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Fantasy Football Discussion Thread - 2018 Season

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The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
15,354
Kitchener, ON
NYR said:
I hope someone posts a thread for No Quitters or makes this thread the defacto, I didn't see any of those Yahoo messages until today.
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Just a heads up that the new season thread is live. I'll be updating this thread's opening post to include a link to the league thread.
I'll be updating it for other leagues that get set up here as well so it can be used as an easy go-to resource for any and all active Resetera leagues.
 
brownmagic

brownmagic

Member
Oct 25, 2017
505
Am I crazy or are AJ Green, Mike Evans, Jordan Howard being undervalued in PPR? I know they didn't have the best seasons last year but can't argue against the talent right?
 
Smurf

Smurf

Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,582
brownmagic said:
Am I crazy or are AJ Green, Mike Evans, Jordan Howard being undervalued in PPR? I know they didn't have the best seasons last year but can't argue against the talent right?
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WRs had a down season last year, so they are overall being undervalued imo.

Howard is just an awful pass catcher, think he dropped something like 20% of his passes, so he takes a dip in PPR. Rumors out there he is catching like 300 balls every day after practice tho
 

ZoronMaro

Member
Oct 30, 2017
525
Commish opened the family league up last night, so I looking to my support group for draft help. Last year I had never played fantasy sports before, but I got a big kick out of winning my league despite knowing nothing about sports, which probably because I was complaining and asking for help here every week

Knowing about tier lists for drafting helped a lot I think. Last year someone posted a super helpful web tool that listed all the tier lists by position on a single screen, and you could click on players as they were picked to see what's left in each position and what you should go for next. Really made drafting was easier, does anyone know what that site was?

E: nevermind it was this: https://jayzheng.com/ff/
 
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PillarEN

PillarEN

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,118
Picking 7th (out of 12) this year in half PPR. I'm guessing Kamara or D Hopkins will fall to me as my first pick. Which, good.
 
EJS

EJS

The Fallen
The Fallen
Oct 31, 2017
9,186
Looks like I'll be picking between DJ, Brown, or Elliot at 3 overall in my ppr league. I am thinking DJ.
 
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The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
15,354
Kitchener, ON
Just a quick heads up reminder that the No Quitters cash league has an open and active waiting list for people interested in joining.
Show your interest by chiming in with a quick post in the league's official OT at the following link.

As of right now, we're likely to be drafting on the evening of August 26th. We presently have three open slots but it's not uncommon for folks far down the waiting list to land an invite as current and prospective owners drop out due to conflicts as we approach draft day.
 
Bigkrev

Bigkrev

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Oct 25, 2017
12,309
So for the first time in 10 years, I am going to completely miss my in-person draft this year, because i'll be on vacation. It's done on a paper board and later entered into yahoo, so doing it from my phone isn't an option, and I will be out and about during the actual draft, so even if i'm getting text messages about the draft, I won't have any materials on me. My commishioner said I could send him my top 50 players (12 team league, so my first 4 round picks) and some stipulations, but otherwise i'll be autodrafted from the top 300 list of Yahoo when my turn comes up (he uses that to track who's been taken). I need some help coming up with stipulations. The ones I already have are

-Do not draft any players who are suspended any amount of time or who are already injured and will miss week 1 (I don't want to deal with Roster construction issues on vacation)
-Unless I get Aaron Rodgers in the first 4 rounds, do not draft a QB for me until at least 8 other teams have a QB
-Unless I get Gronk in the first 4 rounds, do not draft a TE for me until 8 other TE have come off the board
-Do not draft me a defense until the 14th round (and make it the stealers or Washington if they are avalible- I just stream Def every week anyway, and they have great week 1 matchups)
-Do not draft me a kicker until the 15th round

Any other ideas for stipulations?
 
Smurf

Smurf

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Oct 25, 2017
26,582
Scar said:
Any risers or fallers?

Week 2 starts tonight!

Superbowl rematch....kinda.
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rising: Chris Carson, Luck, Marquise Goodwin, T.Y. Hilton
falling: Penny, Mack, Sony Michel, Jeffery, Baldwin

Bigkrev said:
So for the first time in 10 years, I am going to completely miss my in-person draft this year, because i'll be on vacation. It's done on a paper board and later entered into yahoo, so doing it from my phone isn't an option, and I will be out and about during the actual draft, so even if i'm getting text messages about the draft, I won't have any materials on me. My commishioner said I could send him my top 50 players (12 team league, so my first 4 round picks) and some stipulations, but otherwise i'll be autodrafted from the top 300 list of Yahoo when my turn comes up (he uses that to track who's been taken). I need some help coming up with stipulations. The ones I already have are

-Do not draft any players who are suspended any amount of time or who are already injured and will miss week 1 (I don't want to deal with Roster construction issues on vacation)
-Unless I get Aaron Rodgers in the first 4 rounds, do not draft a QB for me until at least 8 other teams have a QB
-Unless I get Gronk in the first 4 rounds, do not draft a TE for me until 8 other TE have come off the board
-Do not draft me a defense until the 14th round (and make it the stealers or Washington if they are avalible- I just stream Def every week anyway, and they have great week 1 matchups)
-Do not draft me a kicker until the 15th round

Any other ideas for stipulations?
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damn

Can't you Skype in or ask someone to keep an updated spreadsheet or something?

If not, I think tier based rankings will be your best option. This way you don't have to worry they draft a QB too soon or overloads you in a certain position.
 
I Don't Like

I Don't Like

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Dec 11, 2017
14,907
Got convinced to join a keeper, salary cap, defense league to replace some bum who got booted and I'm already regretting it.

First, this team I inherited is a bunch of fucking scrubs. The QBs are Stafford and Flacco lol. Second, keeps are two offensive and two defensive players so I'm already at a disadvantage in the draft. I do have the 2nd overall pick at least.

Plus it's just extra work compared to the simple leagues I was in previous years. I'll do at least one of those in addition to this one so I'm not hating my fantasy season because I have a feeling I will.
 
grang

grang

Member
Nov 13, 2017
10,066
Figured I'd repost about the free Fantasy Team Advice leagues since apparently today is the last day to register. These are long form drafts where you have 6 hours to make your pick and are expected to post in the forum with analysis on why you chose who you chose. 14 team, 0.5 PPR, 3WR league. These leagues get very deep, by the end you're picking the third or fourth WR/RB option on a given team.

League winners get a minimum $40, and again, it's free to enter. Looks like they're trying to fill a couple more today.

https://fantasyteamadvice.com/forums/topic/5568-fta-ffl-rules/
 
The Albatross

The Albatross

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Oct 25, 2017
39,010
Okay so I've got an interesting quandary.

My league is going advanced football metrics this year and we've reduced our PPR bonus to 0.5 (From 1 PPR), and then added a PPFD (points per first down) at 0.5. We want to try it out and it sounds like something that'll help add value to backs who have generally become undervalued over the last 5-10 years of the PPR boom. Here's a Ringer article breaking down PPFD. If anything, it'll just add another scoring wrinkle to games and we really like that... Some excitement in a fantasy game being decided by a player getting stopped 1 yard short of key first down, or your player stretches out for a 1st down and you get some added value for that extra effort.

We have a 1 player keeper league, where you lose the round that you drafted that player in the previous season (with a max of losing a 5th round pick).

My realistic/strategic keeper options are:
  • Leonard Fournette
    Losing a 2nd round pick.
    ADP: #12 (last pick of the first round for us)
  • Joe Mixon
    Losing a 4th round pick.
    ADP: #23 (2nd to last pick of the 2nd round for us)
I've got some other value picks, like Larry Fitzgerald who is going as the 35 ADP (Round 2, Pick 11), and I would give up a 5th round pick for him, or Evan Engram where I'd lose a 5th and he's going in the 5th, I've also got other high value talent (AJ Green for instance) but the draft pick I'd lose doesn't make sense to keep them... but I'm really stumped between Fournette and Mixon.

Points Per First down throws an interesting wrinkle into this, as well as reducing the PPR value.

So...

Leonard Fournette in 2017 had a standard scoring value of #10 overall. But if you add 1PPR to the mix, then his value drops considerably, from #10 overall to #19. So, given that we're halving the value of PPR from 1 to 0.5, then Fournette suddenly becomes more valuable in our league. And then, with PPFD, Fournette actually stays flat, he's got an overall #10 in standard, and he's overall #10 in PPFD as well.

Joe Mixon, in 2017, had a standard scoring value of #65. If you add in 1PPR, he dropped significantly down to #86, but with PPFD, his value jumps from #65 to #60. Mixon is also going high in a lot of leagues and seems like a high value fantasy option this year.

So... I'm leaning towards keeping Mixon and giving up a 4th round pick for him. But, I want to know if I'm crazy or not.
 
Smurf

Smurf

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Oct 25, 2017
26,582
The Albatross said:
Okay so I've got an interesting quandary.

My league is going advanced football metrics this year and we've reduced our PPR bonus to 0.5 (From 1 PPR), and then added a PPFD (points per first down) at 0.5. We want to try it out and it sounds like something that'll help add value to backs who have generally become undervalued over the last 5-10 years of the PPR boom. Here's a Ringer article breaking down PPFD. If anything, it'll just add another scoring wrinkle to games and we really like that... Some excitement in a fantasy game being decided by a player getting stopped 1 yard short of key first down, or your player stretches out for a 1st down and you get some added value for that extra effort.

We have a 1 player keeper league, where you lose the round that you drafted that player in the previous season (with a max of losing a 5th round pick).

My realistic/strategic keeper options are:
  • Leonard Fournette
    Losing a 2nd round pick.
    ADP: #12 (last pick of the first round for us)
  • Joe Mixon
    Losing a 4th round pick.
    ADP: #23 (2nd to last pick of the 2nd round for us)
I've got some other value picks, like Larry Fitzgerald who is going as the 35 ADP (Round 2, Pick 11), and I would give up a 5th round pick for him, or Evan Engram where I'd lose a 5th and he's going in the 5th, I've also got other high value talent (AJ Green for instance) but the draft pick I'd lose doesn't make sense to keep them... but I'm really stumped between Fournette and Mixon.

Points Per First down throws an interesting wrinkle into this, as well as reducing the PPR value.

So...

Leonard Fournette in 2017 had a standard scoring value of #10 overall. But if you add 1PPR to the mix, then his value drops considerably, from #10 overall to #19. So, given that we're halving the value of PPR from 1 to 0.5, then Fournette suddenly becomes more valuable in our league. And then, with PPFD, Fournette actually stays flat, he's got an overall #10 in standard, and he's overall #10 in PPFD as well.

Joe Mixon, in 2017, had a standard scoring value of #65. If you add in 1PPR, he dropped significantly down to #86, but with PPFD, his value jumps from #65 to #60. Mixon is also going high in a lot of leagues and seems like a high value fantasy option this year.

So... I'm leaning towards keeping Mixon and giving up a 4th round pick for him. But, I want to know if I'm crazy or not.
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I think that depends on what you think of Mixon this season, some people see him as a value at his current ADP, others as a trap. But its either him or Fitz.
 
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grang

grang

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Nov 13, 2017
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The Albatross said:
Okay so I've got an interesting quandary.

My league is going advanced football metrics this year and we've reduced our PPR bonus to 0.5 (From 1 PPR), and then added a PPFD (points per first down) at 0.5. We want to try it out and it sounds like something that'll help add value to backs who have generally become undervalued over the last 5-10 years of the PPR boom. Here's a Ringer article breaking down PPFD. If anything, it'll just add another scoring wrinkle to games and we really like that... Some excitement in a fantasy game being decided by a player getting stopped 1 yard short of key first down, or your player stretches out for a 1st down and you get some added value for that extra effort.

We have a 1 player keeper league, where you lose the round that you drafted that player in the previous season (with a max of losing a 5th round pick).

My realistic/strategic keeper options are:
  • Leonard Fournette
    Losing a 2nd round pick.
    ADP: #12 (last pick of the first round for us)
  • Joe Mixon
    Losing a 4th round pick.
    ADP: #23 (2nd to last pick of the 2nd round for us)
I've got some other value picks, like Larry Fitzgerald who is going as the 35 ADP (Round 2, Pick 11), and I would give up a 5th round pick for him, or Evan Engram where I'd lose a 5th and he's going in the 5th, I've also got other high value talent (AJ Green for instance) but the draft pick I'd lose doesn't make sense to keep them... but I'm really stumped between Fournette and Mixon.

Points Per First down throws an interesting wrinkle into this, as well as reducing the PPR value.

So...

Leonard Fournette in 2017 had a standard scoring value of #10 overall. But if you add 1PPR to the mix, then his value drops considerably, from #10 overall to #19. So, given that we're halving the value of PPR from 1 to 0.5, then Fournette suddenly becomes more valuable in our league. And then, with PPFD, Fournette actually stays flat, he's got an overall #10 in standard, and he's overall #10 in PPFD as well.

Joe Mixon, in 2017, had a standard scoring value of #65. If you add in 1PPR, he dropped significantly down to #86, but with PPFD, his value jumps from #65 to #60. Mixon is also going high in a lot of leagues and seems like a high value fantasy option this year.

So... I'm leaning towards keeping Mixon and giving up a 4th round pick for him. But, I want to know if I'm crazy or not.
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What pick do you have?
 
Firewithin

Firewithin

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
4,431
Orange County
I have my first draft tomorrow night. Done hardly any studying but with my league and most everyone whose most time goes to work or family everybody is in the same boat at least. Guess thats what happens when a league is 15yrs old :p
 
The Albatross

The Albatross

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Oct 25, 2017
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The Albatross

The Albatross

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39,010
Allyougame said:
I would stick with workhorse back Fournette personally, but if you're sold on a slimmer Mixon as well as OC Bill Lazor having his first full season to install his offense and call plays, do you.
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Oh shit Bill Lazor is the OC in CIncinatti?

IM ALL IN ON MIXON. I have a hardon for all shitty gimmick players, coaches, and OCs in the league, and BIll LAzor is one of my boys.
 
Andokuky

Andokuky

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
721
I have the second pick in a big money league and I know the #1 guy is going Zeke. I'm torn between Bell and David Johnson at #2. They'll both get insane usage. They're both in contract years and looking to get big deals. I had Johnson in 2016 and he scored like 20 touchdowns.

I'm hesitant about Bell because he's been used a ton he last few years and I worry about him breaking down. Plus I know they have a new OC, and they have a ton of weapons in Pittsburgh. I'm hesitant on Johnson because they'll be starting a rookie QB once Bradford inevitably gets hurt, and their offensive line is pretty poor. But bummish QB and OL play hasn't stopped him in the past.

I don't believe Gurley will repeat some of his monster numbers, especially the receiving touchdowns, so it's between these two. What would you guys do?
 
Smurf

Smurf

Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,582
Andokuky said:
I have the second pick in a big money league and I know the #1 guy is going Zeke. I'm torn between Bell and David Johnson at #2. They'll both get insane usage. They're both in contract years and looking to get big deals. I had Johnson in 2016 and he scored like 20 touchdowns.

I'm hesitant about Bell because he's been used a ton he last few years and I worry about him breaking down. Plus I know they have a new OC, and they have a ton of weapons in Pittsburgh. I'm hesitant on Johnson because they'll be starting a rookie QB once Bradford inevitably gets hurt, and their offensive line is pretty poor. But bummish QB and OL play hasn't stopped him in the past.

I don't believe Gurley will repeat some of his monster numbers, especially the receiving touchdowns, so it's between these two. What would you guys do?
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You can't go wrong with any of the 3, the question is, what are looking for, you wanna try to get the top scorer or the guy that is the safest option? I personally would go with Gurley, for basically the reasons you talked about DJ and Bell.
 
natjjohn

natjjohn

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,536
Curious as brought up on GAF before and nobody else seemed to do. So in my main money leagues, we bid for spots and then it's NFL style draft. So if throw out a low bid and get last pick, you pick last every round. Vice versa too (top bid, pick first every round). Can't imagine doing it any other way. Anybody else do this? I view snake drafts as like family league, low stakes stuff.
 
natjjohn

natjjohn

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Oct 25, 2017
3,536
natjjohn said:
Curious as brought up on GAF before and nobody else seemed to do. So in my main money leagues, we bid for spots and then it's NFL style draft. So if throw out a low bid and get last pick, you pick last every round. Vice versa too (top bid, pick first every round). Can't imagine doing it any other way. Anybody else do this? I view snake drafts as like family league, low stakes stuff.
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Forgot to mention it's a blind bid. So not like an auction for spots. Get one shot. Some intentionally go low and try to draft well and make it up in free agency (also bidding if more than one person goes for a guy).
 
Fubar

Fubar

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,724
My league is based on last year's standings. 1st place last year (my wife, smh she made things unbearable for a bit there) gets to pick where she wants to go. If she wants 1st, she gets it. If she wants 8th, its hers. Whatever. 2nd place goes after her, and so on. I know for a fact the dude who got 2nd last year will either go last pick or second to last.

I prefer to go right in the middle of the round, so hopefully I get that.

We do snake draft though. It's what everyone prefers, and as commissioner I honestly dont care
 
Corran Horn

Corran Horn

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,613
I want Gordon but Im not paying a high price for him. If he is there in the 5th round? Sure... I rather fill up my roster with RBs though.
 
Smurf

Smurf

Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,582
now that he is back, I'm fading on all Browns WRs. Kind of sad tho, since Landry was a value ad his current ADP.
 
grang

grang

Member
Nov 13, 2017
10,066
I know it's a fat chance, but my main (7 year history, keeper, 10 team) league has unprecedentedly lost 3 members in one year. We are looking for anyone to take over a team, it's a competitive 50$ league with 3rd place getting money back, 2nd getting 100, and 1st getting 350. Can show teams / explain rules to anyone who is interested.
 
Dosia

Dosia

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
385
We just held our 12 teamer yesterday and I took the josh gordon leap of faith.

QB Russell Wilson, Sea QB
RB David Johnson, Ari RB
RB Jerick McKinnon, SF RB
WR Josh Gordon*, Cle WR
WR Brandin Cooks, LAR WR
TE Rob Gronkowski, NE TE
FLEX Lamar Miller, Hou RB
D/ST Saints D/ST D/ST
K Mason Crosby, GB K

Bench

Marquise Goodwin, SF WR
Corey Davis, Ten WR
Latavius Murray, Min RB
Sony Michel, NE RB
Robby Anderson, NYJ WR
George Kittle, SF TE
Austin Ekeler, LAC RB
 
Baked Pigeon

Baked Pigeon

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
7,087
Phoenix
Andokuky said:
I have the second pick in a big money league and I know the #1 guy is going Zeke. I'm torn between Bell and David Johnson at #2. They'll both get insane usage. They're both in contract years and looking to get big deals. I had Johnson in 2016 and he scored like 20 touchdowns.

I'm hesitant about Bell because he's been used a ton he last few years and I worry about him breaking down. Plus I know they have a new OC, and they have a ton of weapons in Pittsburgh. I'm hesitant on Johnson because they'll be starting a rookie QB once Bradford inevitably gets hurt, and their offensive line is pretty poor. But bummish QB and OL play hasn't stopped him in the past.

I don't believe Gurley will repeat some of his monster numbers, especially the receiving touchdowns, so it's between these two. What would you guys do?
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I would go Johnson. Dude has an absolutely unbelievable work ethic so you know he is in shape and ready for the season from a health standpoint. He is also playing with a huge chip on his shoulder since he feels like most people have forgotten about him. As you mentioned, he is also going to be playing hard this year so he can get a contract extension during the season. The kicker is he did not put any mileage on his body last year since he didn't play, and that goes a long ways with a running back. His injury was his wrist which is completely healed, so its not like he is coming back from a knee injury or something. I would not sleep on Johnson this year.
 

Baz

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
669
St. Helens
The keepers are in, apparently. Draft is on Sunday at 8PM. I've got a children's 2nd birthday at 2:30 and after an hour or so there I'm heading into the city to celebrate a friends 30th. Hopefully I can still participate in my draft love, albeit intoxicated and getting funny looks from others in the pub.

Can't wait to sort out my predraft rankings this week though. I love it!

If anyone feels like sharing theirs PM me. :D
 

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I was in three last year including the one I commission, dropped to two this year. Then my buddy asks me to co-own a team with him in another money league, hell yeah I'm in. Then I get the message about the ResetEra leagues.... Bet your ass I'm in there too. I thought I was stressin' last year, this is gonna be nuts lol.
 
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