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Jaded Alyx

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I don't see how he could be only talking about the US when he specifically mentions the 20m figure, which is global.

Did he mean they're at 8 million so far this f. Year?
 

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A moron with access to way more data and sales figures than we do. But yeah he must be...lying or something? Because of reasons?

Some of y'all need to learn how to take bad Nintendo news gracefully.

This isn't bad news, this is bad speculation coming from a bad analyst.
 
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I just listened to it. You guys need to get your ears cleaned. He very clearly says, "They're tracking two eight million." That's 28 million. Congrats on your upcoming huge success Nintendo!
 

Rand a. Thor

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This is a Smash/Pokémon Year. With Diablo and other 3rd Part surprises hitting. In the same year that their premium online service is launching. With almost 500k in Japan Alone. Again, in a Smash/Pokémon year. 8mil as a highball is fucking laughable.
 

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He only says it's currently tracking which means what numbers he has seen now. That's not his personal prediction on what it could sell.
 
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A moron with access to way more data and sales figures than we do. But yeah he must be...lying or something? Because of reasons?

Some of y'all need to learn how to take bad Nintendo news gracefully.

Except an analysts prediction isn't "bad news"...not to mention thinking it'll only sell 8 million is absurd.
 
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I think the fact Switch sold 17 million in its first fiscal year should raise alarm bells for anybody who thinks 8 million (a 50% drop off) is remotely reasonable considering the momentum of the system and the two bombshells releasing this holiday.
 

Gotdatmoney

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Okay, I listened to it, he is definitely talking about worldwide. In that case, dude is wrong. Plain and simple, Nintendo will ship more than 8 million in Q3 alone. What is this dude talking about?
 

K Samedi

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Nintendo shipped around 2 million Q1 so he probably multiplied by 4 and said its tracking to 8 million to make some kind of point.
 

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To my knowledge Pachter is an Gaming Industry Analyst, so my question to the people of Era is if this assessment is sound ?
Last I heard, Pachter was no such thing. He is indeed a financial analyst, but his job is NOT focused on gaming. The entire reason he publicly comments on gaming is because it isn't his real job. If you wanted to know his analysis for his actual professional focus, you'd have to hire his company and pay him.
 

Saint-14

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With all respect to the dude but how can he be so wrong about something that even a poster on Era can tell it will do much more than that?
 

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It's tracking "to" 8m. Based on what numbers he's seen atm. It's not a prediction.

What does it mean ? That it is tracking to sell 8 millions ? Meaning that he saw the current numbers (that we have at disposition by the way) and estimated that it would sell 8 million by March 31st ? It is also virtually impossible.
 

Jaded Alyx

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Do you recall what they looked like originally? I find the analysis of this version a little off myself, and the charts don't read great to me but they're still understandable.
mario_kart_pie_chart.jpg
 

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To my knowledge Pachter is an Gaming Industry Analyst, so my question to the people of Era is if this assessment is sound ?
He's a financial analyst but not a games one. Games are something he sort of does on the side and his comments on games analysis should never be taken 100% seriously as he more often than not, gets things totally wrong.
 

jariw

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It's tracking "to" 8m. Based on what numbers he's seen atm. It's not a prediction.

But why would he apply linear growth to a Nintendo console, when Nintendo regularly sells around 50% of their yearly HW stock during Q3 of the fiscal year? Is there any console maker who display a linear growth during their fiscal year?
 

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If he means US, that sounds about right. If he means worldwide, he's being a complete dunce.
He means ww, mentioned the 20 milion. Personally believing Pachter in anything non-Sony related is pretty much useless: he has proven to be very bias towards them - I have read in spanish videogame websites that he holds Sony stock, not sure if it is true, but if true it gives him a reason to bash Microsoft and Nintendo.

Furthermore, he is a Nintendo hater as well, so obviously whenever he can he will bash Nintendo. Other analyst hate Nintendo too, so this is nothing surprising. I mean, there were people predicting the Switch will sell like 3 milion in its first year.
 

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If that's for the US market that seems fair. If that is the world wide number then I am really curious why Patcher thinks Pokémon and Smash during the holiday season would not be a big hit.
 

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Didn't first quarter of this FY do like 2 million units? Sounds like he took that and said, 2m × 4 = 8 million and didn't bother to account for seasonal changes or big upcoming releases.
 

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But why would he apply linear growth to a Nintendo console, when Nintendo regularly sells around 50% of their yearly HW stock during Q3 of the fiscal year? Is there any console maker who display a linear growth during their fiscal year?
Why would any console maker have linear growth during the holiday?
 

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So, if we apply Pachter's Antinostradamus Law Switch is going to sell 20M or close. Thanks Michael. :P
 

Parshias

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Knowing that sales change across quarters should be elementary level stuff here.

Its like looking at pumpkin sales in April and then just multiplying that shit by 12 to get a prediction for the entire year's sales.
 
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Are we sure he said 8 and not "18" ? It'd make more sense. Can't watch the video right now.

I listened to it again, and i am 99% sure he said 8 million.
But maybe he meant 18 ?

Though if he did his follow up sentence does not make much sense, since he followed the 8 million up by saying they will miss the 20m prediction by "a mile".
 
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