
Street Fighter VI will be probably be out before you grind the 2,400,000 fight money required. And that's just characters, not stages, alternate costumes, or even alternate colors. Nearly everything can be bought with cash instead of fight money, so fight money prices for everything are extremely high, and the earning rate extremely slow.

Fight money exists as an excuse to put "Earn everything for free" on the back of the box. It's not remotely realistic to do so, even if you play SFV like a job.
 

LakeEarth

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Oct 27, 2017
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The game was changed to make FM generation really slow going, so I would recommend the one with some of the season passes. If you get the base version, at least getting the season 1 pass when it's on sale.
 

jett

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Oct 25, 2017
44,659
Cheers guys, so even if I got the base game with without the S1,2,3 characters unlocked I can still unlock them over time without purchase?

Or would I need to purchase the packs to get the players
At this point it will be virtually impossible to unlock all 18 DLC characters with fight money.

I suggest getting at least Arcade Edition, or AE+S3. Only get the base version if you're not all that interested in the DLC characters.
 

Neoxon

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Oct 25, 2017
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If I were you, I'd just get the Deluxe Edition & stock-pile enough Fight Money for the next (last?) 2 seasons of characters. In my case, I just buy the characters & use Fight Money for stages & the occasional story costume, but that's just me.
 

FluxWaveZ

Persona Central
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Oct 25, 2017
10,890
Fight money exists as an excuse to put "Earn everything for free" on the back of the box. It's not remotely realistic to do so, even if you play SFV like a job.
Not true. Mine:

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It's different after the release of AE, though, but getting most of the content aside from alternate costumes for free is something many have done.
 

C++

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Aug 2, 2018
216
Arcade Edition(not deluxe) is way to go.
Cheaper and you can get 3 characters pretty easy.
 

Dark Ninja

Member
Oct 27, 2017
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I would get the Deluxe version if its that cheap. You can then have enough FM to play around with if you want to get costumes and other stuff. There are still more seasons left so you can then decide if you have the time to earn enough FM to unlock them or just pay for them.
 

FluxWaveZ

Persona Central
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Oct 25, 2017
10,890
You can't get that much anymore though like you said, so his point is still valid.
It just bothers me when people have said the same even since the game came out, when it just wasn't true. Now, saying that it's not realistic is totally valid: they completely gutted the FM system, and people really can't get all of the characters and such for free anymore, especially if they're jumping in for the first time.
 
It just bothers me when people have said the same even since the game came out, when it just wasn't true. Now, saying that it's not realistic is totally valid: they completely gutted the FM system, and people really can't get all of the characters and such for free anymore, especially if they're jumping in for the first time.
You're also grand master rank which is not a realistic goal for most people. Personally I'd recommend people buy as many characters they can with real money and just use fm for stages.
 

FluxWaveZ

Persona Central
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Oct 25, 2017
10,890
You're also grand master rank which is not a realistic goal for most people. Personally I'd recommend people buy as many characters they can with real money and just use fm for stages.
Grand Master or rank has nothing to do with it. The majority of the FM I made just came from Survival mode and logging in and doing the missions (before they cut the reward in half) which take 2 minutes to do. Even now, there was about 16k FM anyone could get by cheesing the gold soldiers, which expired yesterday.

There was one time where they doubled the amount of FM players made by winning matches two years ago, but they never repeated it after. For players just getting in now, the FM system is pretty bad, and it's not like grinding 50 FM per win for a bunch of characters is realistic.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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If it's on sale I'd go for deluxe. I used to be a big defender of FM and I got 2 seasons of characters for free easily but after the changes to the FM system that came with AE, just spending the money is the more reasonable route for most people.
 

ryan13ts

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Oct 28, 2017
2,102
It just bothers me when people have said the same even since the game came out, when it just wasn't true. Now, saying that it's not realistic is totally valid: they completely gutted the FM system, and people really can't get all of the characters and such for free anymore, especially if they're jumping in for the first time.

I'm really surprised more people havent made a bigger deal out of what Capcom did to the FM system. They basically screwed players over and used the age old "We made it better and did it for you!" excuse while doing it. Not only did they slash the weekly and match FM totals, they took away some of the FM bonuses you got from certain activities and added more things they eat through FM while not adding anything to compensate. Sorry, I don't count those extremely infrequent Shadaloo Soldiers as being anywhere near compensation for what they took away, especially since you only get 3 shots, you can fail them while still costing FM, and they rarely even run them in the first place.

The pre-arcade edition system was actually very fair and gave you ample chance to get characters for free as long as you were playing, which is why I suspect they gutted it since it was benefiting players and not Capcom enough.

All that said, OP would be best off just getting Deluxe Edition at this point if he wants everything, since theres no way to get all DLC with the base game if you're new at this point. Regular AE is an option though, you'll get S1 and S2 DLC and if you do all trials, you'd maybe have enough to get a free character or two from S3. I'd still go the deluxe route though, since you can do trials and save that FM for Extra Battle Costumes or even the eventual S4 DLC (You'll want the extra FM, trust me).
 

jett

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm really surprised more people havent made a bigger deal out of what Capcom did to the FM system. They basically screwed players over and used the age old "We made it better and did it for you!" excuse while doing it. Not only did they slash the weekly and match FM totals, they took away some of the FM bonuses you got from certain activities and added more things they eat through FM while not adding anything to compensate. Sorry, I don't count those extremely infrequent Shadaloo Soldiers as being anywhere near compensation for what they took away, especially since you only get 3 shots, you can fail them while still costing FM, and they rarely even run them in the first place.

The pre-arcade edition system was actually very fair and gave you ample chance to get characters for free as long as you were playing, which is why I suspect they gutted it since it was benefiting players and not Capcom enough.

All that said, OP would be best off just getting Deluxe Edition at this point if he wants everything, since theres no way to get all DLC with the base game if you're new at this point. Regular AE is an option though, you'll get S1 and S2 DLC and if you do all trials, you'd maybe have enough to get a free character or two from S3. I'd still go the deluxe route though, since you can do trials and save that FM for Extra Battle Costumes or even the eventual S4 DLC (You'll want the extra FM, trust me).

The Arcade Edition release is the reason they nerfed how to get FM. If things had stayed the same, with the amount of content available to them new owners would've been able to get over a million FM in a day or two, while the rest of us had acquired that stuff slowly over a year or two. Financially it made no sense for Capcom to keep things as they are, it would've broken their DLC model.

Chopping the weeklies in a half is a shit move though, although it's compensated a tad by the golden shadaloo soldiers, which are super easy to cheese with Rashido. Still, a shit move. I think so far in 2018 I've gotten about 200K~250K FM.
 

sibarraz

Prophet of Regret - One Winged Slayer
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Oct 27, 2017
18,108
Question, is worthy to make the time limited battles to earn costumes if you already missed the first 2 weeks? I heard that those quests return after some time, but don't know if I win a gem today, is going to carry the next time that the event returns
 

Korigama

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Oct 25, 2017
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Chopping the weeklies in a half is a shit move though, although it's compensated a tad by the golden shadaloo soldiers, which are super easy to cheese with Rashido.
Unless you have crap luck and/or scrub out like me and fail all three tries granted for it because they learned how to block (cheesing them with him actually worked all three times I did it the first week I participated, too).
 

ryan13ts

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Oct 28, 2017
2,102
The Arcade Edition release is the reason they nerfed how to get FM. If things had stayed the same, with the amount of content available to them new owners would've been able to get over a million FM in a day or two, while the rest of us had acquired that stuff slowly over a year or two. Financially it made no sense for Capcom to keep things as they are, it would've broken their DLC model.

Chopping the weeklies in a half is a shit move though, although it's compensated a tad by the golden shadaloo soldiers, which are super easy to cheese with Rashido. Still, a shit move. I think so far in 2018 I've gotten about 200K~250K FM.

That's something they should have foreseen long before the game even came out. If they planned on supporting the game to 2020 like they said, with DLC presumably coming out each year, they should have been able to add up how much FM existing and new players would accrue during the later years. Instead, when it looks like its going to be detrimental to them, they pull the rug on a system they had established for years, give us a shitty substitute while actually gouging us even more on FM than before (With Extra Battle and Fighting chance now) and try to pass it off as all this being for the benefit of the "community". Forget that. I'd be more satisfied if they were just honest and said "people are getting too much free stuff and it's hurting us" than trying to pull the usual corporate spin.

What makes this all the worse to me though, is that it's very clear that not only are they trying to cut back what FM existing and new players are getting, but they're actively trying to get players to burn through FM that they amassed through the old system. New costumes are great, but the way they implemented getting them is beyond suspect. The frequency of having to play each week for a gem, while shelling out 2,500 FM for 4 weeks (That's if you don't mess up) to get just one costume (Not to mention some weeks there are up to 3) make it so blatantly clear they're trying to get players to to use all their FM they earned, in a kind of crappy way. They're basically dangling a carrot in our face in hopes that we'll waste what we earned, especially since lots Day 1 players still have lots of FM, which means less DLC sales for them. They are a business, I get it, but don't put something in place that is actually pretty well received, only to yank it back when it doesn't look like you're not making as much money as you hoped and replace it with a system that actively cuts totals and raises costs, while encouraging more spending.

I've talked to tons of players that feel similarly so I know I'm not the only one that has issues with what they've done to the FM system since AE.
 

cyba89

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Oct 25, 2017
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Personally I buy the season passes with real money and invest the fight money in stages and costumes.
If you don't care for that stuff you best buy the Arcade Edition and buy the Season 3 characters with fight money (although you won't get all of them easily that way).

No you can't. I got this game at launch and still haven't managed to unlock a single character.

Have you actually played the game though?
 
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Kirblar

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
30,744
Cheers guys, so even if I got the base game with without the S1,2,3 characters unlocked I can still unlock them over time without purchase?

Or would I need to purchase the packs to get the players
Buying season passes is really the way to go, the cosmetic stuff is relatively cheap compared to characters.

And that's a good price on the Deluxe version.
 

Yurinka

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
1,457
just wondering if someone can simply explain the difference between the versions on the psn sale

Street Fighter 5 @ £8.99
Street fighter 5 arcade edition @ £19.99
Street fighter 5 arcade deluxe @ £34.99

I'd suggest you to go for the Deluxe version and to spend all FM earned to unlock other stuff like costumes, colors, stages, extra battles, continues in survival mode and so on.

At launch SF5 had many flaws and missing stuff but now it has a lot of content, and even more with the extra characters. £34.99 is a great deal for the best fighting game of the generation + 3 season passes (each one include 6 characters, some costumes and colors for them and some extra perks).

If you go for SFV vanilla and don't want to unlock all characters by playing you can also buy later the season pass 1, 2 and 3. But I think it will be more expensive than to buy now the Deluxe Edition. £34.99 is so cheap for such a great game and a lot of content, get Deluxe instead of vanilla because more than unlocking characters you'll save a lot to unlock the colors and costumes also included in these 3 season passes.

This means you didn't played the game at all, or at least in the single player modes that is where you get almost all FM. At least before they nerfed the FM in the Arcade Edition release in less than 10 hours you were able to get more than a season pass with almost no difficulty.

Complete the story mode in normal and extra difficulty (around 1 or 2 hours each round), complete all the character prologues (less than 5 min. each), see all the demonstrations (maybe like 10 min for all, don't need to watch them complete to get FM), complete the survival in easy and normal with all characters, spam Rashid's eagle kick special attack on most the shadaloo soldiers of extra battle when available. With this you'll get a ton of FM with almost zero difficulty.

If you have some skill you can also complete survival in hard and above, complete the trials for some character, or win many battles in ranked since with every some matches won in ranked you'll get 50FM and every some wins with the same character you'll level up so you'll get 1000FM more.

If you buy the CPT DLC to support the tournaments, in addition to a few costumes and a stadium stage they also include CPT DLC only monthly missions during a certain period of time to earn a great chunk of extra FM.

From time to time in bit CPT events they also gave away FM for people who were watching the events.

I earned above 1.5 million FM and I'm not very skilled, and only played a few dozens of hours.
 
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Jawmuncher

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Murkas

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I'm guessing you only played it a few times since launch because you've unlocked one easy trophy in 2016 then didn't manage the win 10/30 ranked matches trophy until 2018. So yes, playing 1 ranked match a month probably won't earn you enough FM.


Nice shitpost.
 

jett

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Oct 25, 2017
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lol

All your picture shows is that you don't play the game. If you had just completed a few characters stories, trials and easy survivals you'd have more than enough. Completely the cinematic story mode used to give you like 70K or something like that.

That's something they should have foreseen long before the game even came out. If they planned on supporting the game to 2020 like they said, with DLC presumably coming out each year, they should have been able to add up how much FM existing and new players would accrue during the later years. Instead, when it looks like its going to be detrimental to them, they pull the rug on a system they had established for years, give us a shitty substitute while actually gouging us even more on FM than before (With Extra Battle and Fighting chance now) and try to pass it off as all this being for the benefit of the "community". Forget that. I'd be more satisfied if they were just honest and said "people are getting too much free stuff and it's hurting us" than trying to pull the usual corporate spin.

What makes this all the worse to me though, is that it's very clear that not only are they trying to cut back what FM existing and new players are getting, but they're actively trying to get players to burn through FM that they amassed through the old system. New costumes are great, but the way they implemented getting them is beyond suspect. The frequency of having to play each week for a gem, while shelling out 2,500 FM for 4 weeks (That's if you don't mess up) to get just one costume (Not to mention some weeks there are up to 3) make it so blatantly clear they're trying to get players to to use all their FM they earned, in a kind of crappy way. They're basically dangling a carrot in our face in hopes that we'll waste what we earned, especially since lots Day 1 players still have lots of FM, which means less DLC sales for them. They are a business, I get it, but don't put something in place that is actually pretty well received, only to yank it back when it doesn't look like you're not making as much money as you hoped and replace it with a system that actively cuts totals and raises costs, while encouraging more spending.

I've talked to tons of players that feel similarly so I know I'm not the only one that has issues with what they've done to the FM system since AE.

I agree that they seemingly didn't plan ahead. I can't really defend what they have in place right now. Honestly I don't care for the additions they have made to the game from a FM point of view either.

BTW, FM was never well received. It was shat on from day one. For some reason.